armed forces recruits ex convicts?

Question

does the armed forces recruit ex convicts?

or can ex convicts join if they wanted to? do they get benefits? i cant seem to find articles anywhere. i only found out that with a waiver they can join. but i still dont understand!

if anyone can answer, thank you!

fyi, this is for debate class. since we want to substantially increase the number of persons serving in the armed forces:
my plan is to let ex convicts join and do service at the front for a couple of years. the benefits for after will be that their criminal record will be wiped clean,can get jobs and a better life.

im talking about ex convicts, people that have served their time in jail and are now released.
not convicts, people that are serving their time in jail or that are going to serve their time.
seems some people dont know the difference..

Answer 1

Okay, here's the deal. If you have a record, you have to get a waiver to serve. You will not get a waiver if your crime is one related to domestic violence, murder, certain drug related issues, sex crimes, and crimes that are just generally bad in nature. Then, depending on exactly what you did, how old your were, and so on, it is up to the branch of service to give you the waiver or not. If you have been in a lot of trouble, you aren't going to get a waiver. Even simple things like shoplifting can keep you out if you are a repeat offender.

I understand your idea, but in reality it would never work. The military is not in the business of babysitting its members. While you would like to think that ex-convicts have learned their lesson, that isn't always the case. Additionally, you have to realize that military members have access to a lot of weapons. Something you don't want felons to have. Also, you are asking a lot of people to live in close quarters with and trust these people. It just isn't going to happen.

Answer 2

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Answer 3

Wouldn't you prefer to see me there rather these young kids? Look back to Vietnam and you will see it happened a lot. Noone wanted to go but at least in Nam they were already looked down upon. It wouldn't bother me to take the place of a younger kid if he had the opportunity to do something better with his life than I did with mine!!!! I served 20+ yrs. ago. I'm sure with the current state of affairs it won't be long before the college kids run for Canada and you'll be glad that people like me are willing. If you think criminals are lazy, just come try my job!!! We do work you would never do. So file your uninformed BS in the recycle bin. I throw things around with one arm that weigh more than most of the people in here! And I make more than my X wife who I bought 2 of your worthless degrees. Don't judge a person by a record, you best look at what they've had to do since then. I paid for 3 houses, Court costs & fines, her costs & fines & prob. fees, and paid my attorney. And all were paid off in a 4 year time span.

Answer 4

No, No, and No.

Think of it this way. When you are in combat your life depends on the people around you, very literally. Every second of every day you are trusting your fellow soldiers with your very life. You literally have each others back, all the time, 24/7/365.

This is where the military traditon of honor comes from. The level of trust involved is hard to express in words. It is much closer than most families.

So the guys in the military DON'T WANT people who are gork ups out there. Gork ups will get them killed.

Think about it, when you go to sleep you are trusting the guy on sentry duty with your life. If he decided to take a nap or toke up a joint when nobody is looking, he could get the whole unit killed. That's just one example. You trust the armorer to make sure that your ammo and your weapon will work correctly and not blow up on you. You trust that the people who's job it is to cover to you will do so. You trust the guy who calls down artillery or air support to get it right and not drop the rounds on you by mistake. You trust that the helocopters that are supposed to pick you up will be at the right place at the right time. You trust the people who say "We checked the bridge for mines, it's safe to cross."

So soldiers do NOT want people that aren't trustworthy out there on the line with them. Like I said, they are liable to get not just themselves, but the people around them killed. If some lazy puke doesn't bother to check the road for mines and lies and says he did... well we can all wind up dead, or maimed or burned to death.

Convicted fellons are, by definiton, NOT trustworthy folks. If they were... they wouldn't be convicted fellons.

See the flaw in the plan?

You want to trust some gorked up meth maggot that is so stupid he couldn't even stick up a Seven Eleven without getting caught with your very life, on a daily basis? I sure don't!

Answer 5

Everyone who joins gets the benefits, some more than others, it depends on the education level and ASVAB scores, being in jail has nothing to do with it. However, as an exception, some jobs may be denied individuals who can not get a security clearance.

Answer 6

When I joined about 25 years ago, we had a fair number of people in basic with us who were there because some judge had given them a choice between that and jail time.

We also found that the DIs would, as a matter of routine, let us know that, any legal problems we might have, that might have slipped our minds eariler in the recruiting process ...you know like outstanding warrants, that sort of thing... these could certainly be ironed out if we'd come forward. And several people did.

According to the news reports, they've become rather less picky about that sort of thing these days, as they have about aptitude test score, and physical condition. In order to make their recruiting goal numbers.

The difference between ex-convicts, convicts, and criminals who haven't been caught yet seems a bit overly subtle to me.

Does it really matter, so long as desperate people can be found to fill the ranks, so long as law abiding patriots can wave flags while somebody else, anybody else, does the shooting for them?

Mabye you could debate about it.

Answer 7

For real, ask a recruiter. The military is pickier than civilians; they want hard workers, dedicated, intelligent, capable...Do you see where this is leading? In other words, criminal types wouldn't be fit. Also, positions in intelligence or J.A.G. require a person have no more than a few minor traffic tickets. Any jail time or what have you makes you inelligible.

Answer 8

1. Everybody (US military) is not out of Iraq right now! 2. Yes, they are still recruiting! 3. Yes, the Navy and Marines are still recruiting, specifically!

Answer 9

Of course NOT!!! The U.S.Military is NOT like French Foreign Legion. I only know is that the U.S.Military they recruits former military men. Even if they have been in Special Ops force.

-Military brat & I read books.

Answer 10

Yes. Desperate times lead to desperate measures. When you abuse the troops, fresh recruits decline.