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"When we hear the ancient bells growling on a Sunday morning we ask ourselves: Is it really possible! This, for a Jew, crucified two thousand years ago, who said he was God's son? The proof of such a claim is lacking. Certainly the Christian religion is an antiquity projected into our times from remote prehistory; and the fact that the claim is believed - whereas one is otherwise so strict in examining pretensions - is perhaps the most ancient piece of this heritage. A god who begets children with a mortal woman; a sage who bids men work no more, have no more courts, but look for the signs of the impending end of the world; a justice that accepts the innocent as a vicarious sacrifice; someone who orders his disciples to drink his blood; prayers for miraculous interventions; sins perpetrated against a god, atoned for by a god; fear of a beyond to which death is the portal; the form of the cross as a symbol in a time that no longer knows the function and ignominy of the cross --

2007-05-31 02:55:26 · 19 answers · asked by Dylan H 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

how ghoulishly all this touches us, as if from the tomb of a primeval past! Can one believe that such things are still believed?

2007-05-31 02:55:39 · update #1

how ghoulishly all this touches us, as if from the tomb of a primeval past! Can one believe that such things are still believed?

2007-05-31 02:55:40 · update #2

Nietzsche said it.

And oops, I made a mistake with the other details.

2007-05-31 02:56:29 · update #3

@Mariah:
Who said I agree with the quote? I'm asking what you thought of it, that's all.

Nietzsche wasn't a communist, you sound ignorant when you say that, and I don't "follow" him, I read his writing (translated, of course).

2007-05-31 03:03:45 · update #4

@Millie:

I don't "follow" Nietzsche. I don't know where you're coming out with that.

2007-05-31 03:08:11 · update #5

Norelief13:

Well, he did write in German. I'm not sure if it was him or the translator.

As for the theological stuff, would you care to give some examples?

2007-05-31 03:10:14 · update #6

Manoman:

Are you retarded? This isn't "my" teaching. How many times am I going to have to say that? This is a quote, that someone else wrote. _Not_ me.

2007-05-31 03:11:53 · update #7

Silas, are you saying that the Bible proves that Christianity is true?

2007-05-31 03:40:25 · update #8

19 answers

Great writer, amazing philospher, and batshit crazy, but syphillysis will do that to you.

A bit too bombastic at times, and certainly vitriolic and often dismissed as anti-semetic (he wasn't), Neitzsche's writings bear another look by many who would ignore him

2007-05-31 03:00:41 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 2

Just so you know, I quit reading after I read that "the proof of such a claim is lacking." I can see right at the onset, that this argument is another straw man tactic conjured up by somebody ignorant of history, uninformed, and all together lazy -- content to rest their claim upon another's beliefs or ideology.

I would plead with whomever made this claim to take the time and look into the history surrounding the bible. Read it and think about what is being presented. You cannot read bits and parts because so much of it is intertwined. Without the knowledge from the OT much of the meaning of the NT is lost Make an effort, otherwise don't make false accusations that engenders ill-informed concepts. None of us would like others to make false claims about ourselves, that's called libel, so don't make groundless claims against another's faith.

Most importantly, to whomever wrote this, allow space for the Spirit to work in you. You may be surprised.

2007-05-31 03:25:21 · answer #2 · answered by Silas Deane 2 · 0 0

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2016-09-05 17:39:39 · answer #3 · answered by mcclean 4 · 0 0

History proves this happened, because

the historians us the bible for dates and time

2 Never did Christ tell you to do away with

courts; He said for Christians not to sue

CHRISTIANS

3 Not His blood but acts of His blood and

you forgot His flesh... He didn't say

become a CANNIBAL EITHER

4 THE CROSS is not His representation

but People are convinced it is

The New Testament is His representation

and many don't follow it because of false

teachings such as yours.

2007-05-31 03:09:40 · answer #4 · answered by manoman 4 · 0 0

I'll believe the way I want to because of the free will and freedom to do so. I may not agree with what is stated but whoever wants to has the right to do so because of the same right of free will and freedom.

2007-05-31 03:15:02 · answer #5 · answered by Marvin R 7 · 1 0

I think you know absolutely nothing about the Bible because you take almost everything out of context and leave other scriptures out that clear up those areas.

2007-06-02 00:49:29 · answer #6 · answered by wordoflifeb216 3 · 0 0

What a pitiable passage is this. The Jew who was crucified 2000years ago is surely my Lord and saviour.He has saved me from evil and placed me a living testemony for him

2007-05-31 07:34:30 · answer #7 · answered by Francis Madurai 1 · 0 1

I think any god who needs a blood sacrafice in order to love me isn't worth my time.

2007-05-31 03:08:46 · answer #8 · answered by ~Heathen Princess~ 7 · 0 0

That Jew that was crucified two thousand years ago is my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. The heaven and the earth may pass away but His Word will never pass away.

2007-05-31 03:02:45 · answer #9 · answered by Jeancommunicates 7 · 3 2

Well, sure, Christianity is ridiculous, if you examine it!

Moral for "Christians": Don't examine it.

The best Christians, really, are the ones who compartmentalize, who separate their religion from the rest of their lives, who refuse to apply the principles of logic to their religious beliefs, but who also refrain from trying to make their religion "practical." Such people may be reasonable and intelligent; their Christianity is only a formality, a sort of capitulation to tradition.

The worst are the fundies, of course, who have been reduced to arguing that Noah took dinosaurs on board the Ark.

2007-05-31 02:58:53 · answer #10 · answered by jonjon418 6 · 2 5

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