Sincere question to people who say you can lose your salvation (Christians)??

Question

If once a person is saved by God's grace how can one lose one's salvation? Doesn't that negate the whole Jesus dying on the cross thing?

If people can still lose salvation after Christ died for all of us, shouldn't we have just told Jesus to forget about dying on the cross for us? How is it any different now than in times when jews sacrificed for their sins if salvation could be lost?

Also if salvation were lost, wouldn't it be impossible to be saved again since Christ died only once for our sins?

DO people like Roman Catholics think what Christ did was a waste? THe law was fufilled by Christ was it not?

Im really looking for answers to these questions from people who think salvation can be lost.

that has nothing to do with anything Catalyst :-/

FOr grace are you saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is a gift of God not of WORKS lest any man should boast...does this mean nothing, it states clearly that works wont save you. So if you have to are you all saying God's power is not enough to save those who believe?

You must repent before you become saved. IN other words turn from your sins and believe on Jesus.

Answer 1

You cannot "lose" your salvation, but you can refuse it after you've had it. This is extremely rare, but not unheard of.

So you cannot "lose" salvation, but you can throw it away. No one can take it from you.

Answer 2

The problem with the question of salvation "being lost" is based on a false premise - that we can actually have salvation while we are alive on this earth. Catholics believe what the Bible tells us (obviously, since the Catholic Church compiled the Bible) - that "those who endure to the end, SHALL be saved". So, the Catholic Church certainly teaches that salvation, once we have received it, cannot ever be lost. But the Church also agrees with the Bible that we do not receive salvation until we have completed our time upon earth. Until then we are "working out our salvation with fear and trembling", just as the Bible commands us.

Until then we are not "saved" as manmade denominational religion so often claims. Rather, we are on the road to salvation. Sometimes we wander off that road. That's where repentence comes in, allowing us to get back on the road that leads to salvation. All of this is by the grace of God, so salvation is indeed by grace alone. We cannot maintain a relationship with God in the face of all of earths trails and temptations except by God's grace. However, we still have free will, and every person, no matter how intimate their relationship with God, can freely choose at any moment to just walk away, and we know that many have done so. The typical Protestant response to this situation is, "well they were never saved in the first place". CORRECT! And neither is anyone else! Yet many of them sincerely thought they were "saved", and Satan used that false security to draw them away. No-one alive on this earth is already saved. And thinking you are places you in greater danger of not remaining faithful to the end, and never actually receiving salvation.

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Answer 3

God honors choice. Free will was HIS idea.

Accepting Jesus (grace through faith) does not remove your free will.

Scripture is clear on the matter- see Hebrews 10:25-27... and yes, correct, once lost, there is no way back for a person who has had thorough complete mature knowledge of the truth inclusive of being born again and trained up into maturity in Christ... if that person also denies Him.

See 2 Timothy 2:12.
It's a waste to be sure- it's a nightmarish horror to think of. I believe it to be very rare- but still possible -since Scripture speaks of it in so many places.

Answer 4

the debate should not be if a Christian can lose their salvation. The Scritures and from Jesus very own words is their an insurance that each and anybody you think would have eternal existence. the debate would desire to be; can a Christian provide up believing??? each and everything is attainable if we've self belief! Mat. 18:15-17. Rebelation 3 of the church of Sardis. Exudus 32. Peter 3. those person believed in the initiating, yet falling in sin, they'd not decide directly to repent. no longer believing do no longer produce stable end result.

Answer 5

Why do you think Jesus said to the woman caught in adultery "Go and sin no more"

Can salt regain it's saltiness after it has lost it? "All things are possible with God" (confession)

St Paul said "I work out my Salvation daily with fear and trembling" We are given a ticket to Heaven but the box office is at the door. We must journey to get there. Why did Jesus wash the feet of the Apostles at the Last Supper if he had already washed them like he said? It was because of the sins of the World. What was stuck to their feet (this is outside of the fact that he was showing them that to be great you must be a servant) was removed with the Sacrament of Penance (confession)

Why would Jesus bother to save people who were not sorry for their sins? People who are sorry for their sins do not intend to do them again and people who figure once saved always saved don't mind sinning again because it makes no difference they think if they do or they don't.

Answer 6

working from Act 16:30-31, where Paul talks about this in the bible......my understanding is that Christ's resurrection opened the door - we still have to walk through it and that entails some effort on our part....we have to move our feet or enter by works.

There are two different ways that epople generally try to interpret the meaning here. Assuming that Paul means the law of Moses, (There was a tendency among some Jewish Christians to insist that Christianity still required obedience to Mosaic principles such as circumcision, the dietary laws, and the observance of certain festivals) Paul combats that doctrine strongly, saying that no matter how strictly a person kept the law of Moses, it of itself would not bring salvation. The power of salvation comes only through Christ because of his atonement.

However, he makes it broader than that too. For example, in warning the Ephesians about concluding that a man is saved by works, he makes no reference to the law: “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourself: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” (Eph. 2:8–9.) So while this explanation is somewhat correct, it does not go far enough.

The second explanation goes something like this: The fall of Adam brought two kinds of death into the world—physical death, which is the separation of body and spirit, and spiritual death, which is separation of man from God. The atonement of Christ overcame physical death through the Resurrection. This is salvation by grace because it comes to all men automatically and does not depend on what kinds of lives they have lived. But, ( and not all christians believe this) if we wish to overcome spiritual death and enter back into God’s presence, we must be obedient to laws and principles. This is exaltation by works.

Thus, according to this explanation, we are saved by grace and exalted by works.

The resurrection of the dead is certainly an integral part of the plan of salvation, and is unconditional and independent of men’s works, the term salvation as used in the scriptures does not mean physical resurrection alone. Salvation is synonymous with exaltation:

Answer 7

The lord said that those that endure until the end the same shall be saved.( The end is not here u must continue to follow god ). U must rember that a person can stop serving the lord at any given time in their life, an dstart to committ much sin. Shall they still keep thei salvation.

Answer 8

When you first accept Jesus as your Saviour, heaven is not sealed for you or me at that moment. I've never thought it was. If salvation was just an easy " yes, Lord. " Then why was the cost for Jesus soooo great? People want the crown, but they don't want the cross; They want heaven, but they never do the principles of God's Word that writes their names in the book of Life. Salvation is an ongoing process from the moment you first believed. Everything we say, think, do, matters to God and is evidence of whether our faith is a living faith or a dead one. The book of Jude warns against " apostasy." Apostasy is when people who were once saved turn away from God's Truth and embrace false teachings. We are to " Never " forget that the Lord punishes rebellion against Him. You need to feed yourself God's Word because all people who do not seek to know the truth of Scripture are sucsceptible to apostasy, as God's Word tell us to cling to our faith lest we " drift away." God's plan of Salvation isn't flawed. The way men view God is the problem.

Answer 9

Think of it this way, salvation is never lost, salvation is earned and a gift from God for everyone who believes in him.
After all we all are sinners born by man and we can not be perfect, the process of salvation is a journey to perfection one that we have be sure to be on the right path.
God can't be tested so hold on to Ur salvation and remember to live by the righteous code of conduct.

Answer 10

In order to loose your salvation you must have had it to begin with. To be saved you must not only say a prior asking Christ to be your Lord, but you must also live your life to serve him and others. In the bible Jesus says, I did not come to be served, but to serve. This is the same for us as Christians.

To loose your salvation you must blasphemy the holy spirit. Now people have taken this out of context and think that if you just say that you don't believe in the holy spirit and Christ you will be damned to hell. That is not true. In order to loose your slavation you must know the truth and live in it.

An example is if someone believed in Jesus and even saw miracles performed by the Holy Spirit. They had a personal relationship with Christ and new that he was real and did all that it says in the bible. Then after knowing without a doubt that he was real, they decide they don't want to have anything to do with Christ. If they deny Christ before man and declare that he is not real and begin to persued people away from the truth, they risk the chance of loosing their salvation. But altimighly it is up to the Lord and we won't know till we get to heaven.

Answer 11

You must repent before you become saved? Well, if you can opt in, why wouldn't you be able to opt out? Free will is free will. From what I've seen in any apologetics circles, you can justify anything you want from the Bible. Tennis is mentioned in the Bible. Joseph served in Pharoah's court, remember?

Seriously though, if you look at it as grace preceding faith rather than following it, then grace means you don't opt yourself in. God predestines, foreknows, calls, etc. and does the opting! And now you are correct, you can't lose your salvation because God is far more powerful than you. He elects, He saves, He holds you in the palm of His hand. I look at it this way because I have completely let go of my own abilities, and it's wonderful to be ingrafted into Christ and completely dependent upon Him rather than looking to myself for decisions that affect my eternity. With God in charge, who am I to tell Him whether He will save me, who am I to tell Him whether He will release me from His eternal hug?