Does God exist?
AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION.
An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem science has with God, The Almighty.
He asks one of his new students to stand and .....
Prof: So you believe in God?
Student: Absolutely, sir.
Prof: Is God good?
Student: Sure.
Prof: Is God all-powerful?
Student: Yes.
Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn't. How is this God good then? Hmm?
(Student is silent.)
Prof: You can't answer, can you? Let's start again, young fellow. Is God good?
Student: Yes.
Prof: Is Satan good?
Student: No.
Prof: Where does Satan come from?
Student: From...God...
Prof: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?
Student: Yes.
Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything. Correct?
Student: Yes.
Prof: So who created evil?
Student does not answer.
Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they?
Student: Yes, sir.
Prof: So, who created them?
Student has no answer.
Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son...Have you ever seen God?
Student: No, sir.
Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God?
Student: No, sir.
Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God? Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter?
Student: No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.
Prof: Yet you still believe in Him?
Student: Yes.
Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?
Student: Nothing. I only have my faith.
Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has.
Student: Professor, is there such a thing as heat ?
Prof: Yes.
Student: And is there such a thing as cold?
Prof: Yes.
Student: No sir. There isn't.
(The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.)
Student: Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don't have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold.
Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.
(There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.)
Student: What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?
Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?
Student: You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light.... But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? In reality, darkness isn't. If it were you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?
Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man?
Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.
Prof: Flawed? Can you explain how?
Student: Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure.
Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one.
To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it.
Now tell me, Professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved
from a monkey?
Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.
Student: Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?
(The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going.)
Student: Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher? (The class is in uproar.)
Student: Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor's brain?
(The class breaks out into laughter.)
Student: Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable
protocol, science says that you have no brain, sir.
With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?
(The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable.)
Prof: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.
Student: That is it sir... The link between man & god is FAITH.
That is all that keeps things moving & alive.
Does God exist?
AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION.
An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem science has with God, The Almighty.
He asks one of his new students to stand and .....
Prof: So you believe in God?
Student: Absolutely, sir.
Prof: Is God good?
Student: Sure.
Prof: Is God all-powerful?
Student: Yes.
Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn't. How is this God good then? Hmm?
(Student is silent.)
Prof: You can't answer, can you? Let's start again, young fellow. Is God good?
Student: Yes.
Prof: Is Satan good?
Student: No.
Prof: Where does Satan come from?
Student: From...God...
Prof: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?
Student: Yes.
Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything. Correct?
Student: Yes.
Prof: So who created evil?
Student does not answer.
Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they?
Student: Yes, sir.
Prof: So, who created them?
Student has no answer.
Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son...Have you ever seen God?
Student: No, sir.
Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God?
Student: No, sir.
Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God? Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter?
Student: No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.
Prof: Yet you still believe in Him?
Student: Yes.
Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?
Student: Nothing. I only have my faith.
Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has.
Student: Professor, is there such a thing as heat ?
Prof: Yes.
Student: And is there such a thing as cold?
Prof: Yes.
Student: No sir. There isn't.
(The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.)
Student: Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don't have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold.
Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.
(There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.)
Student: What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?
Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?
Student: You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light.... But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? In reality, darkness isn't. If it were you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?
Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man?
Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.
Prof: Flawed? Can you explain how?
Student: Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure.
Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one.
To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it.
Now tell me, Professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved
from a monkey?
Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.
Student: Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?
(The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going.)
Student: Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher? (The class is in uproar.)
Student: Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor's brain?
(The class breaks out into laughter.)
Student: Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable
protocol, science says that you have no brain, sir.
With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?
(The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable.)
Prof: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.
Student: That is it sir... The link between man & god is FAITH.
That is all that keeps things moving & alive.
2007-06-01 15:09:56 · 35 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
You posted this long urban legend a few questions ago. Give it up, it's as historically false as its arguments are rationally weak.
2007-06-01 15:17:10 · answer #1 · answered by thatguyjoe 5 · 7⤊ 0⤋
Apparently this professor has never heard of an MRI. He could go get a picture taken of his brain and give it to the student. In fact, he could invite the student to come along and watch the MRI in progress.
And perhaps the student has never seen the fossil record. And perhaps the professor has NO clue what evolution really is, considering he would have had a very different response to the question of whether or not it's been "observed" if he DID in fact have a clue.
This whole thing is silly, and as another user pointed out, just as much "proof" of the Judeo-Christian deity as it is for Quetzalcoatl, Zeus, Freya, Ninsun, Woden, Ra, Dionysus, Mithra, Zoroaster, Krishna, etc.
2007-06-01 15:18:13 · answer #2 · answered by ZER0 C00L ••AM••VT•• 7 · 8⤊ 1⤋
The only thing that I can say is, So god is absent? You can't prove he isn't. And no professor would ever say that we evolved from monkeys! That is not what happened and they would never teach that. As to the professors brain, we see the affects of that brain. The affects are measurable. As to observing evolution, well we do have the fossil record. And the absences of heat is not cold. Cold can be measured, it can be created (unlike darkness) So that is false that cold is the absence of heat. What does god have? So once again, You haven't proved anything. Go have a cookie.
2007-06-01 15:18:10 · answer #3 · answered by punch 7 · 4⤊ 1⤋
rofl. Meaningless. The professor was a fool who let himself be put on the spot by a student when he should have known better and had proper answers ready.
You see, heat can be called the absence of cold. Light can be called the absence of dark.
Its not that hard to throw those things back in the students face, but the professor didn't pick up on it.
The student is a fool. The professor is as well.
2007-06-01 15:17:47 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 1⤋
This reminds me of the email that was going around years ago about the student who went up against a teacher in biology class and the teacher said if your God exists, pray to him and ask him to prevent this piece of chalk I'm about to drop from hitting the ground.
The chalk rolled down the teachers sleeve and the teacher converted on the spot.
It's nothing more than a campfire story.
2007-06-01 15:24:43 · answer #5 · answered by Adam G 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I am a Christian.
That argument is a bit one sideded..... I mean at first, the student couldn't answer the proffesers and then the proffeser did the same for the student. But the truth is, if either of them had any knowledge of what theey believed in, and for the professer science, then they would have been able to give better answers to the questions proposed, seems to me that neither at the time were very smart of what the trusted.
2007-06-01 15:18:04 · answer #6 · answered by Hand in Hand 1 · 4⤊ 0⤋
Wow, that's a lot of nonsense. BTW, it's an old argument and one of the more lame ones.
First, no science professor would be that ignorant about physics. Second, the argument is still making the claim, though indirectly, that wishful thinking is a good reason to believe a god exists. Sorry, but you don't make the case. There is real evidence of how heat works. Evolution has been observed first hand, including macro-evolution. There is also ample evidence of the professor's brain.
There is also ample evidence in all of the world's religions that they are all man-made. All "holy" texts have human authors and there is no real evidence of anything "divine" about them.
On the other hand, the word "god" has a vague definition. If you press a religious person about what, exactly this thing called a god is that they believe exists, they can't really give you a straight answer. They'll either cite characteristics that are untestable, like "creator of the universe" or "perfect", or they will use other terms that also have no real defintion, like "spirit".
So, your cute story is really just crap. I can see how you think it makes a salient point, but it really fails to do so.
2007-06-01 15:12:34 · answer #7 · answered by nondescript 7 · 15⤊ 3⤋
As though any self-respecting science professor would say his lectures should be taken on faith lol
It's not faith that gets a rocket into space. It is complex mathematical equations and science. It's not faith that allows doctors to perform complex surgeries. It's a scientific knowledge of the body and how it works.
This was a lame and tired comparison of faith and science.
2007-06-01 15:31:00 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
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2016-11-03 09:10:12 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Perhaps this was written before things such as anatomy, cat scans and MRI's? At any rate, the fact that the professor is able to move, speak and think is evidence enough. No faith involved.
2007-06-01 15:17:26 · answer #10 · answered by Julia Sugarbaker 7 · 4⤊ 0⤋
Not funny, not amusing, not cute.
A "story" like this can impress only stupid and brainwashed religious fanatics, who are screaming now: "Wow, this student showed him!"
Here's a much shorter one for you:
If God is all powerful, can he create a stone so heavy that even he cannot lift it? Yes? Than how is he all powerful, if he cannot lift it? No? Then how is he all powerful at all?
Did I prove anything? Of course not. It's just a stupid way to look at this, but at least it's cute.
You want believe in God, be my guest, just leave me alone with this nonsense.
2007-06-01 15:26:57 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 1⤋