how come you believe god and jesus are one and that jesus is the son of god. how can this be if god is not human. sure he created the whole of mandkind but u cant say that his creations are his sons and daughters. for instance, if a doll maker creates a bunch of dolls he cannot refer to them as his children can he?/
see my point
therefore could you clarify why this conjoining of god and his creation as family.
thanx
2007-05-24 09:41:09 · 27 answers · asked by SJ 2 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
THE BLESSED TRINITY:THREE PERSONS IN ONE GOD
The Blessed Trinity is THREE Divine Persons in ONE UNDIVIDED GOD.
"And forthwith coming up out of the water he saw the Heavens opened and the Spirit as a Dove descending and remaining on Him. And there came a Voice from Heaven; 'Thou art My Beloved Son; in Thee I am well pleased'." St. Mark 1:10-11
The above verses reveal GOD the Father and Son, the First and Second Persons of the Blessed Trinity; Jesus coming out of the water and His Father's 'Voice from Heaven'. The Holy Spirit, Who is the Third Person, is also revealed in the form of a 'Dove', descending from Heaven, onto Jesus. Scripture has now identified the Blessed Trinity, meaning Three. Yet Scripture goes beyond this by showing them as Three Persons in One Undivided GOD:
"In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with GOD and the Word was GOD." St. John 1:1 The 'Word was with GOD' (Jesus the Son, was with GOD, His Father), in the 'beginning'; and the 'Word was GOD' .... And the Word was made Flesh and dwelt among us, (and we saw His Glory, the Glory as it were of the Only Begotten of the Father), full of Grace and Truth."
The 'Word' that was with GOD (and Who was GOD), took 'Flesh' from the Virgin Mary and became Man and 'dwelt among us'. Jesus the Son was the 'Word' that took 'Flesh'.
The Fact that Christ is God is not only clear from the words of Christ as we shall prove, yet it is best seen from the fact that Christ Himself claims Divine attributes which belong to God alone, these attributes that Christ claims, no man can claim without committing the sin of blasphemy unless he were truly God!
Christ is Creator - JOHN 1:3 "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made". (Cf. Also JOHN 1:10 , 1 CORINTHIANS 8:6 , EPHESIANS 3:9, COLOSSIANS 1:16, HEBREWS 1:2, HEBREWS 1:10, REVELATION 3:14).
Christ is Eternal & Unreated -
JOHN 5:26 "For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself"
JOHN 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
(Cf. Also Apoc 1:17-18; 22:13, JOHN 4:34, JOHN 6:29, JOHN 6:32-33, JOHN 6:62, JOHN 7:16, JOHN 7:28-29 JOHN 8:16, JOHN 8:23, JOHN 8:29, JOHN 8:42, JOHN 17:5, JOHN 17:24).
Jesus is Adored and Worship as God -
MATTHEW 8:2 And, behold, there came a leper and worshipped him, . . .
(Cf. Also MATTHEW 9:18, MATTHEW 14:33, MATTHEW 15:25, MATTHEW 20:20, MATTHEW 28:9 MATTHEW 28:17, MARK 5:6, LUKE 24:52, JOHN 9:38, JOHN 20:28, MATTHEW 2:2, MATTHEW 2:11, PHILIPPIANS 2:9-11, HEBREWS 1:6, APOC 5:8; 4:10, 7:11, 5:12-14, 4:9, Rom 11:33, Col 2:6-7).
Christ is Omnipotent (All Powerful)
MATTHEW 28:18 . . . All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
(Cf. Also MATTHEW 11:27, JOHN 2:19, JOHN 5:19-21, JOHN 6:40, JOHN 10:17-18, APOC 1:18 ; 3:7, JOHN 3:35, JOHN 13:3, PHILIPPIANS 3:20-21, COLOSSIANS 1:17, HEBREWS 1:3, 1 PETER 3:22, APOC 19:15)
Christ Claimed to be Omniscient (All Knowing)
MATTHEW 9:4 And Jesus knowing their thoughts said, Wherefore think ye evil in your hearts?
(Cf Also MATTHEW 22:18, MATTHEW 26:46, MARK 2:8, MARK 5:30, LUKE 22:10-13, JOHN 5:42, JOHN 6:64, JOHN 13:10-11, MATTHEW 12:25, MATTHEW 13:54, LUKE 2:47, LUKE 6:8, LUKE 9:47, JOHN 2:24-25, JOHN 4:29, JOHN 7:15, JOHN 13:1, JOHN 16:30, JOHN 18:4, JOHN 21:17, COLOSSIANS 2:3, APOC 2:23).
{Additionally, there are many other verses illustrating that Jesus knew the future perfectly (e.g., Mt 12:40, 16:21, 17:9,11-12,22-23, 20:18-19, 21:39, 24:2, 26:2,12,21,31-34,54 Mk 8:31, 9:31, 10:32-34, 14:9,18,27-30,42,49, Lk 9:22,44, 11:30, 12:50, 17:25, 18:31-33, 22:15,21-22,32,34,37, Jn 2:19, 3:14, 10:11,15,17-18, 12:32-34, 13:18-21, 14:19, 15:13, 16:20, 18:11, 21:18-19}
Christ Claimed to be Omnipresent (Present Everywhere)
MATTHEW 18:20 "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them"
(Cf Also MATTHEW 28:20, EPHESIANS 1:23, COLOSSIANS 3:11).
Christ forgives sins in His Own Name
MARK 2:5-10 When Jesus saw their faith, he said unto the sick of the palsy, Son, thy sins be forgiven thee. (6) But there were certain of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts, (7) Why doth this {man} thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only? (8) And immediately when Jesus perceived in his spirit that they so reasoned within themselves, he said unto them, Why reason ye these things in your hearts? (9) Whether is it easier to say to the sick of the palsy, {Thy} sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and take up thy bed, and walk? (10) But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (he saith to the sick of the palsy,) . . .
(Cf Also LUKE 5:20, LUKE 7:47-50, MATTHEW 26:28, LUKE 24:47, JOHN 1:29, ACTS 5:31;10:43; 13:38; 26:18, 1 JOHN 1:7, 1 JOHN 2:1-2, 1 JOHN 2:12, APOC 1:5, Rom 3:25, 4:25, 5:9-11,18, 2 Cor 5:19, Gal 1:4, Eph 1:7, 2:13-18, 5:2, Col 1:14,21-22, 1 Tim 2:5-6, Titus 2:14, Heb 1:3, 2:17, 9:14-15,26, Heb 10:10,13,18-19, 12:24, 13:12,20, 1 Pet 1:18-19, 2:24, 3:18, 1 Jn 3:5, 4:10, 5:9).
Christ claims to be sinless and Perfect
JOHN 8:46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? . . .
(Cf Also JOHN 7:18, APOC 3:7, MARK 1:24, LUKE 1:35 ACTS 3:14, ACTS 13:35, 2 CORINTHIANS 5:21, HEBREWS 4:15, HEBREWS 7:26, HEBREWS 9:14, 1 PETER 1:19, 1 PETER 2:22, 1 JOHN 3:5).
"I and the Father are ONE." St. John 10:30 "...He that seeth Me seeth the Father also." St. John 14:9 "...The Father is in Me and I in the Father." St. John 10:38 Jesus in His own words has revealed to us the Unity of the Blessed Trinity; that He and the Father are One.
The Holy Ghost
The Third Person of the Blessed Trinity is the Holy Spirit, Who is One with the Father and the Son:
"And I will ask the Father and He shall give you another Paraclete, (Holy Spirit)..." St. John 14:16 "...The Holy Spirit, Whom the Father will send in My Name; He will teach you all things..." St. John 14:26
Note here, the Three Divine Persons working together in unity as ONE; Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
"But when He, the Spirit of Truth, is come, He will teach you all Truth. For He shall not speak of Himself; but what things soever He shall hear, He shall speak; and the things that are to come, He shall shew you." St. John 16:13
In this verse, it will be neither the Father nor the Son who will teach them all 'Truth', but it will be the Holy Spirit and 'He will teach them all things'. The words 'He' and 'Himself' signify a personality of His own; the Third Divine Person in One Undivided GOD. This is the Blessed Trinity, revealed by Scripture, yet denied by many who fall within the following verses.
"The Spirit of Truth, Whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth Him not, nor knoweth Him; but you shall knoweth Him, because He shall abide with you and shall be in you." St. John 14:7
Notice how Jesus continually referred to the Holy Spirit in the words 'He' and 'Him', indicating that the Holy Spirit is distinct in Person, yet equal to the Father and the Son, as He is ONE with the Father and the Son.
It is clear from the following verse that the Holy Spirit is GOD. When you sin against the Holy Spirit, you sin against GOD.
"Why hath satan tempted thy heart, that thou shoudst lie to the Holy Ghost...Thou hast not lied to men, but to GOD." The Acts 5:3-4
"And there are Three Who give testimony in Heaven, the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit. And these Three are ONE." 1 St. John 5:7 1 St. John 5:7 reveals Jesus as being the 'Word', as the Son, Who was 'with GOD' in the 'beginning' as mentioned (St. John 1:1), and the 'Word' taking 'Flesh' and becoming 'Man' (St. John 1:14).
These verses have proven that the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, though Thy are Three, yet They are ONE. This UNDIVIDED ONENESS (1 St. John 5:7) is the Blessed Trinity, ONE GOD.
Holy Scripture reveals the Blessed Trinity as GOD even before creation itself.
"In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with GOD and the Word was GOD." St. John 1:1
"In the beginning GOD created Heaven and earth." Genesis 17:5
Notice the 'Word' (Jesus), is GOD in the 'beginning' (St. John 1:1), Who 'created Heaven and earth' in the beginning (Genesis 1:1). Without Jesus, Who is GOD, nothing was made.
"All things were made by Him; and without Him was made nothing that was made." St. John 1:3
"And now glorify thou Me, O' Father, with Thyself, with the glory which I had, before the world was, with Thee." St. John 17:5
"Behold a Virgin shall be with Child and bring forth a Son and they shall call His Name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, GOD with us." St. Matthew 1:23
The Book of Genesis foreshadows the Trinity as Three distinct Divine Persons. After the Triune GOD had created Heaven and earth, They created man.
"And He said: 'Let Us make man in our Image and Likeness'...'And GOD created man to His Own Image; to the Image of GOD, He created him'..." Genesis 1:26
When GOD made man, He made him in His 'Image', the Image of GOD. When GOD took 'Flesh' and became 'Man', He was still GOD and still in 'His Own Image', hence the Second Person of the Blessed Trinity.
"And He said: 'Behold Adam is become one of Us, knowing good and evil'..." Genesis 3:22
"Let Us go down and there confound their tongues." Genesis 11:7
Remember that the 'Word' (Jesus) was 'with' GOD and 'was' GOD in the 'beginning' (St. John 1:1), and in each verse of the Book of Genesis, GOD revealed His Divinity referring to Himself 'let us' rather than 'I will'.
The Persons of the Blessed Trinity are working together in unity, in ONE UNDIVIDED GODHEAD.
Before Jesus Ascended into Heaven, He ordered His Apostles and Disciples to go out and make disciples of all nations and to Baptize all those who embrace the Faith in the Name of the Blessed Trinity.
"Going therefore, teach ye all nations; Baptizing in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you; and behold, I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world." St. Matthew 28:19-20
Jesus, knowing that He is to Ascend into Heaven, promised to send the Holy Spirit; and He will 'teach them all things' (St. John 14:16,26), (St. John 16:13). Jesus in His own words: "I Am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world", by His Ascension, Jesus has revealed Himself to be ONE with the Holy Spirit, to teach us 'all things' and to be with us always, to the end of time.
The Blessed Trinity are Three Divine Persons with Three distinct roles:
GOD the Father: The Creator (Gen 1:1, Jn 1:1) GOD the Son: The Redeemer (Jn 1:1,14) GOD the Holy Spirit: The Sanctifier (Jn 14:16-17,26, Mt 28:20)
2007-05-24 09:46:44 · answer #1 · answered by C R 2 · 1⤊ 2⤋
You're question is one that is constantly asked, even by Christians. How can this be? Three in one? What? It is believed that the Trinity is three in one; the Father, (God), The Son (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit. Now, ven though I say Jesus and God, Jesus is God. Lol, not very clarifying. But that's the point. It isn't supposed to be. God has made it so that man is not supposed to fully understand all that he has revealed. Although we, as humans, are on such a high intellectual level, if we knew everything, we would be on the same level as God, which is not possible. We are not meant to understand it. That is what faith, the base of our religion, is. Believing in what we can't see or understand.
Believe.
2007-05-24 09:54:15 · answer #2 · answered by Will 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Hello first lets get to this Jesus and God thing, in Hebrews13:8 we read never has there been a time when Jesus was not and in Heb.1:5-9 we read The Father Himself address Jesus as God, in John 8:58 He is said to be The I AM of Exodus 3, Moses and the burning bush, in John 1 we understand Jesus was the active agent in creation, in fact He was the person in Gen. 3:15 who told of His coming to rescue mankind from satan and sin, when Jesus came to be born of a woman He gave up His divine body for a human one, and when He returned to The Father [which while He was on earth was His Father because although God He was fully Human also] and in Isa.9:6 we understand that these verses describe Jesus but do you notice the names, Mighty God, Father, those names are used within members of The Godhead and by the way when Jesus returned to the Father He kept His human body "WITH" the marks He got just for you, some think we have two choices between evil and God but that is simply not the case we because we are children of Adam and Eve have a sinfull nature and "ONLY IN JESUS" do you have any choice at all to be a different person, and as far as family you become a Child of The Living God, a child of The King, Jesus, want to find out more free bible lessons www.amazingfacts.org talk to me also wgr88@yahoo.com God bless
2007-05-24 09:54:14 · answer #3 · answered by wgr88 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
If you would read the bible then it would answer a lot of your questions. God created us, we are all God's creation. The world was full of sin, so God sent his only son Jesus Christ to die for our sins.And BTW Jesus was human, his mother was the Virgin, Mary. To become one of God's children you must accept Jesus and become saved. And I cannot believe you compared God creating human beings, and the entire earth and EVERYTHING on it, to a doll maker.
To make things more clear.. read the BIBLE. Also when you get saved, things will become more clear, you will understand it more.
2007-05-24 10:04:21 · answer #4 · answered by iffyp06 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
We believe that the ONE true God is a TRINITY, THree seperate beings united in one nature. (God the father, God the son, and God the Holy Spirit). GOd the father NEVER created God the son (Jesus). Jesus is the eternal begotten son of God the father and God the father has eternally "generated" God the son. The Holy Spirit has eternally proceeded from both the father and son. For example rays proceed from the sun. Or words proceed from the mind.
when Jesus came to earth, he was true man and true God.
2007-05-24 09:45:11 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
hi, before i was saved i only believed in God then i learned about Jesus and how he came about and that is was through immaculate conception/through the holy spirit that he was born for us.Jesus is our go between he died for us and he takes all our prayers to God his father this is where we get t God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. yes we are all Gods children the bible tells you this. your ? on the doll maker does not meet the same level what did happen there is that God gave the doll maker the gift of creativity, and no he can't refer to them as his children because they don't breath or they are not living.
2007-05-24 10:21:42 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
How come I believe God and Jesus are one, and that Jesus is the Son of God? because God is God.... Jesus and the Holy Spirit are part of God, yet seperate as well...
God did create all, and we are His, but some people choose to not be a Child of God.... by not believing or by rejecting Who God is.
I have more 'family' in Jesus Christ than I do blood relatives..... but your name is not in the Book of Life, which lists God's children, if you do not choose to follow Him
2007-05-24 09:51:14 · answer #7 · answered by livinintheword † 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
God and Jesus are One, Because they are the same Spirit. Jesus is God clothed in HUMAN flesh. Mary conceived Jesus of the Holy Spirit. It was a miraculous conception. (the only one that has or will ever be by the way)
In order for God (who is perfect and HOLY) to accept man (who is full of sin from being born into this sinfilled world), He sent Jesus His only BEGOTTEN SON ( we are His children, but we are not begotten like Jesus, christians are adopted and grafted into the family of God-God invented adoption first by the way) So God sent Jesus into this world through Mary to live as a human man.
Jesus said "I come that they (mankind) might have life) MIGHT meaning you must accept this gift of salvation, it isn't forced upon you. Nor is it atuomatic as some may think.
Jesus lived a life such as we do only He NEVER sinned. He lived a perfect life, so He could be the PERFET sacrifice for the sins of the world. God in the old Testament said "bring me a sheep without spot or blemish" Jesus was the New Testament sheep (without spot or blemish) When He was crucified God knew that he would always forgive man of their sins if they humbly asked Him to if they come in the name of His crucified and resurrected son Jesus. God wouldn't allow His son to die for us just to turn around and not forgive us.
2007-05-24 10:00:19 · answer #8 · answered by Honee-Bee93 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
" So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. Gen. 1:27
Jesus is God in human flesh. "The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth." John 1:14 . People who accept Christ as their savior are adopted into God's kingdom. We are made in his image which doesn't necessarily means we look like him in a physical sense. I hope that helps some, good question.
2007-05-24 09:54:11 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
God created us all. We used to sacrifice animals before Jesus to the Lord. God came to earth in flesh to walk among us and show us the way, he was sacrificed to save us, so we can be reconciled with God...God lives outside of time, He lives in eternity, one day to us is 1000 yrs to him and vice versa. God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are all one. The easiest way to explain that is water, ice and vapor. They are all the same but different forms.
2007-05-24 09:59:57 · answer #10 · answered by maylissa 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
God has created us in his image. He created the world. And when Adam and Eve sinned they discovered the difference of good and evil. Therefore God sent Jesus to save us. You would have to read the whole bible in order to make sense out of it. But it's the truth. If you read the revelations it tells us about the mark of the beast, a mark on your right hand and without it you wouldn't be able to buy or sell or basically live a "normal" life... well, the verichip is already on the market and around 2017 we're all ought to have it... that's god's final test, whether we have the faith in him or if we put our finances above God. ... there's much more to it and my advise is to read the bible as a book for yourself... every question you have is answered...
2007-05-24 09:48:33 · answer #11 · answered by birdee20 2 · 2⤊ 0⤋