Martial Arts Training?

Question

I have always wanted exclusive and authentic martial arts training. I don't mean the stupid schools that a million people go to and take classes. I want the kind of training you see in the movies (which makes me think it doesn't exist). Like training in a remote asian town with some old master who will teach you everything in non-stop training for a year or 2. Like the drunken master training or that kind of thing. Does this exist? If so where and how can I get down? I just want one on one private muay thai or wushu or something else training. Lemmmme know... thanks

I realize I sound like a childish moron. I just dunno, can't let go of the fantasy heh.

If anyone knows a place of any kind where I could this please let me know. I'm ready to drop everything in life and go for however long it takes.

Answer 1

Ok, first off Training "in china" or "in japan" or "in swhahili" is not going to be a good idea.

Karate kid is a myth- actually in reality thraining with the old man in that movie was a perfect example of ineffective "fake" training in real martial arts.

Here are some things to think about:

1- you go to "china/japan/delaware", you are a peice of trash among all the other students who are likely recieving training from a "higher up" student, NOT the teacher. You will likely have to "bribe" them to even let you deal with the teacher, or teach you properly. You go there you are a rich american (forigner) and they will take you for your money and still they won't likely train you properly.

2- I don't think this is financially feasible anymore however you will get much better training if you fly them here and put them up. Sounds crazy? Whats the bigger deal to them. Some snot-nosed american who wants to come there to train so they can brag about training "traditionally" (which doesn't necessarily mean its any good- traditions need to be dumped with the times too otherwise it is "art", "classical music" or "religion"- not fighting, but thats another story),

OR

Him coming here, saying "I went to america to specially train someone, they heard about me and my fame and skill all the way in america"- he can brag about that AND you are paying them to come over.

Yes, this takes MONEY, but so does travelling and bieng a layabout in another country for two years. I would be willing to bet you that you would learn more from 6 months of option "B" from the same teacher (providing he is any good), than you will from option "A" in five years.

Also there is another thing to think about.

Is private training really better?
One benefit of a class with multple students (not a mill atmosphere where you get no personal attention) is that you get to try out techniques on a number of different people and different body types WHO REACT DIFFERENTLY JUST LIKE IN A REALISTIC SITUATION.

You staying here also permits you to WORK and have a life.

Answer 2

Can they reduce, diminish, or disable, the wiring? I'm not sure that I would put it that way. I would lean more to changing or rewiring for the better... because I want to. But if one can happen, then it is only logical that the other can too. Below is my reasoning for the changing whichever way it may go. Instinctual behavior can indeed be changed with consistent physical exercises and psychological influencing. The point of martial art training is to make adjustments to the student's physical instinctual reactions. This is why there must be the consistent training, it is what adjusts the spinal responses to the different types of physical stimuli. This is why even if the person behaves in the manner of fearing any form of fighting will automatically respond once the physical threat has impacted them. (This takes place because the response route runs from the sensation to the spine and back, completely leaving out the brain and it's 'necessary' computations and assessment of the situation.) I hear time and time again, even from the 'masters' of systems saying that martial arts train in the natural behavior for self defense. That is absolutely untrue. If martial arts were natural responses, we would NOT have to work so much at it to become proficient. We would also not have to work consistently to keep the skills gained. I do feel that the adult neurological responses to situations that are lightly threatening to mortally threatening are much more difficult to influence or change, because they are not only born instinct, but also 'trained' instinct based off of the societal influence forming the thought chain and synaptic pathways. In younger people (children) the instinctual pathways can be influenced easier than adults. That is because they are still forming their processes or synaptic pathways. In adults more of a 'brainwashing' approach must be taken to make the adjustments, because they have already formed their 'permanent' thought processes. It is possible, and we've seen it happen throughout society, most notably when dealing with cults, or some form of religious extremism. It is also used in many fiction stories involving military and other secret organizations, which are somewhat based off of rumor of events that have taken place in history. The synaptic paragraph is where I get more of a no to your question. It takes an almost religious devotion to the martial arts, and a 100% commitment to survival to be able to adjust one's own instincts; and this is not something the majority of martial artists do. (NOTE: The majority is all inclusive, the world over. There are many who do, and they would be yes, but there are still enough to be a no.) Ultimately, I don't see martial arts as diminishing or changing a notion such as the one the of the man dying to save his son in a negative manner. I say this because of the moral influence of the most renowned martial art societies, (East Asian). It is taught in these systems that truth, and just actions in all behavior, as well as sacrificing one self for another is honorable, and will repay the soul in this and the next life. People more often than not aspire to these teachings in the martial arts, as opposed to pure self preservation and a solely objective outlook on life forgoing any attempt to help another in need.

Answer 3

Here are a couple of ideas.
There is a program in China to teach Shaolin kung fu. You go there for a certain amount of time to learn the arts. Its a very straight forward plan that covers your lodging , food , and training expenses. The bad point is you would be learning in a class type enviornment.
The other choice would be to find a Muay thai, or Muay boran instructor in Thailand who will train you for a set amount of money for a set time. The problem with this is expenses like food and possibly lodging.
Either would be fun, the problem would be if you haven't lived abroad before. The cultural differences and social differences can be a bit much for some people.

Answer 4

With the advent of guns and modern technology, the need for true Masters in the fighting arts is gone and the fighting styles taught by Master to apprentice has become somewhat obsolete. But I'm sure there are still villages and hamlets in China where you can find a Master who still teaches his family's style of Kung Fu. Just don't expect it to be as effective today as it was in the past centuries during his ancestor's time. As for Muay Thai, if I remember right, it is primarily promoted as a competitive sport(meaning most fighters train to fight as a pro in the ring) and therefore group training is encouraged to help develop the experience of fighting diverse opponents thru sparring.

Answer 5

The type of training you are looking for does exist. The teachers that train in this fashion are very selective about their students. They are usually very private people and do not openly advertise. They gain their students through community recommendation or by work of mouth. A good place to look would be San Fancisco in China Town, or New York in China Town.
These are good places to start.

Answer 6

Movies are make believe. In reality there are some remote monasteries where it is something like you describe, but you had better have a lot of training & be in top shape before you even THINK about going to 1 of them.

Answer 7

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Answer 8

Actually there is place. Look up the word UCHIDESHI under google and see what you can find. But do not expect their lifestyle like a movie, it is a hard simple life that not too many people can do it. Reality is FAR from an entertainment.

Answer 9

but it's fun training with other people.

Answer 10

You can check here: http://okinawakenpokarate.com/history.asp

http://www.okinawa-budou.org/