Obama's universal health plan to cost $50 BILLION to $65 BILLION per year! Who's going to pay?

Question

A CONSERVATIVE estimate of Obama's proposal for universal health care puts the tab at $50 billion to $65 billion per year. Should taxpayers pay the tab for other's health care, including those already getting "entitlements" and illegal aliens?

Answer 1

Nobody if we don't vote for him!!

So, let's not vote for Obama. He plans to repeal the tax cuts. Not only are we going to lose our jobs as the economy nosedives from tax increases, our government debt is about to explode because healthcare costs cannot be contained.

Look at the immigrants from the other countries that have universal healthcare coverage coming HERE, to the U.S., for healthcare treatment. That should tell Democrats something, but it doesn't seem to.

Universal healthcare DOES NOT WORK!!!

Answer 2

"Who's going to pay?"

Good question! The best part was when he said that people that already have insurance will be paying LESS under his plan.

So, let's see if I've got this right: my very high insurance premiums are going down and the presently uninsured are gonna be covered. What's not to like?!? Besides the fact that it sounds waayyyyy too good to be true.

No, the reality of ANY universal health coverage plan is that overall costs will go up and existing coverage will go DOWN. I will be paying at least as much as I would have without universal health care and, one way or the other, some procedures will be unavailable to me - either because I would have had to pay even higher premiums to qualify for them or because cramming 45 million more people into the system simply doesn't leave room for everyone who wants or needs a procedure to be performed. Can you spell r-a-t-i-o-n-i-n-g?

BTW, how do you say "One hundred thousand nurses short nationwide (as of January, 2007), importing English-speaking nurses from AROUND the globe 'cause we don't graduate anywhere near enough, a large percentage of current American nurses are baby boomers (i.e., ready to retire now or soon), and just who is it that's gonna provide all this additional health care?"

I think Obama should work on his math - I'd say it's more like $250 - $265 billion a year. Now, how are we gonna pay for that with Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security on the path to meltdown? Not to mention the nation's 50-100 year old infrastructure that will HAVE to be rebuilt over the next generation.

One thing I know for sure: the current crop of pols in DC aren't up to the job of leading us out of the financial morass created by their promises that have no cash to back 'em up.

Answer 3

That's the first year,after that it will go up,in 5 years it'll be 100 Billion.
Not pretty enough to get the high paying "Johns".
Get a new face,boob job,butt job, liposuction at tax payer expense.
Don't like the sex you were born with?
Get it changed at tax payer expense.
Having another illegitimate kid,have it aborted at tax payer expense.
Any and all of us who work for a living are going to end up footing the bill and the cost is going to be high.

Do you do anything even a little RISKY,play sports,hunt,fish,drive a car, smoke,drink,eat fattening foods ?
Gee,if Government is paying your bills,they can make you stop or lose your health care,but not the bill.

Do you really want to give government that kind of power over your life?

Answer 4

The sad part is that we are already paying for universal health care. Hospitals cannot turn away patients, and when those patients do not pay, or they cannot be billed because of bogus addresses or socials, we all see the costs in our own premiums/bills. To federalize it would only mean more taxes . . . does this mean that all other charges will be decreased? unlikely. I am uninsured, but pay the price when I need to see the doctor. It's pathetic how the honest hard working individuals in this country get penalized so that all others can live off the system.

Answer 5

What does it solve? Why does it cost so much? Where is the money going?

No one, and I mean no one has framed this discussion in terms of a real problem. Proponents of socialized medicine make outrageous claims but do not support those with fact. And they refuse to acknowledge two facts that make a moot point of their arguments for increasing costs without increasing my benefits.

One, ALL people in AMerica today can get medical attention 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year. If you need medical attention, you go to a hospital ER and you will receive care. It is that simple, so stating that people are not able to get healthcare is a blatant LIE.

Two, when you go to the ER you will be asked questions about your ability to pay, when you tell them you have little money and no insurance, they do not escort you out the door, they treat you and send you on your way. You do not have to have the ability to pay to get treatment. Now if you drive up in a nice set of wheels and sit around talking with your buds on your fancy cell phone, then the hospital has every right to escort you out the door, because if you can afford luxuries, then you can afford to pay for your healthcare, simple as that.

So for those that say many, and they never back this up with real data, do not have healthcare insurance, I say so what, you do not need insurance to get medical care.

This whole issue is one of the BIG LIES, it is so outrageous that no one would ever lie about it.......... what a crock.

How many people do not participate at work in the healthcare programs? I will tell you my numbers, of 1,400 eleiglible employees only 38% enrolled. Now we had a younger workforce, but still 38% and we had a pretty good package, but you still had to pay something, and the 62% who were not enrolled, they did not want to pay anything, so why should I pay for them when the company already offered to pay part. These people should not count in the estimates.

Part time employees did not qualify, why? because they worked less than a full year in a year. There were plenty of these that would rise to the top of the part timers and were given full time positions, and the percentages of enrollment stayed the same. So these people should not count in the calculations as they either did not want to participate, or they refused to better their position to be able to enroll.

My wifes company had about 75% participation, in a high tech business with all full time employees, all pretty well paid as well, a company of 6,500 employees. So should the 25% count into the "vast number" of uninsured? NO

Listen up, this is mostly smoke and mirrors, to allow the government to get more control on your lives. I do not want the congress any where near my healthcare.

Now let's talk about costs of care. The socialists will tell you it is the pharmaceutical companies, that they are gouging us, yet the regulatory environment for new drugs is stupidly prohibitive, thanks to congress. So don't blame the drug companies, look at the regulatory environment first.

Socialists will tell you that Doctors are making bank, which is bunk. I have two good friends who spent the majority of their lives obtaining very expensive training. Most people graduate from school and go to work at 18 or 24 years old, most docs start making real money when they are 40 to 45 years old. Want to trade places with them, want their school bills?

My son had to have surgery, his jaws did not align correctly and his front teeth did not touch, he could not eat meat, or a sandwich. We had to wait until he was 20 years old so the growth had stopped. The doctors submitted the case to the insurance company and the insurer had the nerve to call it cosmetic. We had to do it regardless, and started meeting with each group to be involved, three doctors and the hospital and worked on a deal. They gave us almost 50% off of the original quote. I was PO'd, figuring they were gouging the insurance company, you see I believed the propaganda as well, but when I meet with them again, universally and individually they told me 1, the insurance company would pay 85% at best and most likely they would negotiate down to 75%, 2, the insurer would make them wait six to nine months and then would come back and try to lower the price again.

The end result was 50% in the bank today is worth more than maybe 75% in nine months.

So if there is a crisis in health care today, take a look at the insurance providers, and look at which politicians they donate millions to. Doubt me, look it up at http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/index.asp

So to reiterate, there is no healthcare crisis, it is expensive because it is the best treatment in the world. SO maybe a solution is a two or three tier system, you get what you can pay for, how would the socialists like that.

Oh I forgot, they want everyone to have the best that I the taxpayer can pay for, which is BS.

Answer 6

McCain proposes extra tax cuts for companies it is the comparable as spending the money. And Alan Greenspan pronounced that borrowing extra money for the McCain tax cuts replaced into very unwise. each and every of the banks etc and the genuine assets that has led to this situation are the McCain heavy duty supporters. I do accept as true with you that lots of the plans that Obama has proposed won't paintings with the recent disaster. even although, I stay in Arizona and replaced into here whilst McCain's buddy Charles Keating went to reformatory its comparable old comparable old stuff. can we've the money for all of the tax breaks. No we can't China will own our economy if we don't provide up asserting shall we save combating this conflict and save slicing taxes. it is going to ultimately bankrupt the country, if it hasn't already.

Answer 7

Why is it we can spend 7 billion a month to KILL Americans, but can't find the money to heal Americans? The USA, the richest country in the world, ranks 38th in the world as far as health care is concerned! Like all of Bush's failures all one needs to do is follow the money back to his donors. Big insurance companies and HMOs



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Answer 8

For those who are saying spend the money on health care rather than war - you're blind. There will always be expensive wars. Always has been and always will be. Then to add yet another expense on the backs of Americans is insane. It's impossible to do all things for all people. You must pick and choose. If you think there will be a time where no war exists, you are very naive.

Answer 9

Same people who pay for the war in Iraq.

Yet Obama's plan helps Americans LIVE rather than die.

Answer 10

Those numbers are unbelieveable. Currently healthcare in this country is costing $2.3 trillion per year. Just how can that number be cut back to $50 billion, which is just 2%.
National healthcare costing only $50 billion is a fairy tale. That would amount to full coverage for every man, woman, and child in this country for a cost of only $150 to $175 per year.

Answer 11

We've been told that the illegals will have to prove that they HAVE medical insurance which is part of that amnesty bill. Social Security started out as a 1% tax too in the beginning. I'm sorry, these conservative estimates are way too low.