This will be the only time I will ever agree with Barry Bonds
Pete rose should have been inducted on the first ballot as a player not a coach I agree with the punishment as far as the betting is concerned but he did it as a coach not a player. He had 4000 hits as a player not a coach. Yes band him as a coach not a player he is one of the greatest players ever and to keep him out of the hall because of something he did when he wasn’t even playing the game is wrong.
I think he will be inducted when they induct Barry Bonds. Because that’s when they will make exceptions to the rule. If they let a cheater like Bonds in they should let Rose in because he never cheated as a player or a coach. He simple made a wager on a game. He bet on his team to win. Yea he was the coach but he should be punished as such. Up until last year there was no proof that Rose bet on baseball and there is no evidence that Bonds cheated. I say bonds cheated and the same argument can be made about Rose. But now that he has come clean there is no argument. He bet and that’s final. So my final word is when Bonds makes it in then Rose should be on that same ballot.
2007-05-29 02:50:59
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answered by Joseph H 2
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The ineligibility agreement Rose willingly signed states that his punishment is "permanent". Not "lifetime" -- Rose drawing breath is obviously a valuable bonus to him personally, but makes no difference wrt his status with MLB.
Rose can get back into baseball's good graces when "permanent" has expired, or, and this is an extremely remote possibility but the only one he has, when he starts and finishes reforming his life into someone possibly worthy of reinstatement.
Rose has walked the planet for the past 18 years and, aside from getting older, has done nothing to make himself a person different from the one he was, and so he is still someone not to be trusted with any amount, no matter how infinitesimal, of responsibility within MLB. He's out and needs to stay there. Reinstatement would utterly undermine the message inherent in his punishment -- that if baseball is willing to keep PETE ROSE, HIT KING PETE ROSE, out, then it really is serious about the gambling rule.
Rose being miserable isn't the point, and that's not the intent of the punishment. The point is to learn a lesson and act appropriately thereafter. Rose hasn't even come close to approaching the very beginnings of this.
The Hall, which is a separate and much less interesting issue, says that anyone out of MLB is out of its consideration, which is a wimpy way of approaching it, but there it is, and that's an end to that.
And if one does not understand how massively corrosive internal gambling can be, one needs to learn; and if one still "thinks" that, well, it's not that bad, that person has no respect for baseball.
2007-05-29 11:01:23
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answered by Chipmaker Authentic 7
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He will never be inducted into the hall of fame, and baseball should NEVER get over the "gambling thing," as you suggest. The man gambled and broke the rules, AND lied about it for years. Now, he has come relatively clean and wants to be admitted. Won't happen.
Chow!!
2007-05-29 12:15:32
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answered by No one 7
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If Pete Rose were inducted in the Hall of Fame prior to his getting caught gambling on base ball would they have took him out? I doubt it Pete Rose did less to hurt the game then guys like Darryl strawberry,Doc Gooden,etc. but yet if these guys could find a team that would want them they could be coaching or in another non playing position.Rose biggest mistake was not being honest from the start.
2007-05-29 10:19:23
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answered by terry v 7
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Remember, Pete accepted a lifetime ban from the hall-of-fame. Some future commissioner could overturn that ban but it is not likely that will ever occur. They don't want to set a precedent for future players who do the same thing knowing that they could someday have any judgment against them overturned as well. If it were up to me I would overturn the ban and recognize his fabulous accomplishments.
2007-05-29 09:54:45
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answered by Frizzer 7
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I agree with you, Pete didn't do anymore damage to baseball than Barry Bonds has done using steroids to possibly break Hank Aaron's HR record.
2007-05-29 09:42:20
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answered by ablair67 4
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He will never be inducted and it's a shame. He was too thick headed to admit he bet on baseball and his own team and even if he did so now, it would probably be too late.
2007-05-29 09:39:26
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answered by jeterripken 4
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Probably never. He committed the one life-time ban that exists in baseball and lied about it for decades.
2007-05-29 09:41:56
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answered by Michael B 5
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Never.
His eligibility is up this year. It is a shame he was a great player and should be in but he is a stupid human being.
2007-05-29 10:06:30
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answered by Crowdpleaser 6
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Four days, six hours, three minutes and five seconds after hell freezes over. And that's way too soon for me.
2007-05-29 11:43:06
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answered by pob14 4
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