And, apart from that, He Himself said He laid down His life & nobody took it form Him; including the Jews.
2007-06-02 16:11:17 · 16 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
This line of reasoning didn't stop Christians down the centuries from celebrating the death of Jesus as a sacrifice for their sins and at the same time going out and carrying out pogroms against Jews whom they blamed for it.
The historical evidence suggests that it was the Romans who really wanted Jesus apprehended. The Jewish authorities probably didn't give him a trial (the Synoptic Gospels suggest they did, but Jesus' followers didn't have access to what went on behind the closed doors at the High Priest's home, and so no serious historian takes the Gospels at face value at this point). If Jesus had been wanted on a charge by the Jewish authorities, they would have arrested him and then got on with Passover. That they handed Jesus over to the Romans almost immediately shows that it was the Romans who wanted him, and the Jewish authorities were trying to avert a worse disaster in which Roman troops are sent in to get him and many more die.
The church had good reason to shift blame away from the Romans as much as possible: it was bad PR to say "We are followers of a man the Romans executed for a charge of sedition", and so suggesting that the Romans had nothing against him was a natural move, but once again, one that obscures the likely historical realities.
2007-06-02 16:33:05 · answer #1 · answered by jamesfrankmcgrath 4 · 2⤊ 2⤋
Professing Christ is not required for the purpose of attributing guilt.
The Jews and the Romans were both directly complicit in killing Christ, but all the rest of sinful humanity ... past, present, future ... was indirectly involved.
In addition to being God, Jesus is also a perfect and sinless man, so under God's most fundamental law, the law of sin and death, which predates all of the others, no one had the power or the authority to take his life.
In fact, Jesus was not liable to die, at all.
Jesus permitted himself to be put to death at the hands of Satan and his minions, because he knew that permitting them to do so would result in their ultimate destruction, and in the salvation of mankind.
Jesus' heroism and dedication, as one of us, and for our benefit, served to atone ... to appease the righteous anger of his Father, due to our sins ... which is what allows us to enjoy God's mercy and grace today, instead of the wrath that was experienced by those who lived during old testament times.
That's why the day Jesus died on the cross is properly called "Good" Friday ... no matter who actually hammered the nails.
2007-06-02 17:36:27 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I agree with you. Aside from that, it was prophecy, and had to happen, Jesus knew this. Yes, the sins of the world he took upon himself, the reason he made the choice to die for us, so yes, our sins are why he died. A couple of priests and a handful of soldiers acted, but does not reflect on the entire people as a whole. Just as today there are some who hate Jesus, back then there were also some who hated him. When you think about it, for the same reasons, pride, greed and power. It does not reflect on either group of people as a whole. It is caused by mankind as a whole with Satan as the tempter.
Ahmad, you don't understand the scripture you quote.
2007-06-02 17:40:20 · answer #3 · answered by Gardener for God(dmd) 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
I agree... But what I don't get is why Christians say that the Jews killed him. The Romans did the crucifying NOT the JEWS. Jesus knew what was going to happen and went willingly.
2007-06-02 16:41:07 · answer #4 · answered by Lil'witch 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Ok folks. We did not kill Christ because of our sins. He still had his free agency and chose to take on the sins of the world. I know it sounds really neat to put a twist on the old story, but we did not kill him and will not be punished for the sins of those who did.
2007-06-02 16:20:50 · answer #5 · answered by rndyh77 6 · 1⤊ 2⤋
I think most Christians realize this, though some don't. Also, pseudo-christian cultists who claim to be christians (aryan churches for example) also cause confusion about this. But agree I with you completely.
2007-06-02 16:16:01 · answer #6 · answered by Rossonero NorCal SFECU 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Yes. I believe they were the vehicle, but all of us killed Christ because of our sins.
2007-06-02 16:17:47 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
Fuzzy logic. Jesus died for EVERYONE'S sins not just those who "profess" him. And, the Jews made the case legally and the Romans executed him. He may have willingly gone through it, but there were people who did the deed and that is not to be denied.
2007-06-02 16:16:31 · answer #8 · answered by Linda R 7 · 2⤊ 3⤋
So very right!!! Some day the Jewish People will be respected as they should be, (not because they are great but because G_D chose them to be HIS special possession)
2007-06-02 16:49:54 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋
He didnt say that he laid his life WILLINGLY for mans sins. Its the pastor who says so.for in Matthew 27:46- "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli,Eli, lama sabachtani?(my God, my God , why hast thou forsaken me?)'"
Imagine Jesus dying willingly but crying on the cross.
That too him being God himself(u say that) & needing help
2007-06-02 16:30:06 · answer #10 · answered by Ahmad 2 · 0⤊ 2⤋