why is satanic influences pervading the VATICAN?

Question

to farien 3, i like that word, disingenuous. what does it mean?

Answer 1

Perhaps they are that's maybe why the Holy Father is suffering so much.

Satan's main target on earth is the Holy Church and Satan can use insincere priests too.
But Jesus has promised Peter and his successors that the gates of hell will not prevail.

Answer 2

Your question begs for a whole host of counter questions?

Do you really believe that Satanic influences _are_ pervading the Vatican? I can think of a couple belief systems that believe this, and the answers would be different for each.

Do you believe that Satanic influences are pervading the Vatican more than they pervade the Kremlin, the Pentagon, the White House, 10 Downing Street, the United Nations etc. etc. ?

What do Satanic influences look like?

How do you know that that the influences that are pervading the Vatican are not Godly influences?

The Vatican is a human institution, and as such has its good and its bad. Personally, I do not think the Vatican is as important, either for good or for evil, as many seem to think.

Answer 3

Who says that satanic influences are "pervading" the Vatican?

If there is a Satan who can influence human beings, then it is possible that Satan is attempting to influence the human beings who populate the Vatican. But there is no evidence of that -- except, perhaps, in the rigid minds of ultra-conservative Catholics who simply refuse to understand anything outside of their own biased, pre-conceived notions.

Answer 4

You seem to about the only one to observe these satanic influences. Maybe you can help us by detailing them a bit.

Part of the problem is the structure of your question.

This loaded question is a logical fallacy, like the old unjust leading question, "Have you stopped beating your wife?"

This type of fallacy is called Plurium Interrogationum, which in Latin means "many questions" and is a question with a false, disputed, or question-begging presupposition.

For more information on loaded questions, see: http://www.fallacyfiles.org/loadques.html

With love in Christ.

Answer 5

Great question.

+++Jesus, the true founder of the gnostics/nazarenes+++

Jesus and the disciples were the true founders of the gnostics and nazarenes.

See:
http://one-faith-of-god.org/new_testament/apocrypha/nazarenes/nazarenes_0010.htm

Unfortunately, the texts are hard to follow because they require a fair knowledge of the history/context of Middle East religious groups at the time such as the Sadducees, Pharisees, Essenes.

In essence Jesus taught through the gnostic texts:

+ The god of the Old testament, the "jealous god", the "vengeful god" that demanded sacrifices, that demanded blood and war was actually satan pretending to be god.

+ The true God, is the father of all things, a loving universal god who would never display willing hatred towards any of his creations.

+ The Sadducee High Priests, the religious leaders hide behind white robes and words of holiness, but in fact were evil satanists who practiced black magic and human sacrifice.

+ The way to salvation is through self knowledge and the respect of all knowledge, not the promotion of ritual and ignorance of the double speaking satanists.

+++Paul of Tarsus and Christianity+++

+ Paul of Tarsus and the Sadducee Jewish High Priests formed the parasitic religion of christianity including the false scriptures listed as the "Bible", especially the New Testament. Paul hated women, hated them with a passion and considered them worse than slaves and domestic animals.
See:
http://one-faith-of-god.org/new_testament/apocrypha/founders_christianity/founders_christianity_0010.htm

+So when Catholic apologists, pr agents and spin doctors say Jesus chose men and so the church follows his tradition, it is really Paul they follow.

+And when christians quote the Bible that only men were the founders of christianity, they refuse to acknowledge the true teachings of Jesus in the gnostic texts and his demand that women be treated equally in all matters.

+++The Vatican follows the God of Paul+++

+ The Vatican follows strictly the God of Paul, being the God of the Sadducees and the primary enemy of Jesus, the Nazarenes and the apostles.

+ This god has many names and two faces- the name of Amen, the name of YHWH, the name of "god", and the name of the great deceiver.

+ There are thousands of examples of the darkness of the Vatican for almost 20 centuries. See the Almanac of Evil:
http://one-faith-of-god.org/final_testament/end_of_darkness/evil/evil_0180.htm

+++WWJD? What would Jesus Do?+++

+ Jesus has been continually mis-represented thanks to Paul of Tarsus for 2000 years.

+ He would hope that people who believe in him, would listen to his plea for women to be treated as equal and with respect in all matters rather than just follow whatever they are told by a religious organization with vested interests.

+ Above all that people who falsely claim to be speaking in his name stop.

+ With love in the Real Jesus Christ.

Answer 6

Satanic influence is everywhere. Humans are just that- human. It's sad to know that people we count on to be trustworthy, dependable, and honest, (which actually is EVERYONE) have become vein, selfish and greedy. The best trick the devil's ever played, is convincing the world that he doesn't exist!!!!!

Answer 7

anybody who's naive adequate to think of that an previous, bearded guy in flowing robes is flying approximately in area, whilst listening to billions of prayers, all on a similar time, shouldn't respond to your question. Such human beings lack the flexibility to reason.

Answer 8

Clearly Satan must be more powerful than God, because he has the ability to infiltrate God's chosen religions, and create alternatives for man to be deceived by.

God either doesn't care about the resulting millions in hell, or isn't powerful enough to stop Satan.

Answer 9

And have you stopped beating your wife?

Prove that there are "satanic influences" in the Vatican first. Then maybe we'll talk.

I won't hold my breath, though.

Answer 10

Of course. I'm sure there has been quite a bit of influence for hundreds of years now. Why do you think Catholicism is so corrupt?