Liberals, you do understand why Canada can afford universal health care?

Question

Isn't it a bit easier when you count on the U.S. as your military?

Doogie: yeah the same military that protected your freedom through two world wars and stood toe to toe with an impressive Soviet nuclear arsenal in the 80's. Maybe you should try to get a job instead of waiting around for the government to take care of you.

JAKE S: If by "punching me in the face" you mean they will wait for an American to do it, then you make my point for me. It's no slam on Canada (and they weren't the first on the shores of Europe btw) if I were them I would be laughing at the fact I don't have to subsidize a military and can get free protection from the US.

Master...: Who do you know in America has EVER been denied treatment? What a pitiful excuse.

BASE: So when you have nothing smart to add, you just resort to blaming the war in Iraq, typical...

KIZIAH: I'm all for revamping the system and studying it. But, I don't think universal health care is the answer.

Rja - When has an American you know of, been denied health care?

FISH 1: My degree was in History, so right back at you, unless you can cite your claim don't bother with it.

Answer 1

SO RIGHT YOU ARE.
They know if they ever get bombed we'll be there to help (and when I say HELP - I mean do it entirely) them pick up the pieces.

Answer 2

I doubt that universal health care coverage (or "socialized medicine") would be as tragic for the U.S. as its detractors answering this question make out. It's an unfortunate fact of life that any enterprise--health care, the criminal justice system, road building--is a trade-off between what you can afford to do and what would be ideal. None of us has infinite time, money or resource. In Canada, the state rations health care; in the U.S., private insurers ration health care. The difference is that the state is at least theoretically responsible to its citizens, whereas an insurance company is only responsible to its shareholders. If there are delays in getting a heart transplant in Canada, I suspect that the delays have more to do with the shortage of available donors than anything inherent in universal medical coverage. My own experience in getting a necessary operation has been positive. I had a detached retina--a medical emergency that, if not taken care of, leads to blindness in that eye. My opthalmologist normally has a waiting period of several months. When I mentioned that I thought I had a detached retina, I was given an appointment the next day. Upon confirming that it was, indeed, a detached retina, my opthalmologist had me booked for an operation the day after I saw him. From the time that I thought I had the problem to the time I received an operation to fix it was a period of only two days. I doubt that one could do any better in the U.S. This also happened in the province of Alberta, which had a neoconservative government that was itching to ape America's approach to health care here and that had gone a considerable distance in lowering the quality and capacity of the health care system.

Answer 3

Our healthcare system needs a complete overhaul. There are too many people with their fingers in the pie. If we were to rework the system and put it under one agency instead of having the different states control their own systems and the federal government controlling medicare we could probably provide healthcare to all of our citizens. There is so much waste at present. And the cost of medication is a crime. Why is medication cheaper in Canada? Why are Americans paying for all the R & D that the drug companies do? All of these things need serious study and analysis.

Answer 4

Not true... Canada has its own military, try learning something sometime. And why do all of you think with our vast health care providers in this country (meaning hospitals, med centers, etc..) do you act like these places are going to close and all the doctors are going to leave? We are second to a third world nation in the rankings of the worlds health care systems. And hey Canada is higher than us and so is that country called France, they have universal health care and are number 1 in the world. Can't be all that bad can it? Should we continue to promote our ideals when they are this bad...how do we get off acting like we are the greatest when we can't even take care of our own....what do we say to these countries we tell how to live..... Hey Iraq, be like us and have horrible health care for all your citizens and allow anyone involved in health care to rip you off daily...come on try it out, it's great. Why are nations going to listen to us on how to run a country when we can hardly run our own?

Edit to you.. actually yes the Canadians were the first on the shores on D-Day...learn history.

Answer 5

How do they afford it? I wonder myself. The citizens pay high taxes on alot of things-- provincial taxes, VAT, high income taxes, etc. And top that off with issues with access to care.

They don't really rely on the US as their military. Very few people/countries want to attack Canada-- Why? They mind their own business fo rthe most part and don't stick their nose where it doesn't belong. They don't try to play policeman to the world-- but this is an entirely different discussion.

Answer 6

They have made a national commitment that maintaining a healthy population is in the National Interest. Many poorer countries world wide have made a similar commitment to their people. A society is judged by how it cares for All of its peoplenot just the few. The difference is simply that there is greater profit in the US Sick Care system than in true Health Care.

Answer 7

But $300 dollars a month for $10 off your $120 prescription is better than say sputtering in a war that has done nothing for America. Iraq has pulled us ever deeper in a region of chaos only to cause further chaos. Did you know that Osama and the boys actually stated this as a goal to draw us into the big battle with Iran. George must have read it word for word cause he damn sure is meeting their overall goals

Answer 8

Yes, the US has 11times greater GDP and 17.7% higher GDP per capita along with a higher death, multiple times higher population, along with a number of other factors that contribute to their quality of life.

So the substantiation for your argument is what, exactly?

I didn't think so. Check the link, you'll learn something.

Answer 9

Because All older Americans buy their prescription drugs there?


FYI Canada is our biggest military Allies and was the first country to storm the beaches of Hitler's Europe.

Lay off our friendly neighbors to the North before one of them punches you in your face.



EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_2_Canada
Read the history of it and get back to me if you are man enough.

1.1 million Canadians served in WW2 and over 40,000 died in that war. A greater percentage than the United States.

FYI:The Dieppe Raid, also known as The Battle of Dieppe or Operation Jubilee, during World War II, was an Allied attack on the German-occupied port of Dieppe, Seine-Maritime on the Northern coast of France on August 19, 1942. Over 6,000 infantrymen, predominantly Canadian, were supported by large British naval and Allied air force contingents. The objective was to seize and hold a major port for a short period, both to prove it was possible and to gather intelligence from prisoners and captured materials while assessing the German responses. The raid was also intended to use air power to draw the Luftwaffe into a large, planned encounter.

The raid was generally considered to be an unmitigated tactical disaster, with no major objectives accomplished. 3,623 of the 6,086 men who made it ashore were either killed, wounded, or captured. The Allied air forces failed to lure the Luftwaffe into open battle, and lost 119 planes, while the Royal Navy suffered 555 casualties. The catastrophe at Dieppe may have later influenced Allied preparations for


EDIT2: YOU WANT SOMETHING RECENT.
Following the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001 in the United States, Canada was the third largest contributor to the invasion of Afghanistan, after the United States and the United Kingdom. Of the approximately 15,000 Canadian troops who have been stationed in Afghanistan, 2,500 remain as the standard complement as part of the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF).

Answer 10

Universal health care is expensive but worth it, the tax burden in the UK is very high but i gladly pay into what funds the national health service. People shouldnt be denied the right to a doctor just because they are poor, american dream my ****.