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you believe life just happened, how logical is that? To believe all this came from time+matter+chance............and the kicker is you can't even show proof of it happening! Where is the logic?

abiogenesis is about as believable as Genesis........admit it.

2007-06-03 16:09:51 · 22 answers · asked by The Angry Stick Man 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

For those who claim abiogenesis is logical..........you are not being logical, you are believing what you want to, just like a Theist.


And ZC i didn't thumbs down on your ?...........but thanks for jumping to conclusions and believing what you want to.

2007-06-03 16:24:10 · update #1

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The rationailty kicks in when one believes only as strongly as the evidence demonstrates. Let's start with a belief in a god. What is a god? Can we even define what it is so that we can start seeing if there's any evidence for it?
If we can define it, is it a concept that's falsifiable? In other words, if there weren't a god could we possibly prove it? The answer seems to be no. If there were no way to prove it wrong even if it were wrong then there is no conceivable way to prove that it exists. So all that would be left is mere opinion and, although one could have an opinion about it one would not rationally have faith- a claim to know that it really, really does exist.
From all the evidence I've seen thus far, I see no evidence for a god (however it's defined.)
As for abiogenesis, it's not an extraordinary claim. It makes sense, there's some experimental support for it. None of the theories of how it happened are supported enough that I can say with great probability that that's exactly how it happened. but since, from the evidence thus far, it could have happened and there's some evidence that it did, I find it much more likely than not.
Rationally, inventing a magical being who did it in magical ways for unknown reasons isn't rational.

2007-06-03 16:18:38 · answer #1 · answered by thatguyjoe 5 · 3 1

In the here and now, the natural world appears to us as a seamless web of cause and effect. For everything that we observe, we can generally find a natural cause behind it. For those things that we don't understand, we expect that eventually a cause will be found. We have lots of historical precedent for this. And so far, no observable event has been found to originate from any supernatural impetus.

It seems logical to many of us, therefore, to extrapolate this chain of cause and effect back indefinitely, rather than to assume that at some given point the chain is broken and some supernatural agency has intruded. So I expect that the origin of life, like everything we can currently observe in nature, had a natural cause.

In other words, I think it's turtles all the way down. If you claim the nth turtle is riding on an elephant, I have to ask, what is the elephant standing on, and, how do you know it's an elephant?

2007-06-03 17:42:33 · answer #2 · answered by injanier 7 · 0 0

If you have no idea how life happened, how logical is the thought that some god must have gone and done it?

There is nothing wrong with saying the truth....I don't know, yet.

Genesis is not believable. If there are successful experiments that can show reproducibly abiogenesis, I may look into that.

It is only rational.

2007-06-03 16:23:46 · answer #3 · answered by CC 7 · 0 0

Atheism is lack of belief in gods. It, per se, does not offer any theories on the why or where of anthing. However, when an atheist is confronted with a situation he/she does not understand he/she will not spout "God did it," so is more inclined to try and think the problem through and find the real answer.

2007-06-04 00:37:00 · answer #4 · answered by Benji 6 · 0 0

Everything about atheism is rational and logical...

Abiogenesis is not yet completely understood but it is a logical and reasonable concept worthy of investigation... Genesis is quite the opposite. admit it.

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2007-06-03 16:19:05 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

And believing that a superhuman being created us out of dust is logical?
If it is impossible for something to come from nothing,where did god get the dust from?It couldn't have just appeared out of nothing

2007-06-03 16:18:48 · answer #6 · answered by rosbif 6 · 3 1

not over night but it is what can happen after atheism that matters . the god game is just a stumbling block to higher thought for many. some atheists are also sometimes existencialist ,natuaralists , moralists,humanists,scholars,
teachers , political planners, scientists , humorists, servants,
writers , and phycisians. just to name a few .

2007-06-03 16:18:57 · answer #7 · answered by dogpatch USA 7 · 2 1

First of all sport, it's not up to the questioner to prove the fallacy of the propositioner... it's the other way around...

Secondly, atheists aren't given to 'belief'...

"Just the facts, ma'am, just the facts..."

2007-06-03 16:19:29 · answer #8 · answered by BobAndrews 5 · 1 0

Actually abiogenesis is quite logical and reasonable

Genesis is ridiculous

2007-06-03 16:18:12 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 6 2

Admit that you THINK abiogenesis is about as believable as Genesis? I freely admit that.

Oh look, the person who asked the question "thumbs downed" my answer about 5 seconds after it posted. Not interested in any answers besides those that validate your views, aye?

2007-06-03 16:14:58 · answer #10 · answered by ZER0 C00L ••AM••VT•• 7 · 7 4

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