Why do people say "Christians believed the world was flat"? Isaiah 40:22 says round./ all atheist propaganda?

Question

To make Christians appear ignorant. Many unbelieving scientists believed the world was flat. If they had read the Bible they could have arrived at the truth much sooner.
Amos 9:6 also indicates a round earth.
For the anal scientific types---oblate spheroid. I went to college too. If you want to say bad things--at least use truth in your slander---The Christian faith is one of the first evidences that the world was round, and since Isaiah had no satelite images--he must have gotten his knowledge from God. Who else could have told Isaiah the world was round?

lets torq did you use a dictionary to get those big words. Because they are not obviously in your regular vocabulary. You are just mad because one of your favorite points to ridicule about Christianity has just been proven a myth. And don't even try to pretend to be scary, you are harmless.

lets torq did you use a dictionary to get those big words. Because they are not obviously in your regular vocabulary. You are just mad because one of your favorite points to ridicule about Christianity has just been proven a myth. And don't even try to pretend to be scary, you are harmless.

Answer 1

Let me just give you some other prophecies that were given in the bible about scientifc facts we know today, long before those facts were known(all 66 books in the bible were written between 2000 & 4000 years ago).

1)The earth floats free in space(Job 26:7)---Job was written 4000 years ago. No one knew this fact 4000 years ago.

2)Creation is made of particle, indiscernible to our eyes(atoms, molecules, electrons,.......)(Hebrews 11:3)--- Not until the 19th century was that known.

3)There are mountains on the bottom of the ocean(Jonah 2:5,6)---This was discovered in the last century.

4)Blood is the source of life and health(Leviticus 17:11,14)---Up until 120 years ago, sick people were "bled" and many died as a result(e.g. George Washington). Today we know that healthy blood is necessary to bring life giving nutrients to every cell in the body. God declared that "the life of the flesh is in the blood" long before science understood it's function.

5)Our bodies are made of the dust of the ground(Genesis 2:7;3:19)----Scientists have discovered that the human body is comprised of 28 trace elements, all of which are found in the earth.
6) The universe had a beginning(Genesis 1:1; Hebrews 1:10-12)---Starting with the studies of Albert Einstein in the early 1900's, science has confirmed the biblical view that the universe had a beginning. When the bible was written most people believed that the universe was eternal. Science has proven them wrong but the bible was correct.

7) The earth is a sphere(Isaiah 40:22)---At the time when many thought the earth was flat, the bible told us that the earth is spherical. Incidently, for those who call christians 'flat earthers', that verse is 2700 years old. This is just to re-enforce the info you gave in your question.

8)Scripture assumes a revolving spherical earth(Luke 17:34-36)----Jesus said that at his return some would be asleep at night while others would be working at daytime activities in the field. This is a clear indication of a revolving earth with day and night occurring simultaneously.

9)Light can be divided(Job 38:24)---Sir Isaac Newton studied light and discovered that white light is made of 7 colors, which can be parted and then recombined. Science confirmed this 400 years ago, The Bible declared this 4000 years ago.

10)The continents were created as one large land mass(Genesis 1:9,10)---Many geologists agree that the earth was originally one super continent.
11)Hydrological cycle described(Job 36:27,28)---About4000 years ago the bible declared that God "draws up drops of water which distills as rain from the mist which the clouds drop down and pour abundantly on man". The ancients observed mighty rivers flowing into the ocean, but they could not conceive why the sea level never rose.. Though they observed rainfall they had only quaint theories as to it's origin. Meteorologists now understand that the hydrological cycle consists of evaporation, atmospheric transportation,distillation and precipitation.

12)Circumcision on the 8th day is ideal(Genesis 17:12)---Medical science has discovered that the blood clotting chemical Prothrombin peaks in a newborn on the 8th day. This is therefore, the safest day to circumcise a baby. If you do it before that he'll bleed to death. How did Moses know that?

13)The universe is expanding(Job9:8,Isaiah42:5,Je... 51:15,Zechariah12:1 and other verses)---Seventeen times in the Old Testament it says that "God is stretching the heavens". During the 20th century most scientists(including Einstein) believed the universe was static. Others believed it should have collapsed due to gravity. Then in 1929 astronomer Edwin Hubble showed distant galaxies were receding from the earth and the further away they were, the faster they were moving. This discovery revolutionized the field of astronomy. Einstein admitted his mistake and today most astronomers agree with what the creator told us thousands of years ago--the universe is expanding.

14)Light travels in a path(Job 38:19)--- Light is said to have a "way"{Hebrew:derek, literally a traveled path or road]. Until the 17th century it was believed that light was transmitted instantaneously. We now know that light is a form of energy that travel at 186,000 miles per second in a straight line. Indeed, there is a way of light.
15)Air has weight(Job 28:25)--- It was once thought that air was weightless. Yet 4000 years ago Job declared that God established "a weight for the wind".

16)Ocean currents anticipated(Psalms 8:8)----About 3000 years ago the bible describles the "paths of the sea". In the 19th century Mathew Maury...the father of oceanography, after reading Psalms chapter 8, researched and discovered ocean currents that follow specific paths through the seas.

I could go on and on but it's late. I've got to go to sleep.

Contrary to all the jibberish you hear in todays secular humanist public schools about how we used to believe a lot of myths in the bible and then science came along and proved the bible wrong.....on the contrary, the bible was way ahead of science. Even though the bible is not a scientific book, when it does speak on science it is accurate. To quote Robert Jastrow:

"This is an exceedingly strange development, unexpected by all but the theologians. They have always accepted the word of the Bible: In the beginning God created heaven and earth... [But] for the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; [and] as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries."
- Robert Jastrow
(God and the Astronomers [New York: W.W. Norton and Co., 1978], 116. Professor Jastrow was the founder of NASA’s Goddard Institute, now director of the Mount Wilson Institute and its observatory.)

PS---Robert Jastrow is not a christian. He's a former atheist who today calls himself an agnostic.

Answer 2

Actually, people conjectured a spherical earth before Isaiah. Did these ancient Greeks and Indians get their knowledge from God, seeing as how they didn't have satelite images? No, they used logic and reason.

Yajnavalkya (c. 9th–8th century BC) recognized that the Earth is spherical in his astronomical text Shatapatha Brahmana. This is also recognized in another Vedic Sanskrit text Aitareya Brahmana composed around the same time, and in a later Sanskrit commentary Vishnu Purana.

Pythagoras (b. 570 BC) found harmony in the universe and sought to explain it. He reasoned that Earth and the other planets must be spheres, since the most harmonious geometric form was a circle.

Plato (427 BC - 347 BC) travelled to southern Italy to study Pythagorean mathematics. When he returned to Athens and established his school, Plato also taught his students that Earth was a sphere. If man could soar high above the clouds, Earth would resemble "a ball made of twelve pieces of leather, variegated, a patchwork of colours."

Aristotle (384 BC - 322 BC) was Plato's prize student and "the mind of the school." Aristotle observed "there are stars seen in Egypt and [...] Cyprus which are not seen in the northerly regions." Since this could only happen on a curved surface, he too believed Earth was a sphere "of no great size, for otherwise the effect of so slight a change of place would not be quickly apparent." (De caelo, 298a2-10)

Aristotle provided physical and observational arguments supporting the idea of a spherical Earth: Every portion of the earth tends toward the center until by compression and convergence they form a sphere. (De caelo, 297a9-21)
Travelers going south see southern constellations rise higher above the horizon; and
The shadow of Earth on the Moon during a lunar eclipse is round.(De caelo, 297b31-298a10)
The concepts of symmetry, equilibrium and cyclic repetition permeated Aristotle's work. In his Meteorology he divided the world into five climatic zones: Two temperate areas were separated by a torrid zone near the equator, as well as two cold inhospitable regions, "one near our upper or northern pole and the other near the ... southern pole," both impenetrable and girdled with ice (Meteorologica, 362a31-35). Although no humans could survive in the frigid zones, inhabitants in the southern temperate regions could exist.

Answer 3

All you have to do is observe that the shadow the Earth makes on the moon during a lunar eclipse is a circle. Or that ships disappear hull first, sails last over the horizon. God is an unnecessary explanation for humans understanding the world to be round. Perhaps Isaiah was smart enough to figure it out for himself.

Meanwhile, on the basis of other points in the Bible that imply the earth to be flat, the Church prevented Copernicus from publishing during his lifetime, and put Galileo on trial. So if they didn't believe the world to be flat, they were making an awful big show of it.

Answer 4

Well, well, well, and that is no three holes in the ground. I am amazed. Could it be that we had truth, before the world had it. That was so well found out. Good for you. Keep up the truth finding.
Again, what did you say, God revealed truth to man before scientists could find it. You mean there was something super-natural about Isaiah, having truth before natural man? Does that have any implications for greater populations than the scientific population

Answer 5

circle, chuwg (round and flat).
spherical, duwr ( a ball).
isaiah uses chuwg not duwr.
if he were bright enough he could of worked out that the world was a sphere , like the greeks did, that only a spherical earth would cause the moon to phase as it does. but then again they thought that the moon generated its own light.

Answer 6

hmmm... I got confused... sorry, let me read it 100 times more... I disagree with you. I think what you meant was for believers to have critical minds... You see if you become an atheist you totally believe that there is no god and that would be the opposite of Christian belief since they believe in God.

Answer 7

I am an anal scientific type. People call me an oblate spheroid all the time. But I'm not anal retentive, I just like having my prostate milked several times per day.

Answer 8

When they were posting that a while back, I didn't even respond to it because I knew without even looking it was another example of their willful stupidity in either being trolls, or displaying a true inability to comprehend anything in the bible much less make an interpretation that was sensible. They're only here to troll. That's it.

Answer 9

Isaiah says quite clearly says "The CIRCLE of the earth" not the SPHERE.

And to remove any doubt that he is referring to a flat earth, he likens the heavens to a tent, with the Earth as the floor.

Answer 10

Isaiah did it by association. The Moon is round therefore it's reasonable to assume that the Earth is. No Sky boss involved.