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I mean there are other views besides the Christian one. If we are to allow this view as Intelligent Design, then we should be teaching all others.
Buddhist
Zoroastrian
Native American
Hindu

I mean they have beliefs that are just as valid as Intelligent Design (as proposed by Christians), why not?

Oh, I know .. because that would be taught in a Religious Theory class not Science!
Leave Science where it is, and have students select electives in Highschool that would include other Religious Beliefs ..
This way they are exposed and have the choice to make their own decisions, on which religion they would like to believe or not over science.

2007-05-25 13:52:32 · 18 answers · asked by Sapere Aude 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

How is Intelligent Design pure science?

How do you go from I don't know what caused the "Big Bang" or first explosion.

To God started it all, and it had a purpose, and that was you?

I don't get it.

2007-05-25 13:58:22 · update #1

Definition if Intelligent Design...
Is that it accepts that our universe and ultimate creation, was designed by a supernatural being.

Not by Nature....
Do not try to convince me that it isn't pointing to a "God Theory" ... It is.... and you cannot deny it....

Nature is nature... supernatural forces are just that in the realm of religion and myths and folklore .. thus the definition of Supernatural .. outside of Nature

2007-05-25 14:10:42 · update #2

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I don't mind intelligent design being taught as part of a comparative religion class.
I do mind it being taught in a science class, because it is not real science.

2007-05-25 13:57:20 · answer #1 · answered by Julia Sugarbaker 7 · 7 1

I do not believe in intelligent design. I do believe in evolution. I'm embarrassed about how others that believe in evolution have treated those in favor of intelligent design so intolerantly.

I know my voice of reason here will be drowned in the sea of prejudice, but I'm going to go ahead and give the one and only possible correct answer to your question:

1. Intelligent Design is *not* science. What it is is doubt about a specific scientific notion - that evolution alone explains the diversity of life (There are gaps where there is currently no explanation, but might be in the future.)
2. Intelligent Design is not Christian themed. Indeed, I find it odd that "secularists" can't see that it's basically a capitulation that evolution is true and gives you everything you want.
3. Evolutionary theory has a number of gaps that can't be explained. Intelligent Design exploits these gaps by suggesting a creator may explain them. As science continues to explain these gaps without a creator, I imagine intelligent design will die of a natural death, just like "pure creationism" did. I'm in no hurry to kill it out of faith in science. To do so would be to enforce one religious belief upon another using the legal system. This is wrong.
4. You assume too much in the idea that evolutionary theory is a truth accessible to everyone. I had to spend years studying it before accepting it. I seriously doubt most that believe in evolution have actually any idea of the pros and cons of the argument like I do. Thus they are really accepting it on faith.
5. The truth of evolutionary theory is an "inaccessible truth" to most people who don't have the time to studying it out like I did. Thus we shouldn't expect them to simply have faith that it's true. (How would you feel if someone expect you to have faith in "pure creationism" because "God told them so?" Wouldn't that be an equally inaccessible truth for you?)
6. I would assert that those that oppose evolution using intelligent design are not doing so to promote their religion. I assert they are doing so because they honestly believe it's incorrect and they are trying to correct the error.
7. I assert that any attempt to force these people, misguided though they might be, to have their children in a public school where evolution is taught is is an act of the government supporting a single religious point of view.
8. I would assert that intelligent design is an attempt by the Christian right to make a bargain with those that believe in evolution and that it's a very very good bargain. There is no downside to those that believe in evolution.
9. I would assert that the only thing keeping intelligent design out of schools is prejudice and intolerance on the part of secularists.
10. I would assert that there will not be a single example of someone converting to Christianity from the teaching of intelligent design in schools. Heck, there won't even be a single case of someone starting to believe in God, frankly. Intelligent design is way too benign to cause something like that.
11. I would assert that we all have a political duty to help protect a parents right to teach their children as they are comfortable and see fit. (And no, saying “you have to go to a private school then!” Is not an acceptable answer unless that state allows full school vouchers so that the individuals in question don't have to pay twice for schooling, once through taxes and once for tuition.)
12. I assert that the only answer to this problem is to compromise. I find it interesting that the Christian right came up with such a wonderful compromise and that it's the “opened minded atheists” that can't compromise and are trying to use government power to enforce their point of view.

So I hope you'll consider carefully what I'm saying, one evolutionist to another, and will please stop trying to use legislation to control the way others think. I'm content that truth will come out on it's own over time. No need to enforce your faith on others until then.

2007-05-26 06:11:35 · answer #2 · answered by BryanN 2 · 0 0

You people posting links from Discovery do realize that it is a christian think tank. ID is simply a way for christians to get religion taught as science. There is NOTHING scientific about saying that there must be some form of intelligent being (aka God). That kind of logic would be akin to a child saying that since there are toys under the tree there must be a santa. I'm not saying thes is or there is not a god, but that logic is completely outside the rules of logic because it has no scientific proof of anything that actually can be proven.

2007-05-25 14:47:40 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

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2016-11-05 09:51:36 · answer #4 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Absolutely right. (And don't forget Pastafarianism). The Dover trial in 2005 showed that intelligent design's key textbook, Of Pandas and People, originally used the term "creationism" and when that was ruled unconstitutional they changed all such references to "design", but the book was otherwise the same. It is an attempt to sneak religion into schools. For their strategy see the leaked document http://www.antievolution.org/features/wedge.pdf

2007-05-25 14:07:19 · answer #5 · answered by jamesfrankmcgrath 4 · 3 0

Intelligent Design (id) is not a Christian theory or a religious theory at all, although it certainly can have theistic implications. Id is the study of certain things in nature and the universe that show definite signs of intelligent agency. Intelligence doesn't necessarily mean God..

http://www.discovery.org/csc/topQuestions.php

2007-05-25 14:17:23 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

ID is pure fiction. The only "evidence" for ID is the lack of evidence seen in certain parts of evolution. Making up an idea called "God/Creator" to explain what can't be explained is NOT science. Deal with that Daniel P.

2007-05-25 14:14:00 · answer #7 · answered by Mega 3 · 2 0

Some of the ID people do believe in some parts of evolution but say an intelligent desighner had a small role in it.They aregue for a desighner not a specific god.

2007-05-25 13:59:22 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Because America is predominately a Christian nation. Its not just limited to Christianity. Parts of the country with large Indian populations are seriously considering teaching that the Earth and humanity is trillions of years old. And I think the main argument of teaching ID is that although its incorporated religious aspects, its roots are scientific, setting it apart from other "origin" stories.

2007-05-25 14:01:44 · answer #9 · answered by j_money91 1 · 0 1

I agree completely. And here's the thing - the VAST majority of public school teachers agree as well. And we (I am a teacher) will NOT be teaching religion to our students in science class.

I'd sooner quit. And for the record, I DO believe in Intelligent Design. AND evolution.

To those who would infect our teaching with their religion, I say this: bring it on. You won't win.

2007-05-25 13:58:26 · answer #10 · answered by Huddy 6 · 4 1

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