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A great deal of answers posted here (pertaining to Jehovah's Witnesses) have to deal with the so called misrepresentation of the apocalyspe. There have been wrong expectations I agree but it can't be labeled false prophecy.Jonah the prophet proclaimed judgement against Nin′e·veh was he labeled a false prophet? According to the bible the answer would be no. He was doing what he was told at the time. God changed his mind due to the repentance of the people.

Many of the so called "christians" today accuse Witnesses of many things but do they not remember that in your developing countries prior to modern day Witnesses that many used the bible keep people in bondage. You may say, "not my church."Whether or not it's your church it is still the people of your faith (Catholic, Pentacostal, Baptists...)So what does that make your faith? Your faith is guilty of far worse things than that of Jehovah's Witnesses but yet you condemn the teaching and practices of them? Should you be concerned

2007-06-02 06:40:52 · 14 answers · asked by shakyshahn2 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

No one is answering the question. How can you point the finger or as Matthew 6:42 says,"How can you say to your brother, ‘Brother, allow me to extract the straw that is in your eye,’ while you yourself are not looking at the rafter in that eye of yours? Hypocrite! First extract the rafter from your own eye, and then you will see clearly how to extract the straw that is in your brother’s eye."

2007-06-02 08:54:36 · update #1

People answer the question about the Witnesses,what about yourselves?Aren't many faiths guilty of many things. Other than a mistake in time?What about killing?
Christendom's clergy are more reprehensible in shedding blood than other religious leaders.Because in addition to taking God’s name upon themselves,they have taken Christ’s too. They thereby obligated themselves to follow the teachings of Jesus.(John 15:10-14)But they have not followed those teachings, thus bringing great reproach upon both God and Christ. The responsibility for bloodshed by the clergy has been both direct,in the Crusades,other religious
wars,inquisitions,and persecutions, and indirect,in condoning wars in which members of the churches killed their fellowman in other lands.In false religion there is found the blood of prophets, and of holy ones,and of all those who have been slaughtered on the earth.(Revelation18:24)Since the worst bloodshed has arisen in Christendom the guilt of the clergy is the greatest.

2007-06-04 14:35:41 · update #2

14 answers

Hypocrisy.

http://watchtower.org/e/pr/index.htm?article=article_04.htm

2007-06-02 06:59:55 · answer #1 · answered by achtung_heiss 7 · 2 3

Amen to what Joyfilled said.

In fact, when I first started researching the wrongness of JWs, I was Catholic. Through my very extensive research, not only did I find the JWs incorrect, but I also found myself wrong as Catholic.

Now that I am a Bible believing Christian, there is NO flaw. The Bible is the Word of God and there is no way for it to be flawed.

However, as taught several times throughout scripture, it is very possible to have eyes and yet not see....and ears that do not hear. (See examples of this in my profile.) This is because satan tries to blind everyone from the light of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. 2 Cor 4:4

2007-06-04 07:15:53 · answer #2 · answered by ~♥Anna♥~ 5 · 6 1

temper temper Siting right here & examining this load of rubbish which contain your one up guy deliver occurring i'm getting the different feeling which you're disrespecting the recognize the bible & arguing like a team of petulant infants over who's stable or incorrect even nevertheless it has a definite volume of entertainment fee that's getting tedious to declare the least you all would huff as much as you like on the top of the day you are able to a minimum of agree that Jesus and our lord god does exist Why do you no longer basically pray to Jesus for each others souls & flow approximately your quite a few procedures & galvanize some new flock contributors (sheep) consistent with threat because of the fact you're all as obdurate as one yet another I believe Noiamnot who has hit the nail on the top the full element is a brilliant wheeze LOL heavily god bless you all

2016-10-09 07:53:30 · answer #3 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Because JW's are the ones claiming to be God's chosen organization. Jonah was proclaiming judgement if Nineveh didn't repent, which they did. His purpose for going there was to get them to repent, so it didn't mean that judgement was going to happen regardless of what they did. What other sects like catholics did wrong is irrelevant to whether JW's are right. Another person's wrong does not make your wrong right. If you really followed the bible, you wouldn't be listening to everything a man made sect like JWs is telling you.

2007-06-04 17:03:35 · answer #4 · answered by Joe S 3 · 1 0

Dear Shakyshahn,

I am one who points out that the Watchtower Witnesses are clearly FALSE prophets based on Deuteronomy 18:20-22. The specific dates prophesied for Armageddon came and went without incident so I know that I do not need to listen to what JWs say about the Bible.

In church yesterday (I now attend a Bible church) our Gospel lesson was from Mark 2:1-12 - Jesus Forgives and Heals a Paralytic. As I read along in my NKJV it was very clear that Jesus is God. The scribes say "Who can forgive sins but God alone?" They were telling the Truth and Jesus did not deny it.

Jesus told the paralytic "... arise, take up your bed ..." and the paralytic did just that. Now if Jesus were not God then the paralytic would not have been able to get up off his bed and we wouldn't be having this conversation. We would still be dead in our sins.

There is the difference.
What Jesus said happened.
What the JWs said did NOT happen.

At home I looked at Mark 2 in the NWT which was given to me by a JW relative 10 years ago. I saw that I had underlined "Who can forgive sins except one, God?"

Below it I had written this note -
Only God can forgive sins.
Jesus can forgive sins..
Jesus is God on earth.

It seems to me that you are suggesting that all have sinned and everybody should simply fall in line with the "best" of man-made religions?

There is no salvation in man-made religions no matter how many good works anybody does. Salvation comes only from being in a right relationship with God.

My faith is firmly planted on Jesus Christ and Him crucified. It is not planted on a church. In fact I used to belong to the United Church of Christ but I left because they are getting too far away from the Bible.

Edit: My major in college was Accounting. I was planning to become a CPA but after graduation I worked for several years as an internal auditor for a bank holding company. Now lots of people think that auditors go looking to find mistakes but that is not true. People do make mistakes and in an audit we would analyze the cost consequences of those mistakes.

On an audit of the Accounts Payable dept. I was looking at all payments during the month of June. There was one payment of $10,000 to our CPA firm. And then another and then a third payment for the same amount. I wondered why there were 3 identical payments in the same month and felt it was something I needed to look into. Was the May payment late, the June payment on time and the July payment early? What was the story?

It turned out that we paid one bill for $10,000 three times! For some that might be peanuts so to speak but if you project those numbers out over a whole year then there are problems.

On another audit I was looking at Paid Off Loans in our Residential Real Estate dept. It might not seem like a big deal to pay off a loan but there was one that shocked me.
It turns out that an extremely disgruntled customer paid their loan off after receiving a tax bill for more than $2 MILLION on a house worth $245,000.

It turned out when I investigated that we had summer hire inputing the tax info and there was no review to make sure the correct amounts were entered into the system. I did not set out looking for mistakes but when I found them I had to make some recommendations. Residential Real Estate was our reason to be but if we made such mistakes and discouraged people to the point that they no longer wanted to do business with us, it affected our bottom line.

Getting back to the False prophecy. That is material. I can't call it a mistake as many JWs do.

For His glory,
JOYfilled

2007-06-04 06:36:08 · answer #5 · answered by JOYfilled - Romans 8:28 7 · 8 1

Jesus was hated and said we would be hated also. so we expect it. people know nothing about us and rather no know the truth about Jehovah Witnesses. we are your next door neighbor and work and pay bills just like anyone else. we as Jehovah Witnesses are a worldwide brother and sisterhood and live in 236 lands. we follow the bible and do what Jesus Christ commanded us to do at Matthew 28 verse 19 and 20. we worship Jehovah God. if anyone wants to learn more about us www.watchtower.org. even if I was not a Jehovah Witness, I would never take of blood. to many families have died of it. a very close friend had an operation. he had a triple bypass and did not get any blood and he is doing great.

2007-06-02 06:58:37 · answer #6 · answered by lover of Jehovah and Jesus 7 · 2 4

The first question that you have to ask before the one you asked at the top is "Is it a false accusation of the JW's?" When you examine the evidence, they did make false prophecies and then cover them up by changing the details. That is false prophecy and fraud rolled up into one.

While no church is perfect, those that make false prophecies have stepped over the line.

Don't put Jonah and the JW's on the same plane. There is so much different between them that it is not funny. "Pastor Russell" said in several of his false prophecies that this was not his opinion - that it was the word of God that .... and that it could not fail.

2007-06-03 09:25:14 · answer #7 · answered by Buzz s 6 · 5 2

JOYfilled, Anna and Carol D have given wonderful answers, so there's little I can add.

But I will say this: it's amazing that you admit at the beginning of your rant that JWs have made false prophesies, yet you don't love God enough to READ AND FOLLOW HIS COMMAND to not follow a false prophet! Instead, JWs make excuses to cover up -- such as "we're not really prophets, although we call the WBTS a prophet of the Ezekiel class."

You see, this has NOTHING to do with the rest of "Christendom," as you condescendingly call us -- but it has EVERYTHING to do with how disobedient to God's word JWs have become, and how arrogantly they lie to cover the fact that they follow a false prophet.

2007-06-04 07:56:55 · answer #8 · answered by Suzanne: YPA 7 · 4 1

Jonah: Told by God to preach destruction, Jonah preached, God saw change in people's lives, God did not bring destruction on repentant people. Jonah got mad.
JW's: God told us "You don't know when it's coming, but be ready", JW preached a year, not once but SEVERAL times, year came and went no destruction, JW's changed year for destruction, year came and went, no destruction, God gets made for false prophecy.

So, you want to compare false prophecy with misuse of scripture. That's apples and oranges. But ok. JW's preach false prophecy (all over the "free world" and then developing countries) use scare tactics, brain washing, psycological manipulations, deceptive practices, double standards to "FREE" enslaved people in modern developing countries. Then they are "enslaved" to the "SOCIETY". sounds reasonable to me NOT!!!!!
True, many religions have held their parishioners in a type of bondage with their interpretations of scriptures and doctrines, creeds, dogma etc. BUT leaving one enslavement for another is still ENSLAVEMENT!!!
Now, before you start thumbs down me, let me tell you that I have first hand experience of the types of methodology used by JW's as I was a member from age 2, got baptised at 10 (in 1974 because the end was coming in 1976), and ESCAPED in 1996.

Now, if you JW"s want to thumb me down, that's fine as it tell me you cannot face the truth when it stares you in the eyes. You have allows the society to become your God and Savior. DO RESEARCH independently of the society and you will see. Oh, yeah that's right, you're not suppose to research outside of the society or you become labeled as an apostate, sounds like enslavement to me....

My current faith has NEVER enslaved anyone, except becoming "slaves" for God. I am no more concerned with my faith as you seem to be of placing JW's on a pedestal. Shame on you

2007-06-04 07:54:55 · answer #9 · answered by Carol D 5 · 3 1

The reason Witnesses are called false prophets is because the teachings of the Watch Tower Society are wrong. In particular you pointed out the apocalypse – Armageddon.

The bible does warn of this great battle, but the Watch Tower approach is all wrong. They try to predict WHEN Armageddon is going to come, which is completely against scripture. WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT WHEN CHRIST IS COMING. PERIOD. "But of that day and hour no one knows, neither the angels of heaven, nor the Son, 22 but the Father alone.” Matthew 24: 36.

Only God knows the hour when Christ will come. We have no business trying to predict this (as the Watch Tower has done repeatedly). Our job is to focus on our relationship with God. Trying to predict Armageddon is like trying to shortcut God.

Additionally, how do you know you’ll even see Armageddon? What if you die in a car crash tomorrow? What if you get cancer down the road? The Watch Tower constantly preaches “Armageddon Armageddon Armageddon…”, but they never tell their members they have to have faith to begin with because they might NEVER SEE Armageddon. See my point?

God bless and take care.

2007-06-02 07:03:35 · answer #10 · answered by Danny H 6 · 6 3

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