Can you solve this intelligent design paradox?

Question

I asked earlier if there was anything clearly not intelligently designed. The best answer I got (in fact the only serious answer) was, a rock.

However, this implies that ID is only applicable to living organisms. If that is true, how did the rock get there? Since the rock has no signs of having an intelligent creator, under ID theory we can conclude it had no creator, and thus G-d did not create the rock. the rock being a piece of Earth, therefore implies that G-d did not create the earth.

Thus if you believe in ID, you must conclude that there was no divine creator of earth, or atl east that the creator responsible was different from whoever made animals.

If you are going to say that having no sign of a creator doesnt mean for certain that there is no creator, you have invalidated all of ID theory. If you say that the rock does show intelligent design, then you too invalidate the theory because you have made it impossible to define something as not being obviously designed. If everything is designed, how can we compare objects to determine if they are designed.

Stating that all things were intelligently designed does indeed solve the paradox but it also throws ID as a scientific theory out the window.

Answer 1

You nailed it, good job. :)

Stuff like this is why ID can't be taken seriously. Most people will go the latter route at the end, though, and claim that EVERYTHING was intelligently designed, which makes ID unfalsifiable, and therefore not science, and in turn no opponent to any scientific concept.

Answer 2

Right, there is a watch. Where did it come from? The watchmaker! There is a car. Where did it come from? The watchmaker! No? That argument might support polytheism a bit better. But we are talking about biology as opposed to mechanical items. A watch will not build it's self. A wind storm will not randomly take the pieces of a watch and put them together. Natural selection on the other hand is in no way random though. Just slight progressions over time It is complex and no one understands evolution, but that does not make it wrong. You may as well say "I, , do not understand , therefor it can not possibly be true" I don't think you missed a thing

Answer 3

ID is more scientific in nature than Darwinism, so come up with your own conclusions.

What bothers me is that our state run schools and universities will not let anyone debate the issue. If you don't believe in Darwin as your god then you are against the state religion and must be slandered or thrown out of office.

To answer your question, rocks are made of atoms that are part of the Intelligent Design. I'm not saying it has to be God. You don't have to believe in God to believe in ID, but you have to believe in Darwinism without any proof in order to not believe in ID.

Choose the Darwinist religion or choose science.

Answer 4

No biological systems were intelligently designed. Human appendix? Useless. Nipples on men? Designed by committee? Pissing and ejacuating from the same hole? Ran out of funding because the esophagus and larynx had cost overruns?

Answer 5

This paradox is resolved with you acknowledge that God made made everything in our known universe with the things we see and don't see. In things spiritual and natural.

Logically if you realize that man can create different types of art. And acknowledge that light has many different types of spectrum's and serve different types of functions like heat, and microwaves etc. If you acknowledge that life is varied with plants and animals etc. If you acknowledge diversity in this universe. And then acknowledge that they all come from the same source. Then your paradox is resolved.

Answer 6

Isn't a rock just part of the earth's surface/crust?

Thus implying that it is part of what God created, that being the earth....

Just pointing this simple fact out.

If this doesn't satisfy, feel free to email me at [e-mail]

Answer 7

I believe the rock was ID for a purpose, we use them to build things with old days for roads (cobble stone roads) we use them to purify water..we use them to cook on..etc. oh the most definitely had a creator who else could take one item and give it so many use's?

Answer 8

You design and build a rock...

Answer 9

Cretinism is reasonable for people who believe in god. Only IDiots believe in ID.

Answer 10

Idiot...

Read up on what rocks are and what there made of. Then read up on what the things that make up the rocks are made of and how the they are arranged.

I'll give you a starting point word: mineral.