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Lets say I worship the Sun God, and I take a pile of kindling and wood, and the symbol of my religion (A giant magnifying glass, the Sun helps me to see, the magnifying glass helps me to see better) And pray while pointing the symbol at the pile of wood and kindling.

At the same time you choose the god or goddess of your choice and the symbol of your choice and point it at an identical pile.

Who's god will set their pile on fire first?

2007-06-01 10:22:44 · 12 answers · asked by Vultureman 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Remember the rules say hold your symbol in front of the fire.

As opposed to lighting it with a match.

2007-06-01 10:27:31 · update #1

And for the guy who posted the story about Baal, fine lets try it, I still think i win.

2007-06-01 10:31:38 · update #2

12 answers

Lets pound our chests and shake our d!cks! I want to see some special effects! Make your god shoot pillars of fire from the ground right before my eyes. I bet Jasom's god could do better than that! Now, this is what spirituality is ALL about!

2007-06-01 10:37:21 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

I choose science. not a god but I will get the fire started faster... I won't cheat and use matches or a lighter or even flint and steel.. Ready...

Needed

2 D cell batteries
1 piece of steel wool about 3 inches by 7 inches when stretched out (the size of a Brillo Pad (no soap) when compacted)


Directions...
Stretch out steel wool, Place 2 D cell batteries one on top of the other like they would be in a flashlight.... Place on top of one end of steel wool... pull other end up over the top of batteries and gently rub... Steel wool will ignite quickly place under kindling (be sure to move batteries away from heat at this time... Personal experience they can overheat and melt bubble burst ) , when going well add tender.. then fuel..

Science wins :) I am cooking my Oscar Mayer wienies on a stick while u all are still praying for a deity to save you ...

2007-06-01 17:35:49 · answer #2 · answered by Diane (PFLAG) 7 · 0 1

A basic tenet of Judaism is that there is only one power in the world: God. There is no devil or other power competing with Him for control of the universe. The impure spirituality of idolatry was placed in the world by God to enable people to make the ultimate choice of living with or ignoring God. In the ancient world the attraction to idolatry was real and very powerful. This may be hard to fathom, because today we don't have the same drive for spirituality (I will explain why this is so later). Much of the Jewish people's drive to worship idols came out of a misguided desire to "enhance" their spiritual experience by incorporating Judaism and paganism. On a practical level it means that they were still keeping kosher and observing other Jewish laws, but they wanted "to have their cake and eat it too" -- they wanted both God and the spiritual high of idolatry.

The prophet of note at this time is Elijah. During this period of the divided monarchy, the primary function of the major prophets is to get the Jews of both Judah and Israel to turn away from their idolatry and evil ways and come back to God before it is too late. Elijah yearns to have the Jewish people repent. To this end, he decides to have a "show down" with the priests of Baal and to physically demonstrate the lie of idolatry to the Jewish people.

Elijah goes up north to Mount Carmel. Today the modern city of Haifa sits on the western edge of the Carmel Mountain Range. On the eastern side of the range is a place called Mukhraka, where there is a Carmelite monastery. In front of the monastery, there stands a statue of Elijah which commemorates the site where Elijah took on the priests of Baal.

Elijah wants the Jewish people to see that idolatry is nonsense and that there's only one God. So he challenges 450 priests of Baal to a contest. He proposes that each side offer a sacrificial bull to their deity and whichever deity sent a fire from heaven to consume the offering in full sight of the people would be accepted as the true God.

The priests of Baal really get into it. They've got their bull on the altar and they are beseeching Baal, shouting to the skies. But after nearly a full day of trying, nothing is happening and the animal carcass is only attracting flies. Meanwhile, Elijah mocks them:


"Shout louder! After all, he is a god, but he may be in conversation, he may be detained, or he may be on a journey, or perhaps he is asleep and will wake up." (1 Kings 18:27)

They shout louder, but still nothing. So they start slashing their heads with knives. It's an ancient form of worship, based on using blood to get the gods excited. Still nothing.

It's really embarrassing now, and all the Jewish people are watching.

Toward the end of the day, Elijah finally gives order for the preparation of his own offering. He has it doused with water three times so it would be even more difficult to set aflame. He even has a water-filled ditch built around the altar. He then says one short prayer:


"Lord God of Abraham, Isaac, and of Israel, let it be known this day that you are God in Israel, and that I am your servant, and that I have done all these things at your word. Hear me, O Lord, hear me, that this people may know that you are the Lord God, and that you have turned their heart back again." (1 Kings 18:36-37)

With that a fire comes down from the heaven consumes the sacrifice, the wood pile, the stones, the dust, and licks up the water in the ditch.

The gathered multitude responds in awe: "The Lord He is God, the Lord He is God!" (This is the very phrase we shout at the end of the Yom Kippur liturgy every year; this is where it comes from.)

2007-06-01 17:40:47 · answer #3 · answered by Furibundus 6 · 0 1

Been there, done that.

1 Kings 18:21-39

Then Elijah talked to them. "How long are you going to waver between two opinions?" he asked the people. "If the Lord is God,follow him! But if Baal is God, then follow him!"

Then Elijah spoke again. "I am the only prophet of the Lord who is left," he told them, "but Baal has 450 prophets. Now bring two young bulls. The prophets of Baal may choose whichever one they wish and cut it into pieces and lay it on the wood of their altar, but without putting any fire under the wood; and I will prepare the other young bull and lay it on the wood on the Lord's altar, with no fire under it. Then pray to your god, and I will pray to the Lord; and the god who answers by sending fire to light the wood is the true God!" And all the people agreed to this test.

Then Elijah turned to the prophets of Baal. "You first," he said, "for there are many of you; choose one of the bulls and prepare it and call to your god; but don't put any fire under the wood."

So they prepared one of the young bulls and placed it on the altar; and they called to Baal all morning, shouting, "O Baal, hear us!" But there was no reply of any kind. Then they began to dance around the altar. About noontime, Elijah began mocking them.

"You'll have to shout louder than that," he scoffed, "to catch the attention of your god! Perhaps he is talking to someone, or is out sitting on the toilet, or maybe he is away on a trip, or is asleep and needs to be wakened!"

So they shouted louder and, as was their custom, cut themselves with knives and swords until the blood gushed out. They raved all afternoon until the time of the evening sacrifice, but there was no reply, no voice, no answer.

Then Elijah called to the people, "Come over here."

And they all crowded around him as he repaired the altar of the Lord that had been torn down. He took twelve stones, one to represent each of the tribes of Israel, and used the stones to rebuild the Lord's altar. Then he dug a trench about three feet wide around the altar. He piled wood upon the altar and cut the young bull into pieces and laid the pieces on the wood.

"Fill four barrels with water," he said, "and pour the water over the carcass and the wood."

After they had done this he said, "Do it again." And they did.

"Now, do it once more!" And they did; and the water ran off the altar and filled the trench.

At the customary time for offering the evening sacrifice, Elijah walked up to the altar and prayed, "O Lord God of Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, prove today that you are the God of Israel and that I am your servant; prove that I have done all this at your command. O Lord, answer me! Answer me so these people will know that you are God and that you have brought them back to yourself."

Then, suddenly, fire flashed down from heaven and burned up the young bull, the wood, the stones, the dust, and even evaporated all the water in the ditch!

And when the people saw it, they fell to their faces upon the ground shouting, "Jehovah is God! Jehovah is God!"

2007-06-01 17:29:17 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

My napalm god wins.

Despite the claims that prayer helps people, there are those who will insist that God answers prayers only as he sees fit, and we are not to question that.

Makes it pretty hard to disprove it, doesn't it? The answer to a prayer is, "yes," "no," and "wait." If something happens one way or another, then the theist can claim that the prayer was answered. If nothing happens and doubt is in the air, then the theist need only say that God's answer is "wait." Convenient.

2007-06-01 17:24:50 · answer #5 · answered by Rev Kev 5 · 1 1

My match God will beat your magnifying glass God every time. Unless it's raining

2007-06-01 17:25:36 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

My fire god's symbol.... is fire. Therefor, I pray and the pile instantly goes up in flames because my fire god is great like that.

Ha.

2007-06-01 17:34:38 · answer #7 · answered by Fire Falcon 5 · 1 0

The god of the acetylene blow torch is mightier then your puny sun god. My god laughs at your tiny wisp of smoke.

Seriously my god has a sense of humor. I hope.

2007-06-01 17:27:40 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Ask Baal!

2007-06-01 17:28:47 · answer #9 · answered by Jen 4 · 2 1

I hate to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person, but where have you been? There is only one God, and I doubt seriously that He would want to play games with you.

2007-06-01 17:27:50 · answer #10 · answered by loufedalis 7 · 0 3

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