Shouldn't we at least stick to the 1947 partition regarding Israel and Palestine borders?

Question

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I know there was war and many battles but isn't that like taking their land? If Zionists say they're land was stolen from them and we're just re-claiming it, isn't that doing to them what they did to you?

Is the greater Jerusalem area at least still international land?

what would one call it then?

Answer 1

That is a good question indeed. Israel was created by the UN plan and no one can deny this fact. Now Palestine was also created by the same plan and the term 2 state solution can go back to the partition plan. Now Israel problem with the rest of the world on that issue is Israel want to keep occupying land that was never part of Israel legally.

Answer 2

The 1947 land grant is insufficient. The Balfour Declaration which was established in the 1910's authorized a Jewish home land that would include the land that we know as modern Israel and Jordan. Today Israel only resides on less than 33% of that promised land. Biblically speaking God Granted Abraham, the father of the Jewish people, all the land between the Nile and Euphrates. So when we discuss the West Bank we really should ask ourselves of what river.

Answer 3

Israel agreed to the partition in 1948.

The Arab Muslims refused then the combined armies of the surrounding Arab (Muslim) nations attacked. That was the first war.

Another war came in 1956. Israel captured a lot of land from Egypt but gave it back.

Another war came in 1967. Israel captured a lot of land from Egypt, Syria and Jordan. Israel gave back the Sinai but when they also offered to give back the Gaza Strip, Egypt refused to take it, thus disowning those who lived there. Those who from 1948 to 1967 called themselves Egyptians.

Israel approached Jordan about the West Bank. Jordan refused to take the land back, thus doing the same as Egypt. Those who were called Jordanians from 1948 to 1967 were disowned.

So the disowned people of Egypt and Jordan had to find a new identity and started calling themselves Palestinians. And Barak gave Airafat an offer that even Prince Bandar of Saudi Arabia said was the best deal that Airafat would ever get and recommended he take it. Instead, Airafat goes and starts a war.

Lastly, you do not understand that Muslims have a totally different concept of Peace than we do in the west. For us in the West, Peace is not being at war. For the Muslims, peace is when everyone is Muslim. Saudi Arabia is at peace, everywhere else is at war. And as far as they are concerned, it will stay that way until the whole world is Muslim.

And it is not just Israel they want back. They are also making demands for some of Spain and more of India.

Answer 4

this question could be less difficult than it could seem, in case you in basic terms open a historic previous e book. as quickly as the british mandate became over and the "Israeli indepandance conflict" had ended, the west financial corporation became controlled with the help of Jordan and the Gaza strip became controlled with the help of Ejypt. that became 1948. for in basic terms approximately 2 many years this occasion remained, till the 6 day conflict of 1967 replaced the map returned. judging with the help of this, i will in basic terms say that if Israel became on no account ordinary, it extremely is land could in basic terms be devided between the neighbor Arab states, devoid of organising any "Palestinian state" in any know. and to those of you who declare that Palestine existed ahead of the above reported activities: it did, yet as a area, no longer a rustic. it hadn't had it extremely is own government, rules, outstanding inhabitants or perhaps language for roughly 2000 years.

Answer 5

what????

1949 war was over,not a single state that Israel fought against was willing to make peace. All of them said this was a ceace fire and they would come back to destroy Israel.

To give land to people that say stright to your face we will kill you is simply insane.

The problem is your thinking of this in 2007 view of Israel where supposedly If Israel gave up terrory, they would have peace with its neghbors.

That was not the case in 1950. The deal on the table then was we will not attack you right out for now, and if you want peace then it will be as a minority under our rule. The alternative is we will kill you.

Their was not a single offer for peace until 1970's. And that was with Egypt, and guess what Israel took it and their has not been a single armed conflict with Egypt and Israel sense.

Answer 6

Giving up Land for a Peace Plan ,isn"t Peace at all/ The only thing P.L. O. can agree on is ,The Jew is the Problem.
This has been there Game plan for 75 yrs. Is there Life on the west side of Wall,or just Killing?

Answer 7

This partition was imposed and never agreed by the christians and muslims. The jews welcomed it because it gave them a good base on which to consolidate their power and attack their neighbors to get more land.

Answer 8

First responder is correct. Had not the Palestinians waged war to attempt to obliterate Israel, those borders might have made sense. But in law, an offer refused is dead, and there is no merit in attempting to agree now on something that was rejected fifty years ago.

Answer 9

No,we should at least stick to the 1967 borders...

Answer 10

The Arabs have never accepted this drawing of the map.
The Arabs will not accept Jewish independence in ANY form.