last question...PLEASE try not to miss me too much!!
Why is it so hard to believe in Jesus. Is it because it often requires the mindset of a fundamentalist atheist hellbent on destroying christianity. People who convince themselves that they are the avatar of logic and obsess so much over it that they've turned reality into a mathematical equation and now live in a fantasy world where everything (that inconveniences the fundy atheist) must fit his outrageous criteria.There is far less evidence that that Macedonian king Alexander the Great lived in the B.C. 300s than there is for the life of Jesus Christ as recorded in the Bible, yet nobody has made www.AlexanderTheNonExistant..
I love how athiests presume to know exactly how God 'should' be. Perhaps they's also like to tell Hideo Kojima how Solid Snake 'should' be?
2007-05-26 17:31:33 · 26 answers · asked by LIVINGmylife 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
to BloodyK- you've GOT to be kidding me?
2007-05-26 17:38:00 · update #1
pray for them.
2007-05-26 17:34:06 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 15⤋
Firstly - learn how to spell atheist - it's one of those exceptions to the I before E except after C rules.
It's kind of hard to believe in something that doesn't have any decent evidence to back it up. That's it. Some atheists believe there was a jesus but not that he was the son of god and it's not important to atheism whether there actually was a Jesus or not.
I haven't convinced myself Im the avatar of anything, and I'm terrible at maths- thats whats called a strawman. Look it up.
Extraordingary claims require extraordinary evidence.
If there were claims that Alexander the Great could shoot fire with his eyes and had a tail I'd have trouble believing that too without some pretty decent evidence to back it up.
The bible does not prove the bible is true. Of course if you were really savvy you could point out some of the references to a Jesus in other writers work. Interestingly none of them were contemporary.
All we do is point that this god fellow you're so keen on doesn't really sound so godlike and yet you think we should be worshipping something that you go out of your way to sound like some kind of sociopathic mass murderer.
I'm baffled as to how someone can believe something fantasical exists with so little evidence to prove that it does.
2007-05-27 09:51:28 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
There is far less evidence that that Macedonian king Alexander the Great lived in the B.C. 300s than there is for the life of Jesus Christ as recorded in the Bible, yet nobody has made www.AlexanderTheNonExistant..
There is actually contemporary evidence of Alexander's existence along with later writings based on contemporary accounts.
More to the point, no one is claiming Alexander the Great was crucified, resurrected and ascended into heaven.
No one says, if you don't accept Alexander the Great as your personal savior you'll burn in hell.
No one claims Alexander the Great was an incarnation of Yahweh.
And if they did claim any of those things, would you believe it? Or would you think "primitive people made up myths about their heroes"?
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
2007-05-27 00:58:43 · answer #3 · answered by Mom 4 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Believing in Jesus as a historical figure is irrelevant. Many atheists believe he existed. Believing he was the Son of God is another thing entirely. I don't believe Alexander was the Son of God either, BTW.
As for telling God how he "should be", we only quote back at him. The Bible says that God is love and that he doesn't want anyone to go to hell. The Bible also says that God is omnipotent. Please explain how an omnipotent God who doesn't want to send people to hell has to anyway?
Better yet, explain how a loving father who I trusted and believed in from my first visit to Bible camp could coldly refuse to save me from a debilitating physical deformity that I got from some randomly crossed genes? How a loving, all-powerful father would choose to keep his young, trusting daughter in pain in the hospital when I was 13?
My real dad would've taken that pain away in a heartbeat, but he didn't have the power. My heavenly father had the power, yet didn't. Either, then, God (1) is not love, or (2) is not omnipotent, or (3) doesn't exist.
I chose 2. Atheists choose 3. You've chosen to ignore the dilema entirely.
2007-05-27 00:40:07 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 1⤋
why is it so hard to get it through your thick skull, we non believers decide what we want to believe. we decide our fate whether hell or no hell because theres so much unknown and as far as i know, only a hand full of people reached the moon. if we have reached so little and not explored the galaxies, how can we proclaim someones idea of some imaginary figure to be some creator. the mathematics of chaos, or chaos theory proves theres no god and from out of nothing something can emerge. why dont god come today instead of 2007 years ago where it lacked video cameras, tv, etc. i want to see some proof and thats having him come down from his kingdom and show himself to everyone. why cant he do that? if hes so powerful he should come down and convert people since god is master of language, he should be so persuasive he can convert people instantly. why send a man to do a gods job. well i guess killing everything than educating them is his way, why waste his infinite energy and infinite time to spend a few moments teaching people, its easier to whip everything off the planet. power to the 666. or the 6969.
2007-05-27 01:42:41 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
It's not that hard to believe in Jesus as described in the Bible. I have no doubt that he lived and then died. Believing in the "son of god" propoganda, however, is that hard. Why? I actually read the bible, hard as that may seem to you. My criteria may be outrageous to you, but I was never one to submissively shut up and let my husband (you know the word means to use or manage wisely) tell me what I should learn. I learn for myself. Period. Don't forget that in order to be forgiven for putting yourself in authority over men on this forum, you actually have to be repentant. Not that it matters.
I do presume to know exactly how god should be. Humans created him, why not modify him to spec? Don't like Pauline misogyny? Throw it out of the bible! It only applies in historical context. Don't like homosexuals? Well hey, lots of stuff in the non-gospel part of the New Testament to slam them with, pshaw on historical context. If you can modify god to suit yourself, why can I not modify your god suit myself? No, wait, the bible was meant to be interpreted where it's now considered wrong.
There is a fantasy world here, and it's not mine. You're wallowing in it. Reality is mathematical. It's just another language to describe the way things are. Of course, people who live in your Jesus-colored glass house hate reality described by math because you can't twist the connotation to suit yourself. Ussher was a genius misguided by his religion. His biblical scholarship was beyond reproach. His young earth reasoning is based on years of deep study, tracing Jesus' lineage through all of the books until he reached the beginning. Add six days, and happy for you. Too bad that basic physics, the language of math and potassium argon dating put the oldest homo sapiens skeletons that we've found at 130,000 years old, some 123,000 years older than the Bible says Adam & Eve is. Maybe god lied to you when he "wrote" the lineage of Jesus in the bible? No, wait, that's outrageous criteria. When god said "days" he didn't mean a day, day. He meant years long days. Millenia long days. No wonder you think math is a fantasy world.
Get over yourself. Your bible is provably false and you're scrabbling around like Ann Coulter on speed, twisting any connotation you can out of reality until it looks the way you want it to look. Not that it changes reality, but it must make you feel better when you get down on your knees and pray that you don't actually have to interpret the bible literally.
2007-05-27 01:06:34 · answer #6 · answered by Muffie 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Why is it so hard to believe you are believing in a lie?
The Macedonian King and Alexander the great does not ask me to believe they are gods, I just treat those as storybook, just like how I treated bible.
You Christians are turning reality into fantasy, so what's new?
Telling Kojima how solid snake should be? Why? Snake does not claim to save humans and if you do not believe in snake you go to hell, or did he?
The answer is the same, mindset.
2007-05-27 00:43:58 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 2⤋
The bible cannot be taken as a reliable source. The people who wrote about alexander the great were not trying to start a relgion and convert people. Andon your question on why is it so hard to believe in jesus. Why is it so hard for you to believe in Ahura Mazda or Zeus?
2007-05-27 00:42:36 · answer #8 · answered by Armand Steel 3 · 4⤊ 1⤋
Because the claims involved are not credible. There is no evidence to support (or refute) the existence of any sort of god. Thus, there can be nothing of god's rules, and the concept of sin is void. Hence, the concept of redemption is also void. With no reason remaining for Jesus to even exist, what is the point in believing in it?
2007-05-27 00:38:35 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 6⤊ 1⤋
The Trinity concept is rather bizarre, irrational, illogical and has little scientific support.
When observing those who claim to be followers of Jesus and see that they are hypocrites, arrogant, haugty and condescending, all of which Jusus would find repugnant, that provides some evidence that those who claim to follow Jesus' teaching are unreal.
One does not have to believe in Jesus to follow some of his recommendations.
I would never ask a person or god to sacrifice one of their children for me for any reason.
The whole concept of sacrifice is barbaric and stupid. If god was real it would not be necessary to have sacrifices at all.
God's omnipotence is bothersome; is he all powerful or not? Why couldn't he have been more clear and why do we have hundreds of denominations and hundreds of interpretations of the Bible? A real powerful god could at least think and communicate clearly.
God, as depicted in the Bible is barbaric, savage, blood thirsty and a child molester. A real god would not do that kind of disgusting stuff.
Is god a single god or is it three, three, three gods in one? Was the three god always three from the beginning of time? If so his "birth" is a real problem as is his parenthood and his talking to himself is a serious symptom.
It is difficult for me to believe in "Jesus" the kid, who is his owm father, who had sex with his own mother then talked to himself in the garden before he made himself kill himself for our sins, the first of which was Eve's discovery that she was NAKED. Give me a break. The Bible is a disjointed conglomeration of a lot of primitive superstitious myths assembled, selectively included in a book designed to make people fearful so their masters could shear them like sheep.
2007-05-27 00:46:53 · answer #10 · answered by valcus43 6 · 2⤊ 2⤋
The first thing that really gave me doubts was knowing that muslims were going to hell. Considering the geographical location of a human being in this world, and how their environment effects their beliefs, i couldn't imagine god damning a muslim to hell. To further that, i prayed and prayed for knowledge and understanding of why god did this...through reading the bible.....but nothing seemed to change. i still felt the same way about the situation. so basically....i did my part; i don't know where god was...
2007-05-27 00:40:51 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 1⤋