Question:How do you explain christians who are rude, violent, con artists, greedy, viscious, use drugs, mean spirited, etc.
Answer: They are not real christians
When atheists are asked a similar type of question such as:
"Why do atheists habitually point out flaws in the bible"?
Answer: Atheists don't respond "they are not real atheists".
How are you ever sure anything in your world is real or true? Or is it the faith thing that I'm just not seeming to get?
2007-05-27 15:21:00 · 18 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
christians why are you so defensive? It's not like I'm making this stuff up. If you don't know how to answer I understand that.
2007-05-27 15:26:55 · update #1
Christians are notorious deniers of the truth -- that's why they believe what they believe, no matter how ridiculous most of the bible is.
2007-05-27 15:23:37 · answer #1 · answered by Resident Heretic 7 · 4⤊ 8⤋
Unfortunately Christians have had the experience of con artists pretending to share their faith in order to get their money. It is not only Christians that that has happened to but every other religious group, as far as I know. I like to think that atheists are skeptical enough to not fall for that. True Christians also sin so it is hard to understand how another person can tell if another is false or simply not as good as expected. Some of the people who often label others as false Christians fall apart when they find that a friend has cheated on a spouse or done something else which "no real Christian would do". They do have their faith in God and not their felow man so I guess it's ok, if you have to choose where to put your faith, they have it right.
2007-05-27 15:31:47 · answer #2 · answered by Kuji 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Because that's what the Bible says - your true faith is revealed in the fruit you bear. Jesus said to love. You can't just love and not express it - we are commanded to spread the gospel. That doesn't mean to go and shove religion down everyone's throat - it means to spread the good news that they can have access to the love of God - and it ALSO means to give TANGIBLE, real help. Jesus condemned the Pharisees for walking past a homeless, hungry person and praying over him, saying 'be warm and fed' but not giving him food or clothing. They were not walking in love.
One example of this is - if you say you love your wife, but you cheat on her and beat her and berate her, are you really loving your wife?
If you say you're a Christian, but you're not even trying to live like one, then you're a hypocrite, not a Christian. Yes, Christians will fall short, just like any other person - but a true Christian will get up, repent (say sorry AND turn from the sin) and move on, not stay stuck in guilt.
2007-05-27 15:36:22 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
no, i think that what you don't get is WHAT a Christian is...first off, a Christian is someone who follows Christ, accepts His teachings, obeys His commandments,and is devoted to becoming more like Him every day...notice i didn't say 'catholic, baptist, methodist, lutheran...' or any other denomination...attending services does not make you a Christian, nor does being a member, even a deacon, elder, or even a pastor or priest!
the other thing to consider is that Christians are people also-being saved does not mean that suddenly you are some kind of saint...being saved is (to steal a line from aerosmith) a journey, not a destination...
that being said, i find it interesting that you contrast Christians doing things that are supposed to be against their beliefs with atheists doing what is their #1 preoccupation...the two questions are NOT similar...they DO, however, seem to support your own viewpoint, which i'm guessing was the point of your post, as opposed to asking a meaningful and objective question...
2007-05-27 15:40:13 · answer #4 · answered by spike missing debra m 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Faith not based on Fact is Fantacy... for those of The True Christian Faith, God is The Fact... because each individual has had a personal experience with God. It is because of the personal experience in Knowing The Fact of God that The Faith placed in God is valid.
As to the "they are not real christian" responce.... that is a valid response in many cases... if one is doing/being all you describe then it would be valid for one of The Faith to respond with that answer...
2007-05-27 15:30:05 · answer #5 · answered by idahomike2 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Atheists and Christians have a fallen nature. God did not create a perfect world. In fact, God could have created a better world (St. Thomas Aquinas). God created this world "in a state of journeying." The more perfect exists alongside the less perfect. Nature has both constructive and destructive forces. Physical good will always be mixed with physical evil until creation reaches perfection.
Peace and blessings!
2007-05-27 16:06:24 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
If someone is a true Christian, they will do these things because being a Christian means that you live your life pleasing unto God and these things are not pleasing unto God. There are many out there, believers and un-believers alike that claim to be something they aren't.
2007-05-27 15:34:09 · answer #7 · answered by God's Child 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I think you answered your own question. They do not know how to answer, and they could use some help in answering it.
I think that a lot of organized religions are on the System, and people are getting their "benefits" and compromises from their religious organizations. I know they might be inclined to tell you that they have been good and are being blessed with material things, even when they have been contemptible. The reality is that religious organizations have been infiltrated by "stonecutters" who want them to misbehave to pay their dues to the System that empowers them. "Stonecutters" (i.e. Freemasons and groups with similar practices) use the membership to chisel off behind closed doors. You have to watch them especially hard at funerals, where they may trick unsuspecting people to chisel their lives away and agree to let them take their lives next.
The ideology of the Freemasons follows the yin and the yang model, maintaining that good and bad must exist in equal proportions and in equal amounts. Using the yin and yang symbol as a model, they could add that into everything that is good you have to add a little bit of bad (and hence the black dot inside the white part), and that into everything that is bad you have to add a little bit of good ( hence the white dot inside the model). It probably differs from the Far Eastern model of the yin and yang, which is more about harmony and balance than good and evil. If you accuse them of being Satanists, they remind you that "there's good in our system, too".
Why don't you ask these Christians about possible chiselers in their churches, and about whether these people have given them any compromises? If they have been given compromises or cheat advantages, they will be expected to pay them back. Because their compromises come from a bad source (theft), they will be expected to pay back with deliberate lies and other damages. The girls might be expected to have sex with some strange man and try to get the other girls to do it for them. It is called getting someone else to pay their way, and it marks them off as porrly behaved people as well as cheapskates. Being excesively chastizing is a way of using religion to abuse.
You may refer to some of my previous questions.
Some of the rude ones, especially, might really be more frustrated than evil.
2007-05-27 15:58:41 · answer #8 · answered by spanner 6 · 0⤊ 2⤋
I'm a Christian, yet I've been rude, violent, greedy, mean-spirited, and have committed other sins in my Christian life. I'm still a human.
Hebrews 12:1
...and let us run with perseverance the race ...
I'm not there yet, but I'm going to keep running and asking for God's help.
2007-05-27 15:25:18 · answer #9 · answered by harvomatic7 2 · 4⤊ 2⤋
Christians are known by their fruits(works). Fruits of hate and bigotry, rudeness, greed, etc are not fruits of a Christian. Saying one is a Christian and being a Christian are 2 totally different things.
2007-05-27 15:29:17 · answer #10 · answered by tebone0315 7 · 3⤊ 0⤋
This argument has lost any viability here. Those of us who are honest know that all sides play dirty. Plausible deniability belongs in politics. We should know better but obviously do not.
The Ol' Hippie Jesus Freak
Grace, Peace and Love in Christ
Peg
2007-05-27 15:25:33 · answer #11 · answered by Dust in the Wind 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋