If you really loved someone, would you let them walk into a Nazi camp, knowing that they would be tortured and experimented on and worked to death? Or would you haul them off to safety and say, I'm doing this because I love you?
Would you let your child walk off a cliff, knowing that they will be hurt, and that they don't have an understanding of what they're getting into? Or would you respect their free will, and let them walk off the cliff rather than interfere?
I'm guessing that pretty much everyone here values the safety of their loved ones more than they value the sanctity of their free will. So if God loves us even MORE than we love our husbands/wives and children, and if God KNOWS that we're headed to hell for eternity, but he choses to let us go to hell anyway, what does that say about him?
Would you respect a parent who valued their child's "free will" over their safety? Would you respect a husband who stood by and allowed his wife to hurt herself? Is that true love?
2007-05-28 02:54:07 · 26 answers · asked by Aeryn Whitley 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
great Q...i've asked this so many times myself but never got a proper answer...actually i doubt that many will even READ the Q ....a lot of people seem to vomit out a set answer...
2007-05-28 02:57:53 · answer #1 · answered by nicky 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Your questions are all really good and should turned around on the deity that many worship. If God really loves humans, would he create Lucifer? Would he put Eve in a situation where she was allowed to be tempted even though she didn't have the any knowledge of good or evil or the ability to discern the difference.
Your questions indicate that most humans have way more compassion than your God. Most humans would not allow someone they loved walk into a Nazi camp, but if God exists and is all knowing and the creator, then he created the being that caused sin, and created the men who turned out to be Nazis.
2007-05-28 10:22:18 · answer #2 · answered by ɹɐǝɟsuɐs Blessed Cheese Maker 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
1) A child is vunerable and unlike other species they take many years to be self sufficient not just a few months ao even days.
They are un der a parent's protection for many years and can have free will when they reach adult type maturity. Until then they must be directed and guided with the parents calling the shots.
2) With nazi camp, there is next to nothing people could have done. Most ethinic victims there were singled out for extermination. They were rounded up and gunpoint and shipped efficiently there in a highly organized fashion. Intrevening would have had you both killed on the spot or beaten up and tortured elsewhere. You would have had to have been a seer and seen the writing on the wall in the early 1930's and got out of Europe; mind you some tried and got turned back to Europe just the same. This is a very difficult one to answer, sort of like do you still beat your wife?
3) God gave us free will to choose him or not. If he had not done so then his critics could have argued that he was a benevolent cosmic dictator, but a dictator just the same who kept us in chains like robots and would not let us evolve or develope on our own.
Regards,
Michael Kelly
2007-05-28 10:14:14 · answer #3 · answered by Michael Kelly 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
God gave us a choice and if we go the direction less traveled then how is it his doing? When your son is grown are you going to say "don't do this or that" and hold them back? You have no control over what your kids do after they are 18. If your son goes and murders someone does the time in jail then comes to you a reformed man and is sencerly sorry would you turn him away because he did that? I can honestly say I could not. I would hold him and accept that he did what he did and that he is now a changed man. God goes even further and forgives us even while we are still living in the sin. He gave us the way out and wether you take it or not will be your choice and only yours.
God bless you and I pray that some day you will understand what he did for you.
2007-05-28 10:06:28 · answer #4 · answered by Married and loving it!!!! 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋
It's like I have said for a long time: I wonder at the number of people who can both believe in hell and eternal torture and also worship the god they claim set up this system.
Maybe they know that no one really goes to hell, that everyone really gets to something better when they die, but they perpetuate the myth because it is the stick with which to beat the donkey when the carrot does not work.
Or maybe they don't know, but they have such a hatred of those who do not believe the same as they do that they don't care. I just can't figure it, myself.
2007-05-28 09:59:31 · answer #5 · answered by auntb93 7 · 3⤊ 1⤋
There comes a time in one's life when you must stand on our own for ourselves. No matter how much you love them, they must go their own way. All you can do is hold the door open as long as you can with the light on.
Essentially, that is what God has done. He has provided the Bible and plenty of opportunities to understand it with teachers. He has held off wiping out the wickedness on the earth which he detests. This is entirely to give them a chance to choose who they will serve. He can do no more.
2007-05-28 10:11:14 · answer #6 · answered by grnlow 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
EDIT: Oh, I get the question now... I agree. Below still is my original, stupid answer:
The problem is, you not only want us out out of the concentration camp; you tell us that the only way out is to worship Hitler.
So I'm faced with two possibilities:
1) Your story is bogus, there is no concentration camp
2) You story is true, in which case I will side with my fellow humans. You are asking me to worship an evil demon.
As for your last question, would I respect a parent/husband for trying to get us out of the supposed camp... No, I wouldn't. If you are truly convinced that the concentration camp is real then you are a sellout, worshipping the evil demon who set it up and making the rest of us suffer for all time. I can't see what is moral about it. The moral thing to do would be for no humans at all to worship Hitler, so he'd be left with ZERO population in heaven. Some glory He would have!
2007-05-28 10:03:47 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋
Good question. I wouldn't let anyone walk into the Nazi camp, not even a stranger. I often wonder about this Christian God of "love".
2007-05-28 09:57:32 · answer #8 · answered by Kathryn™ 6 · 3⤊ 0⤋
Someone all ready answered this type of question!!!!!!!!!
It wasn't only God who knows whats gonna happen, God gave us the ability to separate good from bad, we have conscience, awareness, and plain old common sense. God has so much faith in us that He waits for us to change what He saw, because He know we can, and for the Nazi camp thing, well, why did the Americans came to fight them for? why did the English came to help as well? why did the Russians took them out?
2007-05-28 10:08:58 · answer #9 · answered by John D 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Most of us started out in life as a child and are fully aware that interventions labeled as being in our own best interest correlate with no clemency to be expected. Anything new on offer?
2007-05-28 10:37:02 · answer #10 · answered by Bokito 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It is God's will that none should perish. I don't think we Christians know the whole story. When Christ returns to this earth, there is going to be a 1,000 year period of his rule. At that time, anyone who has never heard (or fully understood---which is a lot of us) the word of Christ will be brought back to life during that time to hear the word (without the sway of evil). After learning the true Christian way that Christ taught--and not all of these "Christian" churches ways---we will be given the choice as to whether or not we wish to follow him.
2007-05-28 10:04:55 · answer #11 · answered by Me 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋