christians,HOW MANY of you agree with what this person said?

Question

"True Christians are moral.

Athiests and non-Christians are devoid on any sort of moral compass. They might put on a show in public but watch what they do in private. "

if you DO agree,then how is it NOT arrogant,condescending,ru de and utterly judgemental to say things like that?


*also,there are MANY religions much older than yours and christianity has a large track record for people claiming to be christians and misusing it,while other religions have not been so.so how can you say all non christians don't have a moral compass?*again,this is directed at those who agree with this.

Answer 1

As a Christian, I don't agree with that at all. I know some very morally wonderful people who don't believe in God (or agnostic) and catholics who are very immoral. What we do in private is exactly that ~private. But let's not forget, (if there is a) God knows what we do in private. Knows our thoughts, intentions and our loyalties. We do not have to prove anything to anyone, I think that is what we get caught up in.

Answer 2

I don't agree with the logic, or with the substance of the argument.

The logical form is "A implies B, therefore not A implies not B." This is a classical error and reflects illogic. Morality is not exclusive of adherents to Christianity, even by Christian understanding. It has long been held by mainstream Christian beliefs that morality is an imperative bestowed upon human beings by the nature of being created in God's image, regardless of the personal religious beliefs of the individual.

It's interesting that the author describes using "any type of moral compass" but clearly only relies upon a single one him- or herself. A moral compass can say "Obey the 10 Commandments" or "Live the Beatitudes" or "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law" or "Golden Rule". Clearly, morality is subjective (I can hardly imagine Madelyn Murray O'Hare agreeing with Alesteir Crowley on their choices of moral compass), and therefore there is both disagreement on correctness as well as agreement on salience.

Answer 3

I think that there are some people who call themselves christians, but in reality have no clue what they believe and are hypocritical. And this is because this religion was created by Man. Jesus was a Jew, not a Christian.

However, I think that some atheists are way too sensitive and probably ignorant themselves and, maybe aren't really atheists, just call themselves that on yahoo answers to bash other religions, espeically Christianity. Although it seems to me that alot of them have morals and have a belief system. I understand where they are coming from, but I don't totally agree.

I think everyone is born with a blank slate. They learn what to believe from living life. Not from soley from going by what a book, a person or their parents said. It's everything around them.

I think the person who said that wanted to stir something up.

Answer 4

I do not agree with that persons statement. Christians are held to a righteous( Godly) moral standard. To make a claim that others have no moral compass is not true. Their's MAY not be as high as God's standards. Christians are not excluded from what sins they are capable of committing in private. All fall short of the Glory of God , even believers continue to need forgiveness of future sins.

It is an ignorant boast of someone who puts himself on a platform and fools himself of his knowledge of man and the remaining capacity of sin even in believers. Discard what he says for I hear no compassion or love in his false boast.

Answer 5

I agree with the part that "true" christians are moral, but I disagree with the part about atheists and non-christians being devoid. They may not believe in God or that Christ is the Son of God, but that has nothing to do with their morality. Also realize that what you said about people claiming to be christians and misusing it is true, but then again they are not "true" christians.

Answer 6

True Christians are saved, becoming moral is not being a Christian. The bible, salvation and the Holy Spirit help a Christian, however, being moral is not what makes you a Christian. That can only be achieved through the death of Jesus.

Answer 7

Absolutely wrong.

Atheists and non-Christians have as their "moral compass" what we call the social contract -- a group of general rules we follow as a society in order to get along with each other and not constantly be at each others' throats.

If anything, I'd say it's the Christians -- particularly ones higher up in the church heirarchy -- who use their myth about forgiveness as a blank check to commit all sorts of deplorable behavior, convinced that afteward their Invisible Sky Daddy will pat them on the head and say, "It's OK, I give you permission..."

Answer 8

I don't agree with it. I am a Christian.

I think that those who say things like that are troubled. They have an expectation that we have an obligation to be 'sinless' in other people's eyes. I do not care how others see me. I'd rather them see me as a sinner like them. And that's because it's true. I am only saved because I trust God through Jesus Christ. That makes me what I am, and starts the whole thing rolling as far as being a vessle of the Holy Spirit. I trust God to do what he said he would do. He promises the Holy Spirit to dwell in me, and I am then guided, as I trust him. It's axiomatic.

So I care less what others see me as, and more interested in what God sees in me. And outside of the covering of Christ, I am an immoral, unethical picture of filth to him. I guess you can say that keeps me humble.

Answer 9

it's rude, but not judgemental or arrogant. that's just what they believe. not really condescending.

by my standards, this is not a 100% statement, but close. everyone has a compass (your conscience), but the needle only points. it can't make you go there. non-Christians may not be devoid of morals entirely, but by my standards practicing (not just doing it once, doing it repeatedly and regularly) atleast one kind of sin makes you an immoral person. rejecting Christ is a sin.

whoa, check your facts. I know lots of people who claim to be a religion and abuse it. I meet lots of people who misrepresent their religion. need I talk about the US of A's earlier 21st century problems? people misrepresenting their religions.

Answer 10

Hey! I'm immoral! Who knew?

This is so silly. I mean, all of this "true Christians" thing is such crap.

If Christian = Christ-like and Christ-like = "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone," then all of these people talking about this person and that not being a "true Christian" must not themselves be true Christians.

Even when it *is* logical, it sounds convoluted.