I thought God was all mighty and powerful??

Question

I asked someone why god had to send Jesus get get really messed up in order for God to forgive our sins. He said that God cant choose not to punish sin, that wouldnt be just. That means that he cannot do something. That means he is not all mighty and powerful. Is my logic flawed some how? If it is please fill me in.

Answer 1

God can not violate His own nature.
Yes, your logic is flawed in that its not logic at all.

Answer 2

Actually, God WILL not live with sin. Though there are things that are impossible for God to do, such as lie. Dose this make God less than all-powerful? I don't think so; he is still able to accomplish ANY purpose he chooses.

It is from God himself we get our understanding of what he can and cannot do. Do you think he meant to include sinning when he said that there is nothing that he cannot do? THAT would be logically contradictory. In other words, it is men that put meaning into God's words that were never intended. To change the meaning of the premise and then say the conclusion does not follow, is illogical.

Answer 3

Whenever someone comes up with an argument like this, they try to make it seem that there things that God can't do, therefore He is not all powerful. The error made is always the same - they describe a negative activity rather than a postive action. God is perfect being, and he therefore cannot be imperfect or lack being. So if you describe something imperfect or lacking full being and then try to attribute that to God, of course you are going to conclude that God cannot "do" or "be" that imperfection. A working lamp cannot produce darkness, it produces only light. Similarly God is always perfect and complete, he cannot in any way be imperfect and incomplete. So no God cannot be unjust in any way. He did however love the world so much that He gave us His only Son as a means of forgiveness and redemption.

Answer 4

I think your logic is right on.
What is almighty and all-powerful is the energy that exists everywhere, everywhen and in itself has given rise to certain physical laws that result from manifestation.
The religions - ALL religions - are attempts of man to understand what cannot be understood with a linear mind.
My belief is that MAN has transferred attributes to 'God' that are really man's attributes: jealousy, revenge, judgment.
If God was somehow man-like and male, I can just see him laughing his butt off, rolling on the floor.
That's a joke, along with all the other man-made attributes given to something some of us have labelled as 'God' and none of us can describe or understand.
Jesus is attributed with a lot of mysterical qualities, and these have been used to persuade people into the christian religion.
This man Jesus, however, has also come up with some pretty good words and deeds and set some examples for living for the rest of us.
If you can research the words of Jesus, compare them with the words of Buddha, and - most importantly - check them with the voice of your own heart, you may get some assistance in defining your mission in this life and the quality of your life.
Other than that, don't let the churchies confuse you. Your logic is fine.

Answer 5

he didn't HAVE to do anything. We screwed it all up. We screwed up paradise (the garden) We were meant to live eternally as his creation in his image, we brought sin into this world.

Don't forget he sent the flood to kill his creation but b/c he found favor and had love for Noah, he spared him.

We needed a redeemer so we could still have the opportunity to have everlasting life with him. Jesus paid the debt that we as human beings couldn't pay. He died so that you may live.

You really think he sent Jesus to punish sin? It was to win OVER sin. Now sin could no longer be the reason we wouldn't live on after death.

He conquered sin and death by making the ultimate sacrifice. He did nothing wrong, he helped, healed, preached, gave to the poor, he was perfect but yet he was crucified and took it.

Wow don't even know if my own mother would do that for me and she gave birth to me. He did it for all mankind.

Hallelujah for the King has risen!! I thank God everyday for sending his son, for the cross, for loving me that much he even though I sin against him that he will forgive me through Jesus Christ.

God Bless

Answer 6

God is almighty. But he will not act against his nature. He is a just judge. Because he is a just judge, he must punish sin. God is also love. Because he loves us, he does not want to punish us unnecessarily. So he devised a system of animal sacrifices to teach us that he accepts a substitute offering for sin.

So when Jesus was suffering on the cross, he was suffering in our place, being our substitute. "He was wounded for OUR transgressions, He was bruised for OUR iniquities" (Isaiah 53:5). Now God will forgive us our sins because Jesus already paid the penalty for us. To have your sins forgiven, come to Jesus in prayer and ask.

God is almighty, but his love and justice also play a part in what he will and will not do.

Answer 7

Sin is a rebellion against God. God does not send us to hell - we send ourselves.

Take satan and the demons in hell... They sent themselves there because they rejected God, Goodness itself. If you reject Goodness, then what else is left but the complete opposite? God gave us the free will to choose. He gave that to us freely. He is not going to force us to be with Him if we don't choose to. If He forced the demons into Heaven after they rejected Him, then God would be taking away their free will which He gave them.

Free will is a gift, not a paradox. We choose to sin. Sin is rejecting God. Because of the gift of free will, we send ourselves to hell from mortal sin. Again, one freely chooses to commit a mortal sin.

There is no paradox on God's part. The only paradox is wanting to sin and wanting to enter heaven. If one rejects God, then one doesn't want to be with Him. Since God is complete Goodness, then rejecting Him means being in an in an eternal state of suffering and evil. It would be like never studying for your classes and then wondering why you didn't pass the exams and then asking, well, the professor could have just given me the answers. Either way, you still wouldn't have learned anything and you still would be in the same state you were before the exams - devoid of the truth and knowledge.

Answer 8

God's character is love but He is a just God. That is why He did make provision for sinners to receive forgiveness through Jesus. The penalty of sin is death. God did have a choice, no one forced Him to help us. He loved us so much that He chose to help us. We now have a choice to accept that help and forgiveness or not....it is a gift to us but in order for it to belong to us we have to choose to take it.

Answer 9

God created man . when man ,having free will chose to disobey . God banished man from eden but not without the promise of redemtion in the form of His only begotten Son Jesus the Christ to defeat the ursurper,Satan . By Jesus 's faith and sacrifice mankind has been reconciled to the Father.

Answer 10

He's perfect, right? perfect means "without flaw". personally, I think being able to do something wrong is flawed, don't you?

omnipotent speaks of power, not what is permissable. a dictator is omni-permissed until overthrown or dead (or both), but not all powerful. God's the opposite of that. He's not allowed to do sinful things, scratch that... He CAN'T do sinful things, as He's omni-benevolent..

get it?

Answer 11

It is about procedure, God don´t brake the rule that he set,and if Adam an Eve make a sin they must die, God said that and he don´t brake his own rules, (Isaiah 55:11) he prepara a solution to give the offspring of Adam the oportunity that they wasted.