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2007-06-01 00:42:39 · 21 answers · asked by digilook 2 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Sure.
Enlightenment is over rated...
Before you reach enlightenment, you think if you knew the answers to everything, if you knew the essence of wisdom, of truth, then you would be free.
It turns out that all that enlightenment is the realization that to be human is more, to feel is more, to be is more.
Awareness has no mass. Absolute is nothing
Life is everything.
Awareness Loves Life (ALL)
So because I am alive, I eat, I sleep, I sometimes get impatient, I argue and I get annoyed.
You can make up your own mind whether you think I have reached enlightenment or not.
You can read my journey at http://www.ucadia.com
2007-06-01 00:48:45 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 2⤋
Well that's an interesting thought. Hmmm. It depends if I agree with them or not. ;-)
Actually, no I don't think so but I can see how one might be interpreted by some as being pridful simply because they disagree with what the other person believes is a divine dictate. It can be a bit subjective this idea of pride.
Then again it is really easy to be passive, if you say and do nothing how can you be accused of such things. Darn, you can under the right curcumstances! Context, action and non-action all are louded. The same goes for the other examples you have given.
Passivity? Is that enlightenment I don't think it is. IMO. I have opinions so am I self centered? It starts to get muddy right about here for me.
Peace!
HELLO! HE, HE, HE, HE? What about the individual, or She? or human being? Loose the perpetual HE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AWAKENNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't jump all over me but if a man is enlightened how could he be a sexist? Hmmm? Looks like a phonie to me if that is the case.
I think Gaz may be enlightened. Smiles!
2007-06-03 11:43:08 · answer #2 · answered by Jamie 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Arumentative: DEFINATELY
Judgemental: NO
Prideful: YES
In the right: 50/50
People that are enlightened are usually argumentative. They are people that are willing to seek truth, knowledge, and power no matter the consequences or time need to discover any of them.
Generally speaking, enlightened people would likely know that you "can't judge a book by its cover"... Well informed people would also know that each person is different and cannot be judged based on occupation, place of origin, or anything else. In addition to that, well informed people know that a decision cannot be made without knowing all of the facts.
I would say that enlightened people would usually be prideful. They have spent much of their time examining various religions, rules, governments, and so on. They know a great deal about a great deal (both literally and figuratively) and they would and should be proud of it.
Lastly, they are not neccisarily in the right all the time. Although enlightened, they may have misinterpreted the information, been 'enlightened' by un-enlightened sources, or have a bias towards the wrong side of a particular issue. I would say that they are 'generally' in the right because if they are truly enlightened, they have studied various angles of issues, but to be truly enlightend, most stereotypes and previous experiences need to be eliminated from the thinking process -- something that in my personal experiences are virtually impossible.
2007-06-01 01:00:08 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
Of course one can, but obviously not during the key moments of enlightenment. During those moments, you've momentarily released any attachments to those reactions. Afterward may be a different story. If you're still in the flesh you will probably try to interact in the world from this new perspective and you will inevitably run into much opposition, (especially if you're vocal with your new-found understanding) and still being 100% human, you may have numerous reactions, including those you mentioned in your question. (Enlightenment brings a new set of challenges.) You are still a unique individual and you are still capable of experiencing the entire spectrum of human emotions and feelings. You can still be surprised and caught off guard. (enlightenment is another kind of beginning) The apostle Paul spoke of the sanctification of the saints. He was speaking of the period after enlightenment, as those involved overhauled the rest of their belief systems. What was released momentarily must now be released once and for all. Many times the only way to do that is from those very perspectives of argumentative, judgemental mindsets. Remember the old saying? If you would have patience, the universe will help you by putting you into situations where you are required to cutivate and exercise patience.
Enlightenment is a great awakening. You truly come to know your place as being human for the first time (in a new light), but you're still human, and you still have work to do and challenges to overcome. I offer no hope for the lazy! LOL!
2007-06-01 16:33:12 · answer #4 · answered by ? 6 · 3⤊ 1⤋
Enlightenment is not something a person reaches, rather it is a state of consciousness above the mundane often referred to as Supermundane, once realised there can be no ego to bruise yet there would necessarily be a purpose to be compassionate.
In the perceptions of others there may be misunderstanding of this purpose and compassion leading to misconceptions but hardly fault or blame.
Right View and Right Speech with Right Intent would negate Judgement and Argument and Pride would be irrelevent. There would necessarily be Right Concentration and Right Effort because of the Eightfold Noble Path making being in the Right quite correct.
It would be difficult not to be in the Right but more difficult to avoid others Judgements, Arguments and Pride thereby avoiding hurting others. Difficulty becomes the benchmark for choice of Action, if it is difficult to avoid hurting others then it is probably the Right Choice, if the choice benefits others and holds no benefit to yourself and is also diffcult then the choice is correct. If another's pride is bruised yet they gain something from the wisdom imparted in the exchange which benefits them then the negative judgements and arguments remain valid.
In a similar vane as bad tasting medicine benefits the patient yet causes discomfort so too can a bruised ego through Right Intent bringing Wisdom to another be beneficial.
Peace from a Buddhist...
2007-06-01 08:09:23 · answer #5 · answered by Gaz 5 · 4⤊ 1⤋
Perhaps it depends on the degree of enlightenment. But I would think a truly enlightened person would be above most of those things. But "in the right" - that one I'm not so sure about. One would not expect an enlightened person to be - "in the WRONG!"
Oh, and hey, peace and love right back to you, too!
2007-06-01 00:55:18 · answer #6 · answered by harridan5 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Yes, very very much !!
All the more 'free' to do what he feels is appropriate in the situation.
See, enlightenment is about the inner world and does not in any way bind a person, regarding his action in the outside situation ! The deeper clarity, perception etc 'allows' him/her to do what is most appropriate in the outside situation without any pride, pre-concluded-prejudiced-judgement, etc.
Take the case of mythological character Lord Krishna, in Mahabharatha.. he did things no normal person would dare to do. It is convenient to 'justify' , find the true reason etc for what he did. But try to visualise being at the receiving end of his actions !
It requires a matching level of deep perception to fully grasp the actions of such a being, which otherwise may appear normal or even eccentric to common people. Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa was a nuisance to local residents(in their narrow perception, ofcourse) when he shouted out the songs at mid-night on streets !
2007-06-01 18:23:35 · answer #7 · answered by Spiritualseeker 7 · 3⤊ 1⤋
i think there are levels to enlightenment- it has degrees
just like the pre-enlightened state
i have wondered this myself having studied with a teacher who was said to be enlightened...at times while teaching he seemed to get annoyed if people were not listening, yawning, falling asleep, and he would express his offence to the person- singling them out and scolding them for not being respectful. i thought that was a bit prideful- thinking if he was enlightened , he wouldn't care who was recieving and who was not- but maybe this was my interpretation- and it had nothing to do with pride
anyway...i think that yes, people can be enlightened but still have moments of being a regular human- and that the enlightened state is dynamic. there are very highly advanced beings who are super-enlightened, and some beings that are just slightly enlightened- (sounds funny) but are always ascending higher on that scale
2007-06-01 17:12:18 · answer #8 · answered by zentrinity 4 · 2⤊ 1⤋
. . . Yes ...in a sense. Might an enlightened person also be a person with a bit of " attitude "? We are not simply souls...we are souls living a human experience...thus human influences...personalities . . . unique individuals. Do all " enlightened " persons have to be sitting on a mountain top never to cause a wrinkle, never experiencing human emotions that at times " stir the dust "?
Your choice of words . . . argumentative or healthy debate ? . . .Judgmental or having a keen eye of what's going on ? . . .Prideful or having confidence of inner strength...glorifying / honoring the Light that is within ? In the right or holding fast to what they feel within...not dimming the Truth of the Light ?
Is that one enlightened ? By whose standards ? Not for you to say if a person is enlightened or not...even if they say they are. Simply walk your journey and leave them to walk theirs. All are of the Light...simply at different levels of awareness.
Be of Peace to yourself and others...Love all...Allow others to gently be on their journey.
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2007-06-01 16:47:52 · answer #9 · answered by onelight 5 · 3⤊ 1⤋
No if one is enlightened they would feel no need for them self to be right, nor to argue, judge and they certainly could not be prideful and be enlightened. One who is those things and claims enlightenment is far from enlightened.
2007-06-01 01:21:03 · answer #10 · answered by ? 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋