Ungrateful theists? How do you justify this?

Question

Let me preface this by saying that I do not intend this as a generalization for all theists, only those who lash out against non-believers, and complain about their beliefs not having influence in government.

Non-theists:
Started this country (America), on a foundation of freedom and a religiously neutral government.
Discovered electricity. (Ben Franklin) Harnessed electricity. (Thomas Edison)
Developed countless medical and technological advances, making them largely responsible for your every modern convenience, and the fact that you can live to be older than 40.

Yet you demand that the government and its laws should reflect YOUR beliefs and opinions, over anyone else’s. That your God belongs on the country’s money, and in the country’s pledge. (cont'd...)

You’re more than willing to flip a switch upon entering a room for instant light, rather than praying for light, which by your logic, would be more appropriate. (And let me point out, much less effective) You demand that schools teach creationism, and are enraged by the teaching of evolution, despite the fact that evolution has real applications in medicine, and creationism has no application outside personal belief. What has your oh-so-perfect belief system contributed to the advancement of mankind? How do you justify taking full advantage of non-theist contributions while insisting that your beliefs should be imposed on the nation as a whole, a nation which those beliefs have done nothing to create or improve? How do you use everything non-theist people and policies have provided, and continue to insist that they are wrong?

To the second and third answerers: You assert that God created everything, yet this assertion lacks any evidence, and invariably fails to yield any manner of results aside from personal satisfaction.

Dead Prez – I’m quite calm. How is it you feel you can judge my mood simply by reading the above?

In addition, this country was established (in 1776, when we asserted our independence, and declared ourselves a soverign nation, rather than a territory of Britain) on freedom, not religion. Not Chirtsianity. My assertions above are quite accurate. If we are to assume that this is a Christian-founded country, we must also deny our independence.

shaolt2002: I fail to see how that affects the substance of my question? Maybe not technically a non-theist, but as religiously neutral as was the focus of the point I made.

Dakota - No prob, man. And thank you for not being in the group I mentioned in this question. I've got no beef with anyone, theist or not, who refrains from pushing their religion on others. It's also rare that you can ask a question like this, and not get a ton of posts saying "UR an idiot! I am right!"

Answer 1

well taken points now if we could apply this to the social consciousness that can't extricate itself from the antiquated fantasies that keep us repeating history .
peace

Answer 2

You think Ben Franklin was a non-theist? He was a very unorthodox man, I always say he believed in every religion but adhered to none of them. And if this is supposed to be a religiously neutral government, then you must conclude that Evolution cannot be taught as a fact in public schools. If Evolution contradicts the Genesis account (and thereby goes against religious beliefs) then endorsing Evolution as a fact would be making an anti-religious statement.

What about Galileo, who stated that the language of science is math, and that evolution guy..... whats his name.... Darwin. Darwin failed algebra, admittedly was ignorant at math, and spent most of his time at the university playing sports and not studying.

Ben Franklin though, I love. He wrote a great essay on the Providence of God where he utterly destroyed the concept of Deism. I love studying history, it turns out that the iconoclastic images that people attach to it are nothing but lies.

Answer 3

For the record, America was actually founded by theists wishing to be free to practice their own religion away from the persecution of the church of england...That aside, theists will always cry like little girls when they don't get their way, and Christianity is one of the worst because it's the most power hungry religion to date...of course they want the governemnt ran by their religious system, look how well it worked with the Pope....well...maybe shouldn't go there, he DID kinda "look the other way" through that whole "holocaust" ordeal, right?.....

Answer 4

I don't intend to answer your question, I just wanted to thank you for not lumping all of us theists into one catagory. It's rare to find that here. And by the way, I agree with you.

Answer 5

Ben Franklin ? God created electricity . This is all god's creation. who gave the brain to man? god gave the brain to man. I'm with the christians. read the bible.

just kidding my friend.
Truth is bitter and ruthless. It hearts. No body like to get pain.Spoon fed religious formula is very poisons. Hard to get out of the body.

Answer 6

Whoa dude, calm down. You're gonna give yourself an ulcer.

Answer 7

You are preaching to the choir -- or the idiots.

Answer 8

Our country was founded on God fearing and religious peoples. You say that we accept your contributions but yet you take this country from the very God who gave it to you. Watch what this world becomes when you have removed God from it. It will be a very real hell.

Answer 9

You forgot one thing. Atheists and christians were created by the same God.