I found out that we have a fundamentalist here at work, know what we did about it?

Question

At first the guy seemed ok. Then a few weeks ago he mentioned that he and his wife homeschool their two children. I thought "oookaaaayyyy, that's a HUGE red warning light right there" and then about a week ago I asked him why they decided to homeschool. He said , and I kid you not; "because schools these days teach very dangerous things like sex education and evolution."
So the president and I had a little chat and the guy had his walking papers the next day.
For those of you wondering why, the company I work for (and sit on the board of directors) is involved in scientific research.
No way are we going to allow someone with that kind of attitude in here. And I checked on his application, where it said religion, he wrote "atheist". (usually if someone writes that they are a christian or a muslim, we just shred the application) So he lied as well to get in here.
So much for christian virtue and honesty huh?

Sorry Kitty but here in Canada, we most certainly can.
Especially when it's a private company.

So let me get this straight, some of you would WANT someone who is stuck in the bronze age (mentally) when medical science is concerned?
Fine, hope you like treppaning, because that's as sophisticated as they ever got.

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No problem Kitty. If I could find a canadian flag Icon I'd use it.

Answer 1

If people start lying they cannot stop.

That's why so many christians live a lie.

Good decision. My company does not hire screwballs either.

Answer 2

Wow.. You are a fellow Canadian?? I am ashamed.. that is discrimination based on religion, no wonder the poor guy lied. Now before you start saying I must be a religious person as well I can assure you I am not, I am agnostic. I dont believe in any gods, but I also dont believe it is right to judge someone based on their religion... do you realize that you did to that man what religion used to do to unbelivers? how can you justify that to yourself? You are just as guilty of bigotry as any religious nut now.... Besides did you actually ask him what his religion was? How do you know he wasnt an atheist that just doesnt accept evolution? Honestly I am ashamed that you live in my country of Canada.. we are supposed to be accepting of all religions, as we are a muticultural society... Also homeschooling is not strictly limited to the religious.. I have considered homeschooling children should I have some in the future, not because of the same reasons your co-worker mentioned, but still there is nothing wrong with homeschooling.. Christopher Paolini was homeschooled and he wrote the Eragon novel at 15 years old and has since become author of the bestselling Eragon books which have been made into movies. So I dont know where you get off persecuting people for what they believe or how they choose to raise their children but it is none of your business and should have no bearing on someones qualifications for a job.... just because the person may have been religious doesnt mean he couldnt be involved in scientific research.. and you didnt even ask him what religion he belonged too.. Really I am ashamed that you are a Canadian... poo on you for being a bigot!!

Answer 3

He never told you he wasn't an atheist did he? Just because he doesn't beleive in evolution doesn't automatically mean he is religious. You said he had an attitude but you are the one who asked the question to him. He wasn't running around pushing his idea of homeschool on anyone. Sounds like a very open-minded company.haha And you shred any application that has a religion you don't like, so you basically make an assumption about someone without actually testing them first. Sounds like science in action.

Answer 4

LOL! But seriously folks, how could any Christian get upset over this hypothetical? In most states an Evangelical church can refuse to higher homosexuals or atheists, and these are tax exempt organizations (that means public tax dollars pay for public services they use).

It seems many Christians cry "discrimination" not only when they are discriminated against, but also when their perceived "right" to discriminate against others is taken away. It's a bit oxymoronic (if I may).

-Wow! I didn't realize Yoda is serious (or from Canada).

Can you really get away this? Props to you then. Unfortunately, a move like this in America would cost your company dearly. We're craaaaaazzy about lawsuits as I'm sure you're aware.

Answer 5

I am assuming that you do not live in the USA. To ask a persons religion on a job application is against the law. He has grounds for a law suit and would win.

By the way, you are aware that Darwin was a theist, aren't you? As were:
Albert Einstein, physicist, scientific genius
Issac Newton, physicist, mathematican, one of the greatesr scientist of all time
Willian Herchel, atronomer
Galileo Galilei, astronomer
Louis Agassiz, naturalist, geologist
Geroge-Louis Leclerc de Buffon, naturalist
Nicholas Butler, educator
George Washington Carver, chemist
Alfred Whitney Griswood, educator, historian
Stephen Hawking, physicist
Maria Mitchell, astronomer
Johannes Kepler, astronomer
Loius Agassiz, geologist
Blaise Pascal, mathematician
Rene Descartes, mathematician, philosopher
Robert Boyle, chemist
Michael Faraday, father of electricity
Gregor Mendel, founder of genetics
William Thomson Kelvin, physicist
Max Planck, inventor of quantum mechanics
Loius Pasteur, microboilogist
Antoine Laurent Lavoisier, chemist
Aristotle, philosophy
Euclid, mathematician
Nicolaus Copernicus, asrtonomy, catholic
priest
James Watt, steam engine inventor
James Clerk Maxwell, physicist, electromagnism
Wright brothers, aviation
James Dalton, chemist, physicist
Thomas Edison, inventor
Antony van Leeuwenhhoek, invented microscope
Plato, philosophy
Alexander Graham Bell, invented telephone
Jospeh Lister, used Bible to discover modern antiseptics
Edward Jenner, vaccination for samllpox
Wilhelm Roentgen, x-rays
Enrico Fermi, father of the atom bomb
Gregory Pinuc, endocrinologist, invent birth control pill
Henry Ford, inventor
Francis Bacon, philosopher, established modern scientific method
Robert Jastrow, founder of NASA

You only wish you had such people at your company.

Answer 6

Are you sure that your attitudes--and the attitudes (policies) of your company aren't as "bronze age" as the person whom you have identified?

I would say that as long as their belief systems do NOT get in the way of their job performance, then they should be allowed to belief, practice--home school--or anything else they want.

Afterall--your beliefs and the beliefs of others at your company seem to be 'okay', eh? (Note: You logic is similar to that which is used by just about ALL 'tyrannical systems'.)

And, you need to be able to prove and/or demonstrate it; otherwise you may be opening yourself up to a lawsuit.

In fact, you better hope and pray that this message and the fact that a sitting member of the board of this company has asked such a question, and made such comments in a public and/or open forum--as in you may have already shot yourself in the ****!?

Notwithstanding, what are your company's policies concerning misrepresentations on your job applications/resumes? If there is an EXISTING policy concerning this, then it should be enforced. If you make a policy up AFTER this, then again, you are going to be subject to legal scrutiny.

Regards,

Answer 7

How do you know he was a Christian? Evolution is not a scientific fact, just an unproven theory that people like the sound of. Also, some sex education is seen as harmful, teaching the mechanics without the love/care/emotional side.
I know a number of people who home school for quite different reasons.Unless he actually told you that he was a Christian, you may have been jumping to conclusions.

Answer 8

Hang on where does your company get the idea to shred people's application based on religion? I'm catholic but I don't believe that evolution didn't occur. That's crazy talk. But to shred someone's application is bigotry and Discrimination which is against the Work act. By the way before you go thinking that I am a religious zealot or anything like that I believe that there are two reasons why I beat cancer, one my faith and two scientific research that gave me the medication that made be better and not always in that order. I;m just saying don't always judge people like that, it's not nice.

Answer 9

That sounds a little harsh, unless of course his beliefs were interfering with his work in which case, yeah, walk on, dude.

I'm pretty sure you can't discriminate someone based on their religious affiliation, which sounds like what was done here. I mean, I'm Christian but I believe in science, evolution and that children should be given comprehensive sex education, and yet based on a box checked on a paper, my application to your company would be shredded. Is your job a private business? If not, I'd be wary of sharing such stories.

Most people (yes, even fundamentalists) can separate personal from business, but if they can't that's when they can cause problems at work. This does not sound like a justifiable case, and your work sounds like a hotbed of paranoia.

Answer 10

If this was in the U.S. your company should have been sued for discriminating against this man and it is a violation of US EEOC guidelines.

Instead, there is a way to eliminate this problem. That is to set up a code of ethics for your business and all applicants are required to abide by the code of ethics. Organizations, such as the Fetzer Center in Michigan have eliminated this problem by ensuring the applicants understand and agree to the code of ethics. If they cannot abide by the code of ethics, then they can't have a job.

While it is wrong that the person lied about being an atheist, I believe you and your boss are much more at fault here. You choose to discriminate against someone strictly based on his religious beliefs. What does that have to do with his ability to do the job??? That type of behavior that you two did does not say a lot about the ethics of your organization.

And people say that there is no backlash against Christians today.

Answer 11

I find it hard to believe you are on any board of directors. Your writing seems more like a High School aged level of eloquence.
Tell the truth before I go into the Canadian law books and prove you wrong right here in front of the Y!A audience. Canadian law on religious protection is just as firm as American.