Intelligent Design Folk: I’m a tad puzzled…….?

Question

There are a number of cases in enzymatic pathways were futile cycles occur. These can be abolished through genetic manipulation. In all reported cases (that I’m aware of) abolishing these metabolic errors has no effect on the viability of the cell.

So, how do enzymatic futile cycles reflect an intelligent design?

Answer 1

Oh man, using big words like that just confuses them and reinforces the "ivory tower of intellectualism" conspiracy that they're so fond of...

Answer 2

It points to a creation that is still under a curse and suffers for it. Original genetics was perfect, no flaws which is why there were no inbreeding problems and original life expectancy was to be forever.
After the fall there were defects and as inbreeding took place the life expectancy steadily decreased as seen in the scripture until finally there was a prohibition placed on close inbreeding because the defects were too great.
I might turn you question around and ask how does the existance of futile cycles prove evolutionary theory other than the theory itself is futile?

Answer 3

The fact is Adam and Eve sinned so God punished man by creating enzymatic futile cycles. The proof of this is that now we only live to be about 90 years old. While in the past people lived to be 900 years old.

Answer 4

With all the pollution, pesticides, land fertilizing and soil tampering for massive annual farming, preservatives in food, poor dietary habits, (drinking,drugs or cigarettes during pregnancy, germs and disease, water supply pollution
so on and so on
Do you honestly think that this manipulation of earth, food and water supplies plus our poor choices could not play largely or micro enzymatic into futile cycles of cell and molecular disruption enough to cause such variables to show up somewhere in our genetic make up.

I am just glad God knows me and I have come to know Him.

I hope you will do the same someday.

Answer 5

Disclaimer: Intelligent Design is not science and shall never be science.

However, as a Christian who has studied biochemistry, is in agreement with evolution theory, and also believes in God as Creator, I'll take a stab at answering your question.

There's all kinds of interesting anatomical and genetic detritus in the world. The appendix is one example. Presumably, it used to be useful. In humans, it's now a vestigial organ that is of no consequence until something goes wrong with it. Mammalian genomes are FULL of introns - non-coding DNA sequences that serve no apparent purpose and are excised out of mRNA prior to translation. Just like your futile pathways, nature is full of redundancies. Why's it all there? I don't think anybody knows, regardless of worldview. The important point, though, is that the existence of redundancies and futile pathways raises questions exactly like yours.

For myself, I've always firmly believed that faith is a necessary element of spirituality. I don't believe we'll ever find anything where science has to step back and concede the intervention of a higher power. If you find something like that, then it's not faith anymore, it's *fact*, and fact requires no spiritual effort. I suppose that's a convoluted way of saying "God works in mysterious ways," but the point isn't that the WAYS are mysterious; the point is that GOD is and remains mysterious.

Answer 6

The Design and the Designer were and are intelligent. What was designed, however is another matter altogether. The designed were given the ability to govern themselves and what happened after that is not the fault of the Designer nor any indication of error in inadequacy in the Design.

Answer 7

You have to assume intelligent design {with a sense of humour}. Ever seen a giraffe get a drink of water - looked at a platypus - eaten a pomegranite - or opened an avacado?

Answer 8

You can't expect that the aliens went into every little detail when they made us to be their pharmaceutical cattle. They are some highly trained proffessionals, but give them a break! They're only human, except they're not human. You know what I mean!

Answer 9

I can explain, dear Grimmy.
It is akin to answering a question entitled "To atheists..." written by a fundamentalist christian.
It has no overall effect other than to waste energy ;)

Answer 10

Look. Anyone who's uneducated enough to believe in Intelligent Design, isn't going to have the faintest idea of what you're talking about.