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According to OLD TESTAMENT a MESSIAH will come to save us.CHRISTIANS believe JESUS to be the MESSIAH but JEWS are still waiting for him. If JESUS is not the MESSIAH then when will the original MESSIAH arrive and how will we recognise him?

2007-05-25 16:29:49 · 35 answers · asked by VILAS S 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

35 answers

Here why we don't believe that Jesus was the messiah in simple terms:
1) The dead were not resurrected
2) The Jews did not beome priests to the other nations
3) There is no world peace
4) The temple is not standing
5) There is no temple service
6) There is no parah adumah or its ashes to render us tahor
7) The messiah is from the House of David. your house/tribe is inherited from your father. Your father is your BIOLOGICAL father- there is no adoption in Judaisim to another father- if God is the father of Jesus- then Jesus cannot be from the House of David as God is not frm the House of David.

And no- the messiah does NOT proclaim himself- he will be recognised by his deeds- not by his claims- in other words, through doing the above he will be recognised as the messiah. On top of that- mashiach is a HUMAN being, with HUMAN parents- the idea of an anthropomorphised God going around and impregnating young woman is completely alien to Judaism- though it fits very nicely into the pagan religions of the time which had therr heroes being fathered by gods (ala Hercules and his daddy Zeus)

2007-05-28 00:29:46 · answer #1 · answered by allonyoav 7 · 2 0

While I am not a Jew per se except by my ancestry, in reading some of the answers I felt compelled to jump in on a couple of answers that stated a Messianic Jew is not a Jew. The only difference between a traditional Jew and a Messianic Jew is that the traditional Jews are still waiting for their Messiah. When a Jew has come to the realization that Jesus Christ is in fact the Messiah as prophesized, I have heard that individual referred to as a "completed" Jew. However, on the statement by an answerer that even a Rabbi does not recognize a Messianic Jew as Jewish is of no surprise as many of the Jews rejected Jesus when He walked the earth, so what compelling reason would a non-believing Jew have to accept a "completed" Jew?. However - both Christians and Jews believe the Old Testament to be the inspired Word of God. That being said, the dominant difference between the two is acceptance and belief that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and Messiah.

The One and only Messiah did arrive and shall return. But when He walked the earth as a Man - He did not meet "man's" expectations even to some Gentiles - He did not solve everyone's problems, rather empowered them to solve their own problems. Key word there is empowered. And knowing that mankind overall would not be able to get out of its own way so to speak - Jesus paid the ultimate sacrifice asking in return for belief that He is the One True Son of God and therefore the Way to everlasting life. Man's concept - be it Jew or any other belief system - typically is tunnel vision. The inability to see the "big picture". Even Christians get stuck in that box. What many fail to realize is that true Christianity is not a religious belief, it is a relationship. That a Jew has found his/her Messiah does not negate the fact of this individual's Judaism and heritage. A rose by any other name is still a rose - I believe it was Shakespeare that made that observation.

2007-06-02 00:33:45 · answer #2 · answered by scorp5543 3 · 0 2

answer: try using bar - this gets asked constantly. You're incorrect in saying Jews didn't give Jesus a chance, they weren't responsible for his death - Romans executed a criminal. No world peace, no messiah. The legend surrounding Jesus proves that he wasn't the messiah: divine birth/divinity - strike (the Jewish Messiah will be human) performing miracles - strike (JM won't perform miracles) taking on the sins of others - strike (no one can take on the sins of others) breaking Sabbath - strike (JM will be observant) sacrificed/rising from the dead - strike (G-d rejects human sacrifice) prophecies unfilled - strike (JM will accomplish them in one life time) being worshiped - strike and out - Jews worship G-d and only G-d Islam is a false religion to Judaism and Christianity - Mohammad (mhnbf) tried to change Judaism and Christianity - that's a false prophet to those religions. History has proven that point. There would be NO glories for a Jew or Christian in converting, that would break the covenants they already have with G-d. Conquering is right. That's not a religion one would be proud of.

2016-05-18 00:16:52 · answer #3 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

There were people who believed in Christ, who know what/who He really was. They broke off from the main branch of the Jews and followed Christ- hence the name Christians. There were some that believed, but were too scared of the Jewish leaders to admit that they believed. Then there were the total unbelievers. They were the ones who still upheld Mosaic Law, still followed all the old laws, and still do to this day.

The third group are the Jewish people today. Well, at least some of them are. Others came from other parts of the area. They still hold to the Mosaic Law and they will until Christ comes again.

Someone talked about it being weird that they didn't believe because Christ is part of the Trinity. Well, there are a lot of people who don't believe in the Trinity. The Jews are one of these groups. There are other religions out there that don't believe in the Trinity either. I am one of them. SO that isn't a valid argument.

Does that make the Jews wrong for what they believe? No. They believe something different then we do. Does that mean they won't be saved? No. It means they will have a lot to learn when Christ comes and they will get what they have been waiting for all these years. I say anyone that can hold to their beliefs the way the Jewish people do are good people. People who deserve our respect and our understanding. We need to stop bashing others that don't believe in the same things we do and start loving them for what they contribute to all of us.

2007-05-29 10:47:17 · answer #4 · answered by vijay p 2 · 0 1

Oh, I just love it when Christians answer for Jews -- like they know us and know our hearts and minds. How condescending of you! Would you appreciate it if I, as a Jew, answered a question about Christians and presumed to know what you believe and how you feel? Not cool, people!
Oh, and I heartily second what Mark S said. If a Jew believes that Jesus is the Messiah, then that person is NOT a Jew. No Jewish people who do not believe that Jesus is the Messiah accepts them as Jewish. What if I was to say that I am a Christian but I do not believe that Jesus was the Messiah -- would that make sense to you?

2007-05-27 08:58:40 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

Well, when the prophecy was made in the Old Testament, it said that the Messiah would ride in on a white horse, save the people from bondage and lead the nation against it's foes. In those times, the bondage part was having to bow to the Romans. Their foes were anyone who didn't believe or live the Law of Moses. What I find interesting is all the times in the New Testament where Christ is "tempted" by the Saducees and Pharasees. They try to get him to either agree with the Law of Moses, or to go against it. He did neither. He would pick a way that was neither against it or for it, and that would show the group that they weren't thinking outside their own little boxes. They didn't realize that since Christ was the one who gave the Law of Moses to the Jews that He could be the one to change some of those laws.

He didn't come riding in on a white horse, proclaiming himself to be the Messiah in a loud voice. He was quiet about the way he did things- except those few times when he rebuked the money changers and the venders in the temple. But he never once proclaimed Himself to be the devine conqueror or Savior that the Jews thought he would be.

He didn't overthrow the government in those days- Romans. And in fact, he told the people that they should still pay taxes, still obey Roman law and should forgive them for what they did to the people. They tried to get Him to work on a plot to overthrow the local government, but Christ wouldn't do it. They tried to get Him to say that the government was wrong, but instead, it seemed to some that he upheld the government.

He healed on the Sabbath, which to them was breaking the Sabbath. He walked too many steps on the Sabbath, He taught on the Sabbath. Both of those were against what they interperted the Law of Moses to say. In so doing, He was against Mosaic Law.

There were people who believed in Christ, who know what/who He really was. They broke off from the main branch of the Jews and followed Christ- hence the name Christians. There were some that believed, but were too scared of the Jewish leaders to admit that they believed. Then there were the total unbelievers. They were the ones who still upheld Mosaic Law, still followed all the old laws, and still do to this day.

The third group are the Jewish people today. Well, at least some of them are. Others came from other parts of the area. They still hold to the Mosaic Law and they will until Christ comes again.

Someone talked about it being weird that they didn't believe because Christ is part of the Trinity. Well, there are a lot of people who don't believe in the Trinity. The Jews are one of these groups. There are other religions out there that don't believe in the Trinity either. I am one of them. SO that isn't a valid argument.

Does that make the Jews wrong for what they believe? No. They believe something different then we do. Does that mean they won't be saved? No. It means they will have a lot to learn when Christ comes and they will get what they have been waiting for all these years. I say anyone that can hold to their beliefs the way the Jewish people do are good people. People who deserve our respect and our understanding. We need to stop bashing others that don't believe in the same things we do and start loving them for what they contribute to all of us.

2007-05-26 05:36:55 · answer #6 · answered by odd duck 6 · 1 2

Many people claimed to be the Messiah, Jesus just had a better publicists than most of the other ones. the end.

Oh by the way, there is no "The Messiah", Messiah is a title, like President. There can be more than one, there were messiahs before Jesus was even born.

Also, Rabbi Hillel preached living your neighbor well before the time of Jesus. and the Torah says that you should "not do to others what is hateful to you" which predates both of them by at least a thousand years.

2007-05-25 16:43:36 · answer #7 · answered by Don't Fear the Reaper 3 · 2 1

The jews were looking for a Messiah that would be coming on a white horse to deliver them from the Romans. Jesus came lowly and upon and donkey. Jesus came walking in Love, the Jews rejected Him because of that. They did not understand that Jesus would have two arrivals on earth. The first to give His sinless life to bring salvation and the second to physically place all of His enemies under His feet.
Any one that denys That Jesus is the Messiah that came in the flesh is of the spirit of anti-christ. Jesus warned that they would come. The muslims say Jesus was a prophet but deny He is the Messiah therefore they fit into the group Jesus warned against.

2007-05-25 16:41:04 · answer #8 · answered by wordoflifeb216 3 · 2 3

jews don't believe in the new testament, meaning they dont believe jesus ever performed any miracles. jews believe jesus was just an ordinary man. when the messiah comes, jews will know, and he will lead the jewish people back to the land of israel.

2007-05-25 16:34:04 · answer #9 · answered by answerman 2 · 1 0

The Apostle Paul goes over this in the letter to the Roman Church in the Christian Scriptures, "Though the people of Israel are as numerous as the sand of the seashore, only a remnant will be saved."

Paul also says that not all physical descendants of Abraham are truly children of Abraham. This is evident in the ancient Jewish prophets "I became disgusted with [Judah] and rejected her just as I rejected [Israel]." But the Lord God Almighty goes on later to say that he will take both Judah and Israel back after a time.

Oh, and "Don't fear the reaper" - Moses spoke of "A prophet like me" and many of the prophets spoke of "a coming one." Messiah means annointed, or chosen by God. Christ means the same thing. The Lord God Almighty spoke of "the serpent will bruise his heal, but he will crush its head" in Genesis. David foretells of a coming one many times in the Psalms. It is no suprise a Jewish Rabbi would teach what Jesus Christ preached, considering the fact that Christ and the Jewish Scriptures are linked, Christ being the author of the Scriptures and the fullfiller of their purpose.

2007-05-25 16:49:02 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

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