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Question

Did you know the Catholic Church voted to determine weather women had souls? We bearly made it by a few votes. The poor animals lost though. Even though the Vedas say animals do have souls, as do all living beings. The proof of the soul is the life within the body. (Animal body, insect body, plant, body), they are just bodies, we are the soul? Don't you know this simple truth? If not, that is considered animal consciousness.

Answer 1

DUST + BREATH = SOUL

The Biblical definition of a soul is simply a breathing body. Notice that the text does not say that man was given a soul, but rather he became a soul. A soul is not something a person has, it is the person. Souls have blood (Jeremiah 2:34). Not only are people souls, but so are fish and animals (Revelation 16:3).

The Hebrew word for soul, nephesh, is variously translated "person" (Genesis 14:21), "self" (Leviticus 11:43), "life" (Psalm 31:13), "me" (Judges 16:30), "creature" (Genesis 1:21), "beast" (Leviticus 24:18), "man" (2 Kings 12:4), "thing" (Ezekiel 47:9), and "fish" (Isaiah 19:10). When translated "body" the nephesh is usually dead (Leviticus 21:11).

The Greek word for soul, psuche, has the same meaning. In Matthew 16:25 Jesus commends anyone who will lose his soul (psuche) for Christ’s sake. It is often translated simply as "life" (Matthew 2:20). It means "person" (Acts 7:14). "My soul" and "your soul" are idiomatic expressions meaning "I" and "you" (Matthew 12:18; 2 Corinthians 12:15, margin).

Answer 2

Vedic scriptures, Bhagavad Gita, Katha Upanishad ... have already foretold that the subject matter of soul is amazing.

Some look on the soul as amazing, some describe him as amazing, and some hear of him as amazing, while others, even after hearing about him, cannot understand him at all.
http://vedabase.net/bg/2/29/en1

Therefore, is not at all surprising since the knowledge of the soul is not very explicitly mentioned in the bible. As faithful followers of the bible sentimentally without any philosophical basis of the truth of soul, it is natural that they concoct and speculate regarding the soul etc.... Jesus Christ was preaching God consciousness to a class of people who were not very advanced in knowledge and therefore, the very basics like, stealing, killing, lying etc... had to told as the ten commandments. Though Jesus Christ knew about the spirit soul, within the animal body, insect body, plant body etc..., still he did not disclose everything to them except in some places, like when he said that there is no profit even if one possesses the wealth of the whole world but lose the knowledge of the eternal spirit soul. Since people were absorbed in the sinful activities, he did not yet give them the higher knowledge. Even one of the disciple, Judas betrayed him and some of the disciples upon inquiry of their identity, denied of having any connection with him.

The Vedas (knowledge books), say that the body has birth and death and is temporary whereas the the soul which is not born and does not die is eternal. The Vedas state that just like a person wears new clothes upon giving up the
old clothes, similarly the old body is given up (death) to take up another new body (birth). As per the activities one performs in the body, one get another body upon death.

It is not that God, who is the same to Christians, Muslims, Hindus etc..., gives a body which is man or woman, poor or rich, beautiful or ugly, learned or poor etc.... Otherwise the impartial all merciful God would be the cause of putting someone in a advantageous position and other in a disadvantageous position due to discrimination.

It is a fact that without the consciousness which is the symptom of the soul, the body is no more living but a dead lump of matter.

Prabhpada states during a conversation:
But in the Western countries this is the disease, vox populi. Socrates said there is soul, and he was killed because vox populi was against. Christ was killed because vox populi was against. This is the defect of the Western civilization. During the lifetime of Christ, nobody accepted. When he was killed, or crucified, then the other saintly persons, they gave their experience, what they learned from Jesus Christ. Christ could not give any words. Some sporadic words were there, and the Bible was made on that basis. Actually, the Bible is not the word, directly words of Christ.

Amogha: That must be why it says, "The Gospel according to John," "The Gospel according to Mark."

Answer 3

The Catholic Church, religions in general have goofed up many things in the past. Religions are run by people, and people sin, whether they have a religious title or not.

I believe we humans have BODY, SOUL and SPIRIT. Body -just like other plants, animals - the physical, chemical, electrical, biological processes. The SOUL - The part of the brain that houses the Mind, Will, and Emotions - the part that gives us personality, but a dog can have a personality too. Also contains the instinct in us - where we make choices. What sets us apart from the rest of creation is we also have a Spirit - the part that will live in Hell or Heaven forever, the part that has a connection to the spirit world, the part that has (or can have) a connection with God.

Answer 4

The Catholic Church teaches that all living things have souls, but only human beings have souls that are immortal.

As for your concern about voting ... the apostles established the councilar system at the first church council of Jerusalem, and the church has continued to use it ever since.

When all the bishops and the pope agree together on a matter of faith, at a duly called council of the church, and then reduce their decree to writing, for the benefit of the whole church, that decision is considered to be just as inerrant as the scriptures, courtesy of the Holy Spirit.

I would think you would be happy that the church took it upon themselves to affirm the eternal dignity of the human female, as most of the world at that time considered women to be less than the equal of men.

You should also note that the Catholic Church considers the Blessed Virgin Mary, who is most certainly a woman, to be the Queen of Heaven, more powerful in Christ than even the angels, and second only to God.

That's not too shabby ... for anybody ... woman or man.

Answer 5

The belief that the Church once taught that women had no souls is a common one. The story is that the bishops at the Council of Nicea in 323 AD had a heated debate on this very issue. They took a vote on it, and the "pro-souls" side won - by one vote! This is but one version of a rumor which has made the rounds for centuries.

The actual historical event which became the basis for this rumor did not happen at the Council of Nicea or any other ecumenical council in Church history, but in a local Synod in France in 585 AD.

For further info on the subject:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/5743/object.html
http://www.firstthings.com/article.php3?id_article=3672

Answer 6

The apostle Paul said that where there is a physical body there is a spiritual body. I was raised kind of lapsed Catholic-don't even get me started!!

I'm not Hindu, so I don't know about the vedas or "animal consciousness." But I would think that most animals have a kind of soul, even though it would seem theirs is incorruptible, unlike ours. I would not think, for example, that they were conscious of sin.

Answer 7

THTS PATHETIC-ONE OF THE WORST EFFORTS AT PATRIARCHY! REALLY HORRIBLE! I CONDEMN THIS.
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if this is the truth about catholic religion u can call me anti catholic.but if women do not have soul acc to Catholic Church why does Bible talk about an afterlife for all humans including women? its clearly a patriarchal effort.its equal to saying tht women are "non living" beings. Lord Krishna says in Bhagvat Gita - "the saint looks at the soul in the similar way within a dog, a chandaala or a human"ie the knowledgeable doesnt discriminate at all. Three million cheers for Lord Krishna.

Answer 8

The bible states "God breath into man the breath of live and man became a living soul". I suppose the church did not have the benifit of "political correctness" that we use today so did not understand that the word "man" also includes females.

Answer 9

we are born spiritual (sub soncscious) emotional, mental and physical... We function whole... as one onto ourselves... when the church isn't in the way stealing our spirits... it's a beautiful experience.
the church is quite bias against women.... that is why the priest don't get married they fear them... it is written some day a woman will take down the church...

Answer 10

This is the third time (that I know of) that you have posted this claim without documentation.

Please cite the documents or provide links to your claim so that the rest of us can do proper research.

Without substantiating your claim it is hard to reconcile this "new" attack when Catholics are also accused of worshipping female saints (like the Blessed Virgin Mary) as goddesses.

With love in Christ.