Do you believe in Eretz Israel?

Question

Eretz Israel according to the ancient boundries of the Hebrews including Lebanon Syria Jordan Iraq and part of KSA.

Answer 1

The definition of Eretz Yisrael you describe is based on God's promise to give all the land between the Nile and Euphrates to Abraham's descendants. Ishmael was a descendant, as well as Yitzhak.

God's words to Moses when He let him see the Promised Land but not enter it, and Joshua's attitude to the two-and-a half tribes who wanted to settle east of the Jordan, show conclusively that the earlier promise DID NOT apply to the Jews only.

The Israeli flag with its two blue lines representing the two rivers, and the map of your "Eretz Yisrael" which hangs in the Knesset, show the erroneous and deeply provocative aims of hyper-Zionism.

Answer 2

I totally agree with the Person above me. He actually understands the atrocities that Israel has committed. Most of those horrible events happened while Sharon was in charge. Look at him now, he's neither death or alive, just rotten like a vegetable. Palestine is a land belonging to the Palestinians. Since, the late 1940s, the Israelis basically invaded the land of the Palestinians. If the Israelis peace, they could have achieved it without building walls and a whole nation. Now, they have occupied the whole land, separated Gaza(part of Palestine) from the Rest of the nation, they built thousands of road blocks which only the Israeli Jews can get across. So why are the Palestinians rebelling against the Israelis? Because it was their own land to start with, and now they are slaves within the land. Imagine being trapped in your own neighborhood, with dirty water, no access to any highways etc. Israel has occupied Palestine, and America is funding this occupation of Israel. It is disgusting what the Israelis are doing really. Also, if one is sensible, this should not be a battle of religions. There are Palestinian Jews, Christians, Armenians, Muslims etc, before the British Forces occupied the land for Israelis. Before this, all religions were living in peace, which is why you see even to this day, Jewish Rabbis on protests with Palestinian Flags. He is the Massacre of the Lebanese and Palestinians where Israelis killed thousands of innocent civilians:

Answer 3

Yes the biblical boundaries went from about the Suez (The Egypt stream referred to in the Tanakh is about there) until the Euphrates. The closest that Israelites have come to realizing that was under King David's reign, who conquered much of that area, but really kept it as vassal states. Interesting note: the Balfour declaration called for the creation of a Jewish homeland on both sides of the river Jordan.
That all being said, Israel and Israelis have no military ambition to incorporate any of that land into the present day country. As proof I point to Israel returning the Sinai peninsula (a part of the biblical entity) in exchange for peace.

EDIT: Aha, Mark my friend, you've given yourself away. The people who lived along the west coast were actually Philistines and not Palestinians. I can see why you would confuse the two, as they are the actual source of the word, after the Romans changed the name from Judea. If the Palestinians are in fact descended from them as you claim, then Palestinians are not only not Arabians, they aren't even semites. The Philistines were a Minoan/Greek sea-people, who first attempted to conquer Egypt and in failure moved up the coast to Israel. Their arrival more or less coincides with the Hebrew arrival in Israel. Basically, not the forefathers of the Palestinians. Also, King David did conquer them and create a vassal state. Also also, Hebrews maintained control over the land for well over 80 years; only the united kingdom reigned for that short a period. Hebrew control of the area lasted more than 500 years in fact, and another 500 years after the return from Babylon.

Answer 4

No. This is a political issue -- not religious.

P.S. Do you believe in eretz USA? How about eretz Germany, or eretz Italy?
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Answer 5

Old ancient Jewish kingdoms last only 80 years and there were no boundaries in to days term. The people of the Middle East up to Yeaman all loved king David God Bless" his sole" and it was God willing most pay tax and gifts for him and called on him if they were attacked. The old Palestinian people also lived in their city-states on the west coast and they were never part of the old ancient Jewish Kingdoms.

Answer 6

Yes

Answer 7

I didn't know that it included territory in all of those lands (read: that's news to me)...Anyhow, I am content with the land that we have now (i.e., Israel proper, not the settlements). I think most Israelis are content too with Eretz Yisrael as it is.

Answer 8

In a perfect world; yeah, that would be great. As it stands, I'm more than satisfied with present-day Israel.

Answer 9

No.
I believe that it's good Jews come to Israel since it is the promised land (and so forth... we were here bla bla bla)
but to have Syria- --- I don't think G-d wants us to do that. yes, having JRS and having a holy Temple inside it, but I don't care that the Arabs will have the west side.

Answer 10

Yes. Man did not make the boundaries of Israel and man has NO RIGHT MOVING THE BOUNDRY LINES!!!!!