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What are your thoughts on this.
There is this very interesting verse in John 3-13 where the Lord Jesus says..
" and no one has ascended into heaven, but He Who decended out of heaven, the Son of Man, who is in heaven"

The thought of going to heaven has really just been taken for granted by mainstream christianity today. No one really considers that there is a different ending to the bible.
That there is "the New Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God.. as a bride adorned for her husband" Rev 21-2
The only bride type in the bible is the Church as the Bride of Christ.. but she comes OUT of heaven from God..
but where does all this end?

Vs 1 of chapter 21 speaks of the New Heaven and the New earth.. that the New Jerusalem is the bride of CHrist.. the CHurch is this bride..
I find this view extreemly facinating and worthy of further investigation.
may we not be gullible believers in Christ. but be those who KNOW the word because we took the Time to read it ourselves.

2007-05-25 19:29:43 · 7 answers · asked by Broken Alabaster Flask 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

One lady answered that the following verses indicate that we are going to heaven
I believe that she is referring to John 3-16..
the thing about this verse is that we have added in .. in our own minds and by what we have been taught that
" for God so loved the world that He gave His only Begotten Son .. that everyone who be believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life..( we assume right away that " IN HEAVEN " is the rightful ending of this verse
But the Bible did NOT say or add in heaven!

2007-05-25 20:20:44 · update #1

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The Jehovah's Witnesses have a different view of Heaven. They believe that there will be 144,000 which i think is the "great crowd" mentioned in the Bible. These are anointed Christians who will rule the new Heavens and Earth along side Him. There will be a great Resurrection of the millions and billions of people, and at the end of the Great Tribulation the Resurrected ones will live for 1,000 years becoming perfect again as Adam and Eve were, all the while being judged on our conduct. During this thousand years Satan and his demons will be shut up or imprisoned so he does not have control over mankind. after the thousand years he will be "loosed for a little while" , and those faithful to God will have a place in the new Paradise Earth, while those who do not will be "abolished" (i think that's the word used) which means that their soul will be destroyed that they will "be no more". They will not literally be burned with fire in hell, but will simply not exist any more. (fire symbolizes destruction in the bible, not torture in fire and brimstone. God IS love. He is not a vengeful God)

2007-05-25 19:33:45 · answer #1 · answered by vergodusk 2 · 0 1

I may not be correct, but to me, the New Jerusalem could also mean the new world that God will create after He destroys the old, current universe during the Apocalypse. On that day or period of time, all the people would ascend to heaven to be judged accordingly. A verse in Ephesians says, "For by grace are ye saved through faith; though not of yourselves, it is the grace of God." Salvation means being saved from this temporary world and being given the promise of living with God in heaven forever. Also, when Jesus ascended into heaven roughly a month after He was resurrected, it was said that quite a large number of souls also went up with Him. Our religion, Christianity, is almost all based on believing.

2007-05-25 19:39:00 · answer #2 · answered by curious. 2 · 0 0

Sometimes reading the Bible can be incredibly difficult, because we would like to believe that all of the events fit into some chronological order. And for the most part, they seem to. But sometimes...temporal logic just won't cut it. I believe that when Christ said "And no one has ascended into heaven..." I think that is a direct explanation of the afterlife before the Crucification and Resurrection of Christ. It is held true in the Church that no one ever went to Heaven nor did they ascend to Heaven before Christ came to free us from sin. I even remember seeing an icon (I'm Eastern Orthodox) where Christ is holding the hands of Adam and Eve, crashing the gates of Hell, and lifting them and the souls of the others to Heaven. But getting into Heaven, in the long run, shouldn't be so...competitive. We shouldn't be so oversimplifying of what Heaven and Hell are...we don't know what it's like. We just have to trust in God that His Will is done. If we all go to Heaven, then it is our gift from Him. If not all of us do, then it is also His Will. But interesting concern you have there. Very significant.

"Like everything in understand God, His Mystery and Man...it is best to approach this with Fear and Trembling..."

2007-05-25 19:38:43 · answer #3 · answered by Mr. Jankovich 3 · 0 0

John 3-13 where the Lord Jesus says..
" and no one has ascended into heaven, but He Who decended out of heaven, the Son of Man, who is in heaven"
where is the rest of this paragraph? also if you read on in John, Jesus has prepared a place for us in Heaven. and warns us of hell. Most assuridly I say to you, unless you are born again you will not see the kingdom of God.

2007-05-25 19:53:46 · answer #4 · answered by Kristenite’s Back! 7 · 0 0

God speaks of a place where Harvard and pizza coexists together and where lesbians and Jews and Christians can get along with each other. In peace and in harmony, he paves a road made of crystal sairs the kind that makes a glint

2007-05-25 19:35:12 · answer #5 · answered by ibid 3 · 0 0

in accordance to Catholic custom, you spend a delegated volume of time in purgatory while you're Baptized. Saints and Popes pass there too, they only get out quicker than the common individual. because of the fact purgatory is a cleansing technique formerly entering heaven. i'm unsure how precise it fairly is, yet i think in case you probably did something fairly undesirable, yet have been nevertheless Baptized, you pass to hell till Jesus returns and collects his "flock". then you definately pass to heaven with all and sundry else.

2016-10-08 03:38:20 · answer #6 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

The book of revelations has a little bit to say about it....

2007-05-25 19:41:44 · answer #7 · answered by Jensenfan 5 · 0 0

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