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My brother has been in the military for over a year and has 3 years left. Ever since he has joined, he's been rather miserable and misses being at home and such. He wishes he could own his own house and have his job back and everything, but the military makes him live in the dorms. He's in the Air Force by the way. He was never given the job he wanted and he just hasn't been the same since he joined. He doesn't say much about it other than he doesn't like being in the Air Force. He says he just doesn't like his job but everything else is ok. What can he do to get out? I want to help him out. Can he see a chaplain or lie and say he will commit suicide? I know you can get out for medical reasons too and I've heard of other people getting out before. Please help....I hope they don't still own him for 3 years...thx

2007-05-31 02:02:19 · 19 answers · asked by Tim A 3 in Politics & Government Military

no we aren't twins unfortunately....wow not very many of you are very helpful. i guess that's the military for ya. i appreciate some of the answers though thx guys! he's a bigger man than most people. he joined and they fked him by not giving him a decent job...he's such a smart person and they couldn't simply give him a decent job...owell thx anyways

2007-05-31 02:20:47 · update #1

19 answers

First off lying is not the way to go. Your brother signed a contract and now he has to honor it. Have you ever heard, the old saying "Life is what you make of it!" Well your brother is going to have the make the best of his time left in the A.F. This is the first time ever, I have heard someone say they don't like the military, especially the A.F. The A.F. has the best of everything. Best jobs, best housing (even the dorms) and chow halls. When I was stationed in Korea, most A.F. personal lived like Kings. Their dorms in Korea were like an upscale hotel. Tell him to just wait it out. Three years really isn't that long. It will fly by. Best Wishes.

2007-05-31 03:49:55 · answer #1 · answered by ? 6 · 0 2

he can do one of two things: try to cross into a different job when he is able to(typically after 2 years) or he can can serve his remaining three years and go IRR for the last 4 years of his 8 year term.

the AF can't give people jobs that they want simply because they want them. there are a number of reasons why he didn't get it.. he could have failed to qualify for it..physically, or maybe couldn't get a security clearance. or they simply didn't have any room in the job he wanted.

Chaplians and Psychologitsts are trained toknwo the difference between someone who is truly suicidal and one who just says they are in order to get out.

it's called malingering, and that can get your brother into a WHOLE lotta trouble and make his life even more miserable than it is.

His best bet is to serve his time honorable.

we've been in 12 years and still don't have a home, so i know what it's like.. but he can be using this time to save up a nice hefty chunk of change for a downpayment, then use his VA benmnoies toget a good loan when he does get out.

2007-05-31 04:13:23 · answer #2 · answered by Mrsjvb 7 · 1 1

Going to the Chaplain is a good first step, but he should not say anything that is not sincere. Like SUICIDE. If he says this and they think that he may try this, he could be incarcerated for his on protection. The Military has different rules than we do in world. He should also talk to his immediate superiors, they may know of an early discharge program that is available to him. I got out in 1973 on a humanitarian discharge with honorable condition, so I know that it was possible then. GOOD LUCK

2007-05-31 02:12:33 · answer #3 · answered by GRUMPY1LUVS2EAT 5 · 1 0

I have a feeling that my answer will be the same as many on here...


Tell him to get over himself and stick it out. Telling lies to get out of the military is a cowardly thing to do, has no honor, and is a disgrace to those of us who are serving or have served. I spent 4 years in the active Army and for the most part didn't like my job...but guess what? I made it through, and have had a very satisfying career in the Army Reserve since then.

The Air Force, for the most part, has it good...I would have loved to stay in a "dorm" when I was in the Army, rather than my rat-hole barracks.


Anyway, back to your question...my experience tells me that if he wants an honorable discharge, he'll have to stick it out. Getting out early from the military, under most circumstances at BEST will give you "general under honorable circumstances" which isn't as good.

2007-05-31 02:08:59 · answer #4 · answered by Robert N 4 · 2 1

For your information, your brother signed a contract with the USAF. They promised to train him in a job, feed him, house him, give him free medical and dental, and pay him. He agreed to work for the USAF for 4 years. The contract signed is legal and binding. He has a variety of options, but the only way for him to get out of the USAF with an honorable discharge is to finish his 4 years.

Sorry, but there is no "help" for your brother. He signed the contract. That he didn't get the job "he wanted" shows that he should have gotten the job guaranteed in writing. (oh, wait, the USAF doesn't do that). That he "wishes he could own his own house", there is nothing stopping him from that except his funding. If he wants to buy a house, then he can go buy one. People get out of the military for LEGITIMATE reasons. Lies will be found out, and then he will just be punished and still have to do his time.

Yeah, they still "own" him for 3 years.

2007-05-31 03:55:22 · answer #5 · answered by My world 6 · 2 1

Anything that'll get him an early out is going to earn him a "General" discharge.

The Honorable discharge is for service members who fulfill their obligation that they agreed to in a contract. There are very few exceptions.

also, any threats of personal harm will earn him a trip to the psyc-ward and make this alot worse.

the Air Force is the least demanding of the services, they rely on technologie to get the job done, he isn't living in the dirt, he's got air conditioning in summer, heat in the winter, 3 meals a day, a bed, medical, dental, vision care 30 days leave a year and paid training.

He needs to suck it up, I bet he was treated like a hero when he told the family that he was joining up, everyone so proud of him and patting him on the back. Now he needs to earn it, not for you, but for him. Don't let him start down a path of failure this early in life. it will haunt him.

2007-05-31 02:27:05 · answer #6 · answered by The Forgotten 6 · 1 1

Sorry, but for the next 3 years he'll have to stick it out. The fact is,no direspect or anything,but your brother knew what he was getting himself into. But, the Air Force is one of the best and safest services to join. Its not like he's sleeping in foxholes and bullets/bombs are flyin over his head. At least he has a job and somewhere to lay his head Comfortably. My advice is to tell your brother to suck it up,and it'll be over before he'll know it. He'll leave with an Honorable discharge and his pride too. Good Luck!!!
p.s. he should've went to the Navy!!!LOL

2007-05-31 02:57:37 · answer #7 · answered by C.Hall 2 · 1 1

The fact is that your brother made an agreement, and signed a contract. there are no guaranteed " shortcuts out with honorable discharge" . unless the USAF actually broke their agreement with him. honestly we all have to live with the mistakes we make in life. that's part of being a man. The best thing your brother can do is stick it out till his ETS date IMO.
He signed the contract and unless the Air Force has not kept their end of the agreement he owes that to them. I know the military is not for everyone , but that is why the contracts are not lifetime no one can force him to reenlist, by the same token no one forced him to enlist in the first place. 3 years isn't that long in the grand scheme of life best of luck to you and your brother .

2007-05-31 02:20:10 · answer #8 · answered by vicsfury 2 · 0 1

the only way to get an honorable is to fullfill your obligation! people who lie and puss-out dont deserve an honorable anything! my husband spent 8 years in the submarine navy and it is men like him that keep our country safe! its time for your brother to cut the cord and be a man. he shouldnt have assumed that he would have the best job the air force has to offer when he first joined. if he does the job he has now, and does it well, he may be able to get a better one soon. he signed a contract. be true to your word.

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