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do you think pinch collars are inhuman? explain why or why not. This is personal because i have a cockerspaniel that will not walk on a leash so we might have to use a pinch collar and i want to know some opinions on why or why not to use it. Thanks!

2007-06-01 09:33:29 · 21 answers · asked by Anonymous in Pets Dogs

she already has a harness and it makes it worse!

2007-06-01 09:48:04 · update #1

I have already tried a choke collar and still nothing, and i wont take her to classes because where i live i cant afford them.

2007-06-01 09:52:33 · update #2

21 answers

All pinch collars do is pinch the skin when they pull. Chock collars are horrible. Have you even seen a dog with a crushed Tr-ac (death sentience)

Pinch collars are safe and work great! They apply pinches around the whole neck while a chock collar only applies pressure to the front and if a dog pulls hard enough they will get hurt!!

NEVER pull on a pinch collar let the dog punish himself!! Good Luck I have used them for years!!!

Here is some info. I found:

The Scary Looking Prong Collar:

Also known as the "power steering for dogs" collar, the prong collar is extremely effective for large, thick-necked dogs, but not for the dog who is an arm yanker. Looking like some medieval torture device, the prong collar's method of operation is to pinch the dog's neck with the prongs, effectively distributing an even mild pressure that does no injury. The pressure is very mild, and does not hurt, merely hinders.
You can try it by putting it around the fleshy part of your thigh and pulling. You'll notice the difference immediately compared to the pain and choking sensation ofthe choke chain.
NOT recommended for dogs who pull on the leash steadily, this is merely a correction tool, and not a constant collar. It must be fitted properly, and you must know how to properly use it. Like any tool, it can do harm if used incorrectly. I do not recommend this collar for new dog owners unless extensive studying is done on it's use and a veterinarian consulted for fitting.

A Well-Named Device : the Choke Chain:

Not for the novice, and not recommended at all, the choke chain comes in dead last in this collar comparison. Studies have shown extensive trachea and neck injuries from improper use of this collar. It does exactly what it's name implies, it chokes, and if your dog is a puller, it chokes continuously. If used at all, it must be used by an experienced trainer.
Please remember to acclimatize your dog to any new collar, and ensure your dog associates it with good things. Plenty of treats and petting will help immensely.

2007-06-01 09:41:27 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 5 2

Inhuman? As in "bad for humans"? Then yes. Humans should not be wearing pinch collars.

In terms of dogs though, lots of trainers use pinch collars (more commonly called "prong collars"), especially if the dog is a puller. Let's face it, not all dogs are good on leashes. Some dogs are easy to train, but some dogs are holy terrors and will yank their owners halfway down the street. So when you get one of these aggressive pullers, you really don't have much choice other than to use the more drastic training methods out there. I wouldn't use a prong collar on a small dog or a docile dog, but I've seen them work wonders (when fitted properly) on an aggressive puller.

We had to use a prong collar on our puggle a few months ago, and it literally made the difference between him enjoying the walks, and him choking himself to death. Without the prong collar, he would PULL and PULL and STRAIN against his collar, no matter what you did. It sounded like he was gagging himself every day, and that was even with regular training! I was worried that my dog was going to A) have some sort of windpipe damage someday, or B) get off his leash and get hit by a car someday. So that's why I decided to go for the prong. It wasn't my first choice, but it sure did stop him from choking himself. One pull against a prong was pretty much all it took. Now not only are walks fun for both of us, no one (ie, my dog) is going to get hurt.

So I look at it this way: In the case of my dog, using a prong collar was much more humane than a regular collar. Because if I hadn't, one day my dog would have probably choked to death.

2007-06-01 10:06:11 · answer #2 · answered by Mario 3 · 4 0

I don't think they are inhumane if they are not abused and the owner keeps a careful eye on the dog that it is not choking or hurting too much if it is refusing to yield.

A better trained dog doesn't need a pinch collar. It's really all in the human and only a little in the dog (or any other animal, for that matter). Take your dog to school and then learn how you can be a better dog owner.

2007-06-01 09:41:36 · answer #3 · answered by luv_my_rats 5 · 1 1

If used properly they're not inhumane. Though normally they're used for larger dogs who are more powerful. A cockerspaniel shouldn't need to use one. A simple choke collar would suffice, always being sure to keep it at the highest part of the neck, just behind the ears, as this is where you have control. At the lower part of the neck, it doesn't matter what kind of collar you have, you won't have the full control you desire. Never keep tension on the leash. All corrections should be quick and firm. A quick tug upward is more than enough of a correction. Constant tension on the leash only drives the dog to pull more.
Another great alternative that works well is the Gentle Leader. It's a collar that's designed to go around the snout and back under and around the neck. They're very effective for any dog.
The choice is completely up to you though. Just please be sure that you know the product and how to use it before attempting to. You could end up doing more harm than good.
Good luck!

Hmm.. a little side note after reading some of the other responces. Pinch collars do Not hurt the dog if used properly. They simply simulate the bite of a dominant figure, which is the same correction that any pack leader would use on another member of the pack that was behaving unappropriately. - The only time they can and will hurt a dog is if there is constant hard tension on it at all times.
That is where knowing the product and how to use it comes into play. Some people are just ignorant.

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Okay - so I figured maybe I'd give you some tips on walking since you can't afford a training class at the moment.
Firstly, before you even attach the leash to the collar, you should be sure that your dog is in a calm and submissive state. Often a dog will get excited when they see the leash, this isn't the time to put it on the collar. That will only set the basis for an excited walk. Have her sit and wait patiently and allow her to calm herself down. Once she is sitting patiently, this is no whining, no shaking, no excessive panting, then you may attach the leash. (Like I said before, the collar should be at the highest part of the neck at all times.) When you leave the house, you always exit first, followed by her. Again, this sets the basis of the walk. If she leaves first, she's the leader of the walk. By following you out of the house, it sets in the imprint that she is following you on the walk. When you first begin your walk, don't allow her to sniff around or go to the bathroom, if she tries to pull away, or puts her nose to the ground, give a quick tug and keep moving forward, she can hold it for a few moments while you set the pace for the walk. Keep the leash short to make the corrections easier. For the duration of the walk she should be either at your side or behind you, Never in front of you. The very moment she starts to creep ahead, give a quick but firm upward tug on the leash, followed by a "sshtt" sound. This will redirect her attention back to you, and she should immediately slow down back to your side, or even straggle behind for a moment. If she continues to pull, give another quick tug and stop your walk. Have her sit for you, again, she must be sitting patiently before you start walking again. Once she's settled back down, you may begin walking. Don't let her choose when to walk, you should make the choice. Once she's walked by your side for a while you may then give some more slack on the leash as a reward for her good behaviors and allow her to sniff around and relieve herself. However, unless she's doing her business, you should always be moving in a forward motion. And then again, when you return home, you enter the house first, followed by her. (Also be sure there's pleanty of water for her when you get home, and after walks is also an excellent feeding time.) The rehabilitation of this issue is basically just repetition of the same corrective technique. She'll pick up on it quickly, it's just a matter of reconditioning a behavior that she's grown accustomed to having.
Good luck!!

2007-06-01 09:40:50 · answer #4 · answered by Lily 2 · 6 2

Absolutely not, if used correctly. My dog Gus was a terror when he was a puppy. We took him to obedience school and they recommended the pinch collar. He is a big dog so he would pull us when he was walking but with the pinch collar as soon as he tries to disobey by not heeling while walking he is reminded to do that.

16 years later and he is none the worse for only a couple years of using the pinch collar. Use it and see for yourself what a fantastic difference it makes.

2007-06-01 09:46:37 · answer #5 · answered by Michelle V 2 · 5 0

A choke collar is a secure for a canines to placed on, because of the fact the owner’s ability to in advantageous condition and use it properly. a individual might by lack of expertise because of the fact they do no longer know what they're doing choke the canines actually if it locks because of the fact they placed it on the incorrect way, which won't be able to ensue with a martingale, prong or universal buckle collar or in the event that they got down to misuse it and abuse the canines, via jerking it troublesome. I relatively have seen many canines working to the top of a leash and gasping for breath donning a flat leather-based buckle collar and that may no longer many times frowned on, while a canines flippantly at its proprietor’s area, with a loose lead on a choke collar is.

2016-11-24 22:36:28 · answer #6 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

NO. if used properly (this is key) a pinch or prong collar is a great tool. they have far less incidence of damaging the dog throat than a choke chain. dog's necks are not as sensitive as a humans neck, but it is still possible to cause injury. please contact a trainer on the proper way to use this collar.
if you are torn about using the prong, try using a head halter, which works kind of like a horse halter (it takes dogs a while to get used to it) and works very well.

2007-06-01 09:50:29 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

it certainly can be helpful if not abused....the pinch simulates a nip by someone higher up in the pack to let the dog know what is not appropriate.....it should not be used to choke a dog though, it is not punishment, it is correction and just a quick pinch will do the job...but as long as your dog is not aggressive you can do the same thing with your own hand....just use your fingers to grab and pinch lightly on the neck or hindquarters to snap the dog out of the behavior you don't want.....it is not the pain that teaches the dog so there is no need to make it hurt , it is the nip that corrects...good luck!

2007-06-01 09:45:43 · answer #8 · answered by susuze2000 5 · 3 0

I like them but then again I have been show how to use on correctly.
they now make teh muzzle trainers. it controls the way the head moves and the dog always follows teh head I actually like them much better. I had a dog that i even took to classes and used teh pinch collar and this is wht wirked for her
Good luck

2007-06-01 10:10:49 · answer #9 · answered by Kit_kat 7 · 0 0

If used propery I think they are a great tool. They look mean but a choke chain is worse. All it does is give a small pinch its not painfull more of a "hey pay attion" thing then a "im gonna beat you you little brat"

as long as you are using it properly then your fine, and if anyone tells you diffrent ignore them.

I personaly have never used one but I know people who do.

2007-06-01 09:44:19 · answer #10 · answered by monkeyeatbutt@sbcglobal.net 4 · 3 1

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