How do you Global Warming alarmists explain the warming of Neptune which has been going on since 1980?

Question

There are no CO2 gases building, no cows, no planes, no deforrestation? All the evidence points to the warming trend of our sun. Isn't there some way Al Gore can find to blame us here on Earth for it?

Answer 1

We've been studying Neptune for about 20 years, maybe? Do you honestly think that is an adequate enough time-frame to judge whether there is a climate change happening there?

I think maybe you should try another argument, rather than a planet we cannot accurately measure...


Edit* Hold on a second, Truth. Unless I'm mistaken, we've been living on Earth for the past few million years, and we also have access to materials that can tell us about the climate.

Now I may not have been good at at math, but I'm pretty sure millions>20.

Answer 2

How do you explain the fact that only a few bodies in the Solar System are warming.

There are plenty of reasons that planets change temperature. But, BECAUSE OF THE DATA, the scientific community is agreed - the present warming on Earth is mostly caused by us.

http://www.globalwarmingart.com/wiki/Image:Climate_Change_Attribution.png

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change

"I wasn’t convinced by a person or any interest group—it was the data that got me. I was utterly convinced of this connection between the burning of fossil fuels and climate change. And I was convinced that if we didn’t do something about this, we would be in deep trouble.”

Vice Admiral Richard H. Truly, USN (Ret.)
Former NASA Administrator, Shuttle Astronaut and the first Commander of the Naval Space Command

Good websites for more info:

http://profend.com/global-warming/

http://www.realclimate.org

"climate science from climate scientists"

Answer 3

Please submit a source approximately Neptune heating up. the reason I say this is via the fact anybody keeps claiming distinctive planets are heating up just to stir the pot. Neptune is a gasoline planet. you're comparing our planet to absolutely distinctive planet. that's the version in ecosystem and composition. that's like employing the storms in Jupiter to foretell climate kinds right here on earth, it does no longer make experience. i think of human beings ought to end making excuses approximately different planets and get at the back of a answer to strengthen our ecosystem. pollution is barely getting worse and there is not any way any can say that pumping each and all the gasoline and emissions into our ecosystem is robust for the planet. Why no longer artwork to strengthen the ecosystem? Is it by using fact your loyalty to social gathering strains won't make it easier to think of rationally?

Answer 4

I think you might have meant to say Saturn - Neptune is cooling due to increased reflectivity. If it wasn't for this increased reflectivity then Neptune would have been warming for one simple reason - summertime.

Neptune has an axiat ilt of just under 30 degrees which means that like our own planet (23.5 degrees) it is tilted towards the sun. This is why we have seasons, why it's warmer in summer than in winter and why Australia has summer when America has winter.

Neptune also has seasons but becuase it's orbital period is 164.8 years, each 'season' lasts for 41.2 years. In short - Neptune would be warming because it's summer and this warming would be restricted to those parts of the planet inclined towards the sun.

There's warming on a handful of other planets and moons in the solar system but no warming on the vast majority of them. In every case of warming it's due to circumstances unique to the individual planet / moon.

The sun is not the cause, if it were all planets and moons would be warming, there would be no cooling like there is on some bodies, and the warming would be relative to the distance from the sun.

I don't know why you say all the evidence points to the sun, none of it points to the sun. In fact, it points to anything but the sun.

Answer 5

Perhaps if you'd bothered to stay awake in 5th grade science class, you'd know the following:
1)what happens on another planet has nothing to do with Earth
2)Global warming can have multiple causes--CO2 is not the only one
3) Real scientists examined all kinds of possible causes before determining that the CURRENT global warming was caused by human-generated CO2 emissions.

Consequently, every time one of you "skeptics" comes with some stupid "alternative explanation"--you're just yapping about something scientists already checked--and so showing how ignorant you are. LMAO

BTW: most people realize this is a serious matter--and the fake "skeptics" can whine all they want. Do you really think anyonegives a d~mn what you say when their kid's future is at stake?

Answer 6

Comparing Earth to Neptune is like comparing apples to tennis balls... Neptune has a different composition, has no water, no life form, it is seventeen Earth masses, further from the sun, has rings, more closely related to the gas giants than earth.

Earth Composition:

78.08% N2
20.95% O2
0.93% Argon
0.038% Carbon dioxide
Trace water vapor (varies with climate)

Neptune Composition:

80% ± 3.2% hydrogen - H2
19% ± 3.2% helium - He
1.5% ± 0.5% methane - CH4
192 ppm hydrogen deuteride - HD
1.5 ppm ethane - C2H6

Why is it so difficult to look at the past climate trends here on Earth and see the unprecedented changes that have occurred in the last millennium?

Answer 7

Well wait Count, what's good for the goose.....

By your logic, we can't even say there IS global warming on earth.

Let's be honest here - there's warming here and in other parts of the solar system.

And somehow, some way, it must be Bush's fault!

Answer 8

Yes I Believe So !!!

Answer 9

Maybe the sun is having a stroke
are the two events of Neptune and Earth automatically linked

Who decided that ,did you??

Are you trying to sell us the idea that mankind is NOT screwing the planet up ,because we are

If the Sun also decides to have a go ,so be it .
Global warming is very popular in the cosmos ,Mars is also getting in on the act .

But still even if all the planets start to melt ,this does not absolve Humanity from the damage they are doing to our Environment

WHO OR WHAT IS TO BLAME

Irresponsible Agriculture , expanding populations and its effects are the planets biggest enemies.

This text only covers some aspects of Climate change ,i.e.effects of deforestation and subsequent man made desertification ,because of irresponsible farming using chemicals ,over pumping carbon aquifers,over grazing ,wild fires (because of slash and burn gone out of control).

Water and air polution ,such as caused by
industrial contamination ,the contaminating effects of the cities(the internal combustion engine) ,are other stories.

All of these are also man made ,such as the high industrial chimneys pumping contamination into the clouds and the burning of tires,some of this polution has been found in the ice in the polar regions.

There are natural cycles in the planets life
but a lot is influenced by mans existance ,this is increasing with overpopulation,putting strains on Natural resources and increasing contaminations .

The thinner ozone layer helps to speed this up. This is caused mainly by air polution ,also as a result of mans actions.

In North Africa,India,Mexico ,millions of people are effected by land loss , desertification and some have died as a result.

Now many animals are becoming sick because of changes in temperature .
Vital links in the food chains are disapearing affecting other species further along in the chain .

We are witness to a mass exstinction ,for the first time since the dinosaurs.
Of the earth's estimated 10 million species, 300,000 have vanished in the past 50 years.
Each year, 3,000 to 30,000 species become extinct.

Everything is happening so fast it is not possible to monitor things any more.

The Sahara is growing by 7 kilometers a year.
Most of the desserts are as a results of mans actions.And they are increasing .In the dinosaurs days ,there were few desserts.

Collectively this planet is drying up .

Each degree rise in temperature means 10%crop loss

There is less and less water (because of deforestation),to irrigate Agriculture.

Arable lands and their farms are lost all over the globe. Many farmers sons abandon farming and head for the cities.

Northern China is drying up, what once were millions of food producing people, are now hungry refugees ,running for their lives from the all consuming dust storms.

This will have a great effect on world food prices when they start buying at what ever cost, to feed their people.

The farmers that are left have to feed some 70 million more people than the year before but with less topsoil(because of desertification and irreverible erosion)

Over the last half century,
Population growth & rising incomes have tripled world grain demand from 640 million tons to 1,855 million

In the near future the global farming community will not be able to feed every body ,food prices will continue to rise. .

RISING SEAS
The northpole is melting ,and we will know it without ice in our life times.
This does not affect the sea level ,because it is ice that is already in the water.but the melting ice from Green land and the south pole ,and the Glaziers is potable water lost forever and rises the sea levels.

Are We responsible ?
Is it the Sun?
Is it God who wants to punish us?
Is it Gaia who wants to clean some parasitic infestation?
Is it a Natural cycle?

Who cares ? that is not important any more
WHAT IS important -is that we are gonna be in trouble

WHAT CAN WE DO????????????????

The best we can do as individuals is be more responsible ,in our own neck of the woods

Organise well publicized clean up parties ,talk on the radio,hold citizan meetings, get the shools involved to plant trees and listen to environmental awareness talks.

If you do any cleaning up ,leave signs behind saying who cleaned,why and ask people not to start dumping rubbish again ,leave a hole or bins ,in case people come back with trash ,and they always do.

We have done a lot of comunity cleaning and if you dont leave alternatives or try to work on peoples guilt feelings (some people actually have those ,but not many) ,than your efforts are a waste of time.

That is what we do in Mexico.

POSITIVE ACTIONS
Print Tshirts with slogans ,hang posters all over the place (with recycled paper if possible).

Classify trash, take out all the organic waste and make compost with it ,the worst you can do is throw it with the trash,or burn it .

70% of contamination is due to organic waste that is mixed in with the garbage .
and it is just as bad in the sewer where it helps to breed rats and in the landfill it poisons the ground .

This is the easiest to take care of .

First of all we have to clasify trash ,at least keep the organic to one side ,like in a plastic bin with a lid .

If you got a few meters of ground ,you only need 1 or 2 square meters in a shallow hole ,(in the shade) ,that you can wet now and again .

Where you dump everything that is organic .
Toilet paper,bones vegetable cuttings ,eggshells,
deadbodies ,excrement ,cardboard,leaves,
shredded paper,old clothes (if they are organic),

Cover regularly with leaves or a piece of plastic,
to keep humid and to hide any smell .
REGULARLY spray some water over it ,but do not saturate it or the worms will die or leave.
The worms will decompose the wastes, turning it into beautifull black soil for the garden of flower pots .

If you are in a apartment ,if you have a balcony get a big plastic bin drill some holes in the side and lid ,

and add a few buckets of sand now and again to put over the trash ,you should realy stir or move the stuff at times to airate it ,and ensure that the decomposition is even ,keep moist

this rubbish does not get big very fast and the thing works for a long time with out getting full

----------------------Some more Positive thoughts
Global warming cannot be stopped but being friendlier to our Environment cannot be bad and maybe we buy some time.

If you want to help the planet ,plant a tree every week ,if everyone on the planet did we we would be able to slowdown the destructive processes.

Reduce carbon emisions,and they are already working on that ,by alternative forms of energy We need more regulations on carbon production.
Dont use aerosol cans,
Dont burn trash
Limit water use
Recicling wastes.

AGRICULTURE must invest in
Waterharvesting projects ,(such as thousands of small dams).to redirect over ground waterflows from the rains into the ground to supply subteranian water supplies.

Assist the capture of carbon and the production of water by promoting Reforestation.

The world bank pays large subsidies for reforrestation to capture carbon and the best tree for this is the Pawlonia .

Agricultural education and improvements to follow the principals of sustainability and soil management

GOVERNMENT
The protection of existing forrests.
Stop building more highways,
Urban planning to include vegetation
Stop building cities encourage people to return to the land to conduct their business from there ,which now has become possible thanks to the internet.

More environmental or land ,design to prevent bush fires,such as--fire breaks .
More dams,regulations and control for public behaviour.
Alternative effeciant public transport to discourage the use of the internal conbustion engine.

SCHOOL SYSTEMS
Education to motivate people to auto sufficiency by building more home food gardens.
Education on environmental awareness.
Education on family planning ,to curb overpopulation.

Here are a 100 more ways
http://www.eco-gaia.net/forum-pt/index.p...

Answer 10

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming