heres what i understand:
The moment we die our "SPIRIT" is judged and sent to heaven or hell. Our physical bodies are awaiting ressurection on earth. When the saved are ressurected and raptured they go to the new heaven and new earth (said in revelation)
Ok.....heres what i don't get. Is the hell the spirit sent to directly after death the same hell the physical body is sent to for the unsaved at the white throne judgement?
please help.
2007-05-25 12:38:50 · 11 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
the great white throne judgement is when you are thrown into the lake of fire.
so what is the hell like your spirit goes too before being thrown into the lake of fire?
2007-05-25 12:45:53 · update #1
When you die the righteous go to Paradise and the unrighteous to Hades. There you stay until judgment day and Death and Hades give up their dead for judgment. Then its off to Heaven or Hell.
2007-05-25 12:45:35 · answer #1 · answered by Fish <>< 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
That is a theological question which can run down several rabbit trails to get an answer. But...
You have some conceptual problems: Eternity is not the same as "lots of time". The eternal realm is beyond time. So, defining the "moment" of death from the human view point does not equate to the divine view point.
The judgement of the GWT (Great White Throne) is NOT to decide where you are destined. It is the judgement for those who are already destined for eternal seperation from God.
This sometimes confuses those who want to make everything into a simple formula. God apparently is also into quality control, because he has the Angels do an inspection to make sure the judgement is true - they read for each name in the Book of Life, apparently to be sure there isn't a mistake.
The short answer is: The believer is taken directly to be with the Lord.
The Lost person goes to a place awaiting judgment. God already knows the destiny, so they go to the place of awaiting judgment. Some people call this "hell" or "hades".
After the GWT, the person is sent to the Lake of Fire. This is the place of great dread for all the lost souls. The final destiny, as it will be.
This is why Hell is a place of "gnashing of teeth" because the lost person KNOWs they are headed for judgment.
At the GWT, it says "every knee shall bow and every tongue confess". This isn't to say that all those lost people are now worshipping, but rather that their doom is set, they know the judgment is righteous and they are acknowledging God's glorious judgment.
"I knew I should have repented!!, but my heart was too hardened!! Jesus died for me, but I was too proud!! God's salvation WAS the only way!! I'm doomed, I know I sinned and rebelled against God - I deserve the Lake of Fire!"
"God, you WERE merciful to me! God, you did take my shame!! Jesus you did endure the cross for me!!"
But, they still go to the Lake of Fire.
NOW is the day of salvation! God calls everyone everywhere to repent NOW!! It will be too late then.
Quick note: Don't believe the guys who say your "body" doesn't go to Heaven or Hell.
The resurrection is a bodily resurrection. Jesus warned not to offend the one who can throw "the body" into hell.
Don't believe that "spirit" stuff. The lost will face an eternal doom in resurrected bodies. Perfect, eternal and doomed.
Chose life, receive the salvation of God now. The second after death it is too late.
2007-05-25 19:45:27 · answer #2 · answered by TEK 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
When you die, your physical body dies. It is your soul that either goes to Heaven or hell. But in hell you are aware of everything, the suffering and loss of your family, your own torture.
If you don't believe that you are not judged the moment you die, read the story of the rich man and the beggar Lazarus. Note the status of the rich man.
2007-05-25 19:42:10 · answer #3 · answered by arewethereyet 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
If you want to know what the hell that your spirit goes to is like then check out this video testimony.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3557441432446312669&q=video+husband+went+to+hell
This is an incredible Testimony of Bill Wiese and his supernatural "23 Minute Trip to Hell". Bill was placed in Hell not as a casual observer, but as someone who was not saved. He recounts all the horrid details with such precision that it captivates the listener from start to finish
2007-05-25 20:33:04 · answer #4 · answered by Martin S 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Once you die, it,s just your spirit, no more physical body. And every spirit is judged on judgement day. Not sure when the time starts, but i believe i read 1000 years untill all spirits are brought before god to be judged.
2007-05-25 19:47:26 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
No. St. Patrick and Swedenborg both said they saw a place that was neither heaven or hell. Swedenborg calls this the world of spirits that you enter into when you die. His book Heaven and Hell describes what happens when you die in detail.
2007-05-25 19:40:50 · answer #6 · answered by WhyNotAskDonnieandMarie 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
the flesh is in the dirt and isn't waiting for anything...the soul/ruach/pneuma is separated at death...flesh is only a container...no such thing as the rapture that's part of your problem right off the git go.. i used to believe that nonsense too..but that's another discussion..
what is hell? jesus was in HELL/Grave/hades for 3 days...the moment you die a flesh death your soul/ruach/pneuma goes back to God where it came from...Enoch describes 4 holding places for the souls of the dead...1) murder victims who cry out and are waiting to start the trial of their murderer...2)murderers and scum....3)non believers who are not scum/murderers etc..and 4) those that are saved...jesus saved the "prisoners" as it is written...he allowed to cross the GULF as it is described...when the rich man died and pleaded to go back to his family to WARN Them he could SEE Lazarus in the bosom of abraham...but he was DIVIDED from them and could not cross...salvation allows you to cross that threshold.
the white throne judgment/revelation 20 is NOT UNTIL AFTER the 1000 year millennium reign of Christ on earth...that's when ALL Souls, races, religions etc..are taught with no interference from satan/man/religion..only truth...then after that 1000 years as it is written...satan is loosed AGAIN....to tempt etc...then some fall and most don't...and THEN The Great white throne Judgment where souls hit the lake of fire....
better check your chronology to be sure but that's what i've got from Revelation 20.
2007-05-25 19:48:21 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
No.
There is an intermediate hell. It is the intermediate hell that is cast into the lake of fire.(Rev. 20:14)
2007-05-25 19:48:21 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
no flesh can live either in heaven or hell..the spirit goes up or down according to our belief that JESUS is the savior..and we spoke it..and name it and claimed it..
them who don't know him or recieved him..spiritually goes to hell..those who believe run and play and see GOD GLORY them we know will be there too..them we also know NOT there..they are in hell..them in hell see heavens..them in heaven DO NOT SEE HELL..the judgement day..can partily be of them in heaven..who tithe and not tithe? hard to be sure..i do know this..tithing is a LAW..yet..a blessing to oUR future..goats will go to hell..lambs go to heaven..so..the body return to DUST!! in heaven..they return with CHRIST..in the air..get their renewed BODY age looking 30..and it glorified and one can touch it..it not a ghost. them in hell.feels every pain..no comfort..full darkness..sound of screams..cries..blah blah. maybe can't move neither?
2007-05-25 19:47:14 · answer #9 · answered by blessedrobert 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
it's after we resurrect. Where in the bible do you find about judging spirits? We will get to judge the fallen angels, that's for sure.
When you're dead, you know nothing.
2007-05-25 19:41:02 · answer #10 · answered by Cyber 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋