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Why do so many people not want the church to have the Tridentine Latin Mass. It is kind of like a traditional thing in our church and many people are having a new interest in this and some older people are attached to it. It would only be performed by the priests that want to do this. If people like this mass better why should we put restrictions on it?

2007-05-26 13:57:47 · 7 answers · asked by NFrancis 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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To let you know; the Latin Mass never left. So there is no 'return' but an 'acceptance' because of misinformation to the faithful. Many faithful believed that Vatican II got rid of the ancient Mass. It did not, and never did; and simply could not. Pope John Paul II in 1984 asked his Eccelsia Dei commission to look to see if it had indeed been done (getting rid of Tridentine Mass) and found that VII did not (and again, could not)

He then allowed ALL bishops in the world to have the TLM, but with permission (indult). Very few bishops allowed it because they were/are imbued with the 'spirit of VII'. The difference between then and what is upcoming is the fact that it will be a given and no permission will be needed from a bishop. A priest and the faithful can have it said/heard.

Further, the words of consecration will be set in stone--due to the local language customs there have been noticeable laxity in the words so now it will be " for many" whereas it has been known to say " for all".

Please read Quo Primum by Pope Pius V; it is illegal to get 'rid' this beautiful (Tridentine) Latin Mass.

Even Paul VI never said it was abrogated, he simply introduced the Norvus Ordo Missale.

Why put restrictions on this ancient and beautiful Mass? Simply put--because there is resistance to admitting that the 'spirit of VII' has gone amuk. Not to say that Vatican II in WORD went haywire, but the 'interpretation' got all f'd up; with no real check and balance; and this means that much of those who did damage to the Church in this supposed 'spirit' have lost and they will be kicking and screaming the entire way. This is NOT about nostalgia. This is about correcting a wrong that has gone on far too long.

2007-05-28 15:49:03 · answer #1 · answered by Michelle_My_Belle 4 · 2 0

The Tridentine Mass is favored by Catholics who, for the most part, do not fully understand the current Vernacular Mass.

A proper understanding, and participation in, the Vernacular Mass demonstrates that a change in "formulas" is, simply unnecessary. I'm a big believer in "if it ain't broke, don't fix it.", and thus, favor the Vernacular Mass.

However, if the pope deems fit to bring back the Tridentine Mass, so be it. I like that the pope is allowing each individual parish to decide for themselves whether or not they want to incorporate the Tridentine Mass.

A Catholic parish typically holds one to two Saturday evening vigils, three Sunday morning masses, and maybe even a Sunday evening mass. A parish can decide to dedicate one of these a Tridentine Mass, and maintain the Vernacular for all the others. That way, both the pro-Tridentine and the pro-Vernacular crowds are appeased.

2007-05-30 04:30:50 · answer #2 · answered by Daver 7 · 1 0

I am eagerly waiting for the return of the ancient liturgy and for the exit of the Novus ordo Mass and all its innovations. I just read that the Pope desires to bring the Tridentine Mass back and that is great news.

There have been no restricitons on the Tridentine Mass. It has just been relegated to the background. No one can stop a priest from celebrating the Mass of his ancestors and if he is restricted in any way I can just see something fishy in that attitude. The destruction of the liturgy has been caused by introducing languages other than Latin into the Mass. The purity of the liturgy was ensured by all Catholic peoples all over the world by celebrating Mass in Latin. Now in the name of reform, various important prayers have been slashed and various languages have introduced their own errors into the Mass and in scripture.

The Tridentine Mass must make a comeback for the good of the Catholic church. It is no big deal to learn Latin. Priests and lay persons must bring back this rich legacy of the Catholic church and it will happen soon. The return of the Tridentine Mass will also restore the dignity of the Mass, bring back a prayerful atmosphere, avoid desecration of the Blessed Sacrament and the altar, save souls, create vocations and bring back the importance of the priest at the altar.

The Catholic people instead of being divided by ridiculous labels like 'traditional', 'conservative', etc must rally together to bring back their rightful rich liturgical legacy and must voice their one desire for the return of the traditional Latin Mass.

2007-05-27 03:41:20 · answer #3 · answered by Pat 3 · 3 1

Me personally I enjoy the mass spoken in my own language, It helps me to better understand & to appreciate the mass more. I know very very little Latin,but I know it is a beautiful language with deep roots. I wish that they would offer Latin classes at church. (if the priest is going to be speaking in Latin, would be nice to understand what he is saying.)
Also I don't think that I could get my mother to attend Mass if it was not in English. (My mom is not Catholic but she does attend Mass every now & then with me, would be sad if she had to stop because she could'nt understand what was being said)
Hope this helps to answer your question

2007-05-27 09:26:59 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

nicely for one, the Tridentine Mass, or the Latin Mass is already being completed, for some parishes. jointly because it extremely is genuine that the mass isn't completed interior the unique language of Christ, the Church in its early formation did predominantly talk in Latin, by way of presence of Rome. jointly because it could seem harsh to have it completed with the help of the "oppressors", it is clever to apply a language that maximum folk spoke. for sure by way of Roman conquest, Latin became language common and utilized with the help of maximum international places interior the section at that factor. It presented a cohesion then to have each and every little thing written in a language that maximum could comprehend. It extremely does not be ordinary to no longer enable somebody to comprehend something which you think of must be of earnings to them, in basic terms by way of fact it became in a diverse language. It presented a cohesion or catholicity in case you will, to the Church. subsequently the Church used Latin for hundreds of years, and jointly because it is clever to permit others to talk it of their own language, and it is nicely stable to take action. It extremely exhibits a cohesion to the Church nonetheless, in spite of our diverse languages, there nonetheless would be a mass that each and all and sundry people can comprehend no remember the place they're, be it Rome, u . s . a . of america, Germany, Africa...i comprehend that it is nicely high-quality in my travels that i will flow to a mass that I and positively everyone else, no remember what their nationality can comprehend. It provides a good closer cohesion to the mass, and the persons who have faith in it everywhere in the globe.

2016-10-06 02:47:55 · answer #5 · answered by philibert 4 · 0 0

I think the controversy is due to the fact that most dont speak/read/ understand Latin.

I myself enjoy the traditionalism of Latin mass and now, at 38 having attended mass only in English, I think I could tranlate pretty well what they/we are saying.

I think a good compromise would be to offer 1 Mass a week in Latin for those that would like to attend or are curious.

2007-05-26 14:03:02 · answer #6 · answered by yarmiah 4 · 2 2

Omg!! I'm not Catholic!! call the cops!! Get a band aid!!


Dude, you think "________ People Only" is gunna keep others out? No way, man!

2007-05-26 14:01:08 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 7

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