On the debate of immigration, does anybody remember what started it all.?

Question

I remember 3 or 4 years ago it wasn't an issue. Not on the level it is today. What one issue caused it to be such a huge problem? It seems that people are so upset about hard working Mexican families whose own country sucks so bad they have to illegally leave their country and come to America the land of dreams and work horrible stinky jobs to support their families. And they have been doing this for decades but I don't remember what caused the sentiment there is today.

Answer 1

How about last years protests? That was the big eye opener for me. I was shocked that people who BROKE OUR LAWS and have very little respect for the USA were protesting for RIGHTS they didn't have in the first place!

What part about illegal alien don't you understand?

Answer 2

The problem is that illegal immigrants are flooding our society. In my state they want to give illegal immigrants in-state tuition. Is this fair, i think not. If i went to Germany illegally i wouldn't be allowed to attend college there. You can't pick and chose what part of America you want to be involved in. People can't chose to get jobs and go to schools but not pay taxes or help in other ways. The problem is that now illegal immigration is on such a bigger scale. And they won't assimilate into our culture. I realise that when the Europeans also came to America they had little neighborhoods where they spoke only their own languages but they eventually assimilated into our culture and our language. That can't be said of here. We now have to include street signs and many other things in other languages as to please the illegals.

Answer 3

3 or 4 years ago? Where have you been. Why did they get amnesty back in 1986, it was a problem then too.

Unless you have lived close to the border or in a border state many people haven't cared about this. ONLY now that they are moving into every state that the majority of Americans are seeing the problem up close.
And if you have kids in school they may have been seeing the problem even before you did.

Answer 4

Illegal immigration has been a problem since the Eisenhower Presidency. He was the last to try to put a stop to it. The real pressing issue is border security. Citizens in the US, after the attacks on 9/11/01 have been demanding that our border security be tightened up. It seems that politicians and the government have been obfuscating the security issue by emphasizing immigration reform. We need to stop the flow of illegal immigrants to keep terrorists out of the country. But politicians don't want to stop the illegals.

Answer 5

I see where your sympathy lies.. so you really don't want an answer.. I won't go into all the reasons that we should crack down and deport illegals.. because plenty of people already did that before me.. as for the reason it has started up so much was the "Day without an Immigrant"- I think citizens knew it was a problem but turned a blind eye to it.. until they saw the Protest- and saw just out of control the situation actually is...

Answer 6

My Friend I can tell you what I think . But that is just my Idea.
If you look at the last 6 years, you noticed that we have had so many issues, like the Terrorist alert, patriot act, Home land security, Osama Bin Ladin, Anthrax mail, Saddam Hussein, Iran and so on , now the interesting thing is that, as soon as one of them gets cold, the other appears.
Why? I think you can figure it out on your own.
Oh sorry I forgot to mention The Immigration Debate? !

Best Regards.

Edit : Dude all right to you. You see how simply this good folks, have fallen for it? Not All of them all racist are they?
My God you folks don't know s***t from Shinola?! Come on People clock is ticking, when are you people going to realized that you are being played like rag dolls? Just look how much energy, time and money is being wasted on some thing that You can not do any thing about . It has been around for many years and it is always gonna be. Just like drugs. Remember all that BS about war on drugs? Down the drain it went didn't it?

Think !

Answer 7

Immigration controversy has always been an issue, but it wasn't until Sept. 11th that it became a big issue, since it was immigrants that came into our country and flew the planes. It made everyone look at the big picture and realize that they shouldn't let just anyone in and out of our country as easily as they had been allowed to. Also, making the Mexican border a larger issue has shifted the focus off of discrimination against Iraqi and Muslim immigrants, so the government now won't be accused of profiling just immigrants with a turban or wearing the traditional Muslim dress, but all immigrants.

Answer 8

You are right, they have been doing it for decades, I am living proof because my father came to this country illegally in the 1970s. The uproar started with one loathsome politician making a big stink about it. He got the whole country to realize it and then they started counting.
Some days I wish they would deport them all, so that the US could see the mistake they are making. The stock markets would crash and the companies would go broke without the workers! Everyday I come home from work and while driving I see scores of mostly whites and a few blacks lined up to get into the homeless shelter. Good able bodied Americans with their whiskey in hand waiting in line to get that free meal and bed, but people want to complain about the hard working underpaid Mexican. tsk tsk tsk

But I would like to say one small thing. Mexicans are trying to bring the U.S. the best they have to offer. They come here not to have babies, though they’d be fools to miss the opportunity. They come here not to lounge around enjoying welfare benefits, though in every group there are people who make the best of a sucker-play. They come here to make their best efforts, to work—to work hard—to better themselves, to enjoy a better world, to get educated, and to prosper. It’s the American dream writ large. They’re just writing it in Spanish.
If they weren’t a well-integrated part of the machine, they would be replaced. Illegals work, in every sense of the word.
Directly or indirectly, that ketchup on those potatoes with that dinner salad and those chips and salsa and that tuna sandwich and that cloth napkin and that ice-cold lemonade were all provided by the hands of these people.
How much money would you imagine that involves? Does it cover the birth of a new American citizen?

Can the Mexican border be sealed? Is there some hermetic lock the politicians can put on two thousand miles of mostly wasteland and desert? And if they do, who will be the scapegoat then?
Watch for the rising smoke…

Answer 9

I don’t know where you have been living, but the problem has been going on here in Texas for a long time. The schools have suffered, increased gang activity, our employment suffers, and neighborhoods are suffering. Recently in the town where I live they had to pass a city ordinance to stop people from parking old trashy looking cars in front yards. Established city blocks were starting to look like the ghetto. This is an area where many Hispanics have migrated in.

True Red is correct when he says they destroy everything in their path.

Then take in to consideration the amount of tax dollars they are draining from the system. These dollars are being used criminals, illegal immigrants, at the same time funds are being denied to true American Citizens because they system is so drained.

It cost more in tax dollars to staff and stock proper “tools” to educate them in our system (bilingual teachers, special classrooms, etc). Many small towns in Texas no longer off books for students to take home at night to study; instead; books are assigned by the seat instead of to a student. If you need to take a book home, you have a battle on your hands.
These problems and additional cost are being passed on to the tax paying citizens of this country and we are tired of this type of abuse.

I could go on for pages, but hopefully you get the idea. I would suggest you get active and try to protect the area you live in before it too gets destroyed.

Answer 10

Organizations starting printing the cost to the taxpayers and more and more people started to realize the price we pay for illegal immigration, It was an issue 3 or 4 years ago, but what you are seeing now is the boiling point. Do you have any idea the cost of illegal immigration to the American public each year?

Education - is approximately $9000 per child per year in my district, how many children of illegals are in our school system x $9000 per child per year.

Also education - they have special needs and a language barrier which slows down the entire classroom. Our children are being slowed down in our public schools due to the special needs of illegals children.

Healthcare - illegals are using US emergency rooms as regular healthcare and skipping out on the bill which is then passed down to the American taxpayer and results in higher prices for services and higher insurance premiums for all.

Government assistance - in the form of welfare, WIC, and other forms of government assistance which they are not entitled too. Taxpayers pick up the tab of course.

There are many more examples but it is pretty early in the morning and I think you get the idea. Illegal labor may be cheap for companies and good for the illegal workers themselves but as you can see the taxpayer is taking it on the chin.

Answer 11

I would say that you opened your eyes 3 or 4 years ago. This debate has been going on since the 70s. In 86, Reagan's worst political decision was amnesty, and Bush is trying to follow suit with another major blunder.

As for your whole "hard working Mexican family..."

They ignore our laws by coming in, they depress wages by taking jobs that should pay more (Americans will do those jobs if they pay more than pig $hit in wages!). In keeping wages down, they in turn slow economic growth. They pay little or no taxes. Their low wages guarantee that they would not have income taxes, and those who do pay SSI, are doing it with a stolen name...and then they get the earned income credit, and file for a tax return on money that they have not paid. They even cause higher tuition for citizens and legal immigrants because they receive in state tuition in colleges they should not even be allowed to attend (they are here illegally)

They are unproportionately on welfare and clogging our prison systems.

This is an ongoing problem, and there is a simple solution.

1. Cut of 100% of benefits to illegals.
2. Punish employers (say $25,000 for first offense and $250,000 for second, plus 5 years in prison)
3. Declare that anyone caught in our country illegally after a specified date will NEVER have the opportunity to immigrate legally.
4. Re design the welfare system so that it actually rewards people for working rather than punishing them, and the jobs vacated by sending criminals home would be filled.



fifanet...if by "its all about power and money" you are saying that is how this traiterous immigration bill was written, then you are correct. If you are saying that power and money has anything to do with the opposition to criminal (illegal) immigrants, you are out of your mind. It is the power and money crowd who wants to let them stay.


dude...you are either blind or stupid. The immigration issue has been there since long before the war.