I'd search through and found these a few write up and it's a bit disputable because their year of birth is bit out of range.
Josephus Flavius ( Born 37 CE )
Pliny the Younger ( Born 62 CE )
Tacituys ( Born 64 CE )
Suetonius ( Born 69 CE )
Var0Seraouion ( Born 73 CE )
Ignatius ( Born 50 CE )
Polycarp ( Born 69CE )
Justin Martyr ( Born 100CE)
And I won't put in to the list for those whom year of birth are after 100CE.
I am not saying I am right. I may be wrong, and totall wrong.
Here we are sharing knowledge.
However, my point of view is it's very difficult to access 100% accurate from hearsay account.
Healthy discussion please.
Cheer
I'd got the list from
http://www.nobeliefs.com/exist.htm
2007-05-31
18:18:44
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To those who said Bible is withness account, please check the date of bibble, it's already expired,
Joking,
Bible are well written after Jesus dead. And I could find any phrase that said,
I withness that Jesus turned a jar of water to wine.... or something like that.
( I may be wrong, please feel free to correct me )
2007-05-31
18:30:02 ·
update #1
If we consider Bible is eye withness account, then in year 2200, there will be new religion called "Harry Poter (gee wrong spelling)
2007-05-31
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No, there is no credible evidence to prove Jesus Christ ever existed. For those who quote "The Holy Bible" as a credible source...may I remind them that the earliest account of Jesus' ministry was recorded from oral tradition and heresay some 70 to 100 years after the fact. There are some 15 missing Gospels of the New Testament removed by the Councel of Nicea in about 325 AD (I think) and that for some 1400 years every existing text of the New Testament was hand copied by monks of the Church that inforced Christianity upon others by the sword. Judging by the fact that almost every major New Testament account of Jesus' experiences can be traced back to earlier beliefs, it is believed by many that he was merely an archtype for religion that came out of the Middle East (based on a heaven/hell senerio)...that we have but only one life to live (rather than many) and what we do during this one life determines how we will spend eternity. Some God! No thanks. There are older more accurate beliefs in God & Goddess that came out of Egypt, India and China...take your pick. They weren't based on death and destruction to those who disagree.
2007-05-31 18:29:20
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answered by Anonymous
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There is very little direct archaeogical evidince for Jesus, but there seems to be a bit conserning other characters of the Jesus story.
There is evidence of Pontius Pilate in Roman records, and not too long ago, they found the ossuary (bone box) of Ciaphus. They also have the rap-sheet of the criminal Barabbas.
Barabbas is an interesting character, by the way, and may give clues to a historical Jesus. While the Bible refers to Barabbas as a bandit, murderer and an insurectionist, little is said of his crimes. Evidence has it that he killed two Roman soldiers during an uprising.
There are further claims that Barabbas IS Jesus. Check this out...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barabbas#.22Jesus_Barabbas.22
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barabbas#Were_Barabbas_and_Jesus_the_same_person.3F
As should always be the case, check all of the links attached to wiki articles--and do your own research. There is a lot out there on the topic. There should be plenty.
Recently, archaeologists claim that they may have found caves used by John the Baptist, and maybe Jesus himself, during baptism rites. I saw this on the History Channel, and do not have links on hand.
The fact is, however, that the non-existance of proof is not proof of non-existance. Furthermore, faith is cheap when evidence abounds.
There is a profound difference between TRUTH and FACT. One can speak the Truth without ever uttering a word of Fact. The purpose of myth and religion is to show humanity how it SHOULD be. Fact has little to do with this.
My suggestion is that one searches for the TRUTH, finding it where ever he may. Facts won't help you have a happy and peaceful existance.
2007-05-31 18:36:29
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answered by Celtic 2
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Here's my little "essay" on why I don't believe Jesus ever existed; it addresses your question (short answer: no, no comtemporary evidence/eyewitness accounts):
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I don't believe he ever existed because there is no contemporary evidence of his existence (that is, nothing about him recorded during his alleged life)--the 'soonest' evidence we have is from Saul of Tarsus, who wrote about Jesus at LEAST 40 years after his alleged death.
Not only that, but Saul writes with NO knowledge of most of the alleged events of Jesus's life that are mentioned in the Gospels (which came long after Saul's writings (about 80,000 words), keep in mind). He mentions only the last bits about Jesus--him being crucified and rising up to heaven. However, Saul makes it quite clear that he is not talking about an earthly Jesus, but a mythical one, and places the crucifixion etc. in a mythical realm, not earth. The closest he comes to mentioning a Jesus who 'walked among us' is when he mentions that (paraphrasing, bear with me) 'if Jesus lived on earth, he would not be a priest' or something like that.
Yup--that is how shaky the foundation is. Saul's account is the strongest (because his account comes long before any other) link between Jesus's alleged life and the gospels which go into great detail about it. It's the strongest much in the same way that molten lead is the most refreshing drink to be found on Venus.
So basically, we got Saul's stuff, which strongly clashes with the gospels it preceded, and then we've got nothing for at least a few more decades after that (next account is the Gospel of Mark (which is attributed to Mark but is actually an anonymous work; further supporting this is the fact that there is a consensus that this gospel was written in the 60s or 70s CE--there's no way someone alive during Jesus's alleged life would still be alive in those times). Then suddenly we have all kinds of details about Jesus's life that just seem to pop up out of nowhere. Anyone looking at this objectively would quickly come to the very fair conclusion that the writers of the gospels were 'storytelling' as opposed to recording history when they wrote them. Their goal was to convert people, not to document history, which is why they were writing _gospels_ in the first place.
Now, taking all of that into consideration...is it any wonder that one would be quite skeptical of the earthly existence of Jesus Christ as the Bible describes him (it's not that he COULDN'T have existed, but when you take a step back and look at everything, it surely seems QUITE unlikely, wouldn't you agree)?
P.S. Theologians generally agree that the other three gospels in the Bible are clearly derived from Mark, which is why I didn't mention them specifically.
2007-05-31 18:21:53
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I don't think there are any first hand accounts. But I think a passage in the writings of Josephus presents the best evidence when Jesus is mentioned as a secondary character in an account of the stoning of his brother James. Another Josephus passage is sometimes mentioned. It starts out saying he was a doer of wondrous deeds. I don't think this passage was written by Josephus but added by the early Christian church. It is to theologically oriented and proclaims Jesus to be the Christ.
2007-05-31 18:29:52
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answered by Mr. Bodhisattva 6
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you have of course on no account even afflicted to look at historic previous have you ever? Josephus, the Jewish historian mentions Him. this is that this type of stupid question that uneducated human beings ask each and all the time. additionally, the Roman historic previous spoke approximately Jesus. in case you certainly look truly of basically think of, you will locate there are various references to Jesus in historic previous. once you certainly study approximately what you're being skeptical approximately, then you certainly will ask sensible questions with reference to the only called Christ.
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Look in the Bible there are all kinds of witnesses. If you dismiss those writings then you really do not want an answer. Books were not preserved unless they had some kind of significance. Why would someone want to copy the works of these people that you have listed. I am sure that a lot of writen texts back then deteriorated away unless the message was so important that it was preserved
2007-05-31 18:24:14
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The books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John each tell about the life of Jesus Christ. There are also historical accounts. Not only are there witnesses, The birth of Christ was prophesied many many years before his birth.
2007-05-31 18:29:51
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answered by Jennifer N 3
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I can't help wonder why you don't consider the authors of the New Testament to be eye witnesses. Are you selectively discounting some testimony to arrive at a predetermined answer?
2007-05-31 18:24:39
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answered by Andrew B 2
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The Gospels themselves testify to hundreds if not thousands of eyewitnesses. However, not everybody wrote down the things they saw. There is no eyewitness evidence refuting these claims either.
2007-05-31 18:24:24
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answered by stpolycarp77 6
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Only the for sure reliable source! God himself.
2007-05-31 18:23:15
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