So... God is talking to you, huh?
*Backs away* Never mind.
2007-05-24 09:42:17
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answer #1
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answered by Anonymous
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Read Romans 3:7 in context. Paul is not saying he is lying, but he's repeating an argument that he's heard. There are some who are saying that we should do unrighteousness to confirm God's righteousness (verse 5), lie, to bring greater glory to God by showing how truthful He is (verse 7), and do evil, so that some good may come about (verse 8). Paul's response to all of these is emphatically "NO!" (see verse 6, as well as verse 9, where he says that some have falsely accused him of making such statements).
What point you're trying to make with 2:16 or 7:12, I have no idea.
"How can Christianity make the words of PAUL equal to the words of GOD ?"
Christianity can't. Only God can (and did).
2007-05-24 17:22:13
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answered by Deof Movestofca 7
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I can't believe I'm actually defending the Bible, but dude...seriously you're taking this stuff way out of context. Romans 3:7 if you read the surrounding verses, you will see that Paul is merely using rhetoric to make a logical statement.
Rom 2:16 - I agree. Paul wrote that gospel no doubt claiming inspiration from God.
Rom 7:12 - Paul is referring to the law left by Jesus. He indicated on more than one occasion that the Mosaic Law ended with Jesus.
2007-05-24 16:52:26
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answered by Anonymous
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Paul was supposedly born and raised in the city of Tarsus, a region in SE Asia-Minor (now called Turkey) where Mithras was well known. Biblical scholars are now saying that Paul, the alleged author of 13 out of the 27 (maybe more) books of the New Testament, may have been influenced in his writings by this strong religion of Mithraism. We can see a profound kinship between Mithraism and Christianity.
In-as-much as Mithraism was so popular in Rome, it is no wonder why the pagan Emperor Constantine, who believed in the sun god, Mithras, designated a certain day of the week to him, Sunday, which means, “the day of the sun.”
The original "Christian" faith became a mix of pagan, Mithramic, Jeudeo/Christian teaching. This lead to the confusing mix of theology that we have today within the "Christian" community. This apostacy from the original simple and plain teachings of Christ was accelerated by the persecutions and killings of any who tried to support the "old" ways. Maybe this solves the mystery of the “ungodly” marriage between Mithraism and the cult of Jesus. As it turns out, it was all for political convenience! But, Christians think they are better than that today. In short: The "Christianity" they have today has almost no relationship, in doctrine or in way of life, to the "the original teachings of Jesus."
In my mind, there are two Jesus' teachings. Jesus the Jew and Jesus the Gentile, which by the way is really Paul's Jesus. And guess which one Christians follow? The ex-pagan Constantine liked Paul's Jesus over Jesus the Jew. Jesus and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun through the heavens.
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"I firmly believe Paul took the teachings of an Essene rabbi called Jesus and rearranged them to fit the Mithras mythology. There were many wannabe messiahs around the time of Jesus; the man who could establish a religion based on a "real" messiah would be a very powerful and respected man, which Paul apparently wanted to be.
The fact that Paul never met Jesus, and that Jesus never foretold Paul's appearance (unless it was included in his warning about deceivers that would fool "the very elect"), should be proof that Paul had no authority in real Christianity. "
2007-05-24 16:44:12
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answered by Anonymous
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all scripture is God breathed if you do not believe the bible is the inherent word of God then go write your own make the rules you want in your own religion.
It is true that God can use sin and the wickedness and wrath of man to bring GLORY to His Name (Psalm 76:10). Even a wicked, hard-hearted Pharaoh can bring glory to God (see Romans 9:17,18,21,22,23). Pharaoh, following the same perverted logic, could say, "Lord, what right do You have to judge me? I’ve done You a service! I have helped bring glory to Your Name! I have let everyone see how longsuffering you were to me and how Your power was made known. If I had not resisted You then You would not have been able to perform all of those mighty signs and wonders upon the land of Egypt!" Man’s sin can bring glory to God but this certainly does not exempt man from judgment.
2007-05-24 16:42:32
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answered by lizardman 4
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There is an excellent but out of print book called "the mythmaker" that addresses the the fact that christianity is more of an invention of paul than jesus. Jesus would not have any idea what a christian was. It is very unlikely paul was ever a rabbi
2007-05-24 16:48:10
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answered by Anonymous
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Wow, talk about taking things totally out of context! You can't just use 1-2 verses to try to state your case without using the surrounding verses. Paul may have been a Jew but he was also a disciple of Christ and was devoted to spreading the Gospel.
I think you need to reread the Bible.
2007-05-24 16:49:20
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answered by JW 4
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Christians believe whatever they wish, hon.... all are cafeteria style christians, and take out of the bible whatever is convenient at the time..... 50 years ago it was sin, sin, sin, and you will burn forever. (Now, george talks to god......) Sin isn't much in churches today. The bible has been revised, rewritten so many times it is about irrelevant today.... even the word for a young woman in Aramaic was changed to the Greek word for virgin, so that's how we got the virgin mary part..... And the gospels of st. Thomas and Judas were dropped, as those reflected poorly on the early life of Jesus.... so, hon, you can about find anything you want in the bible.... it is just a set of stories and folklore of the tribe of Israel, a starving bunch of stone age shepherds in the Middle East....
2007-05-24 16:50:02
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answered by April 6
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It is the word of Paul, not the word of the Nazarene, that today's Christians follow; and Paul (Saul) was a little prick.
2007-05-24 16:55:12
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answered by Anonymous
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yes of all the apostles, disciples, learned sage friends of Jesus, Paul was the one that has never actually lived and communed with Jesus...
The later Christians took his word as law because his caustic rebuking methods are wayyyyy better than Jesus' Gentle and Loving methods for the control of the masses via Fear, Threats and Spiritual Blackmail... its never been about Faith, its about Who has Power and controls the Politics at that time
2007-05-24 16:45:14
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answered by Tenzin 3
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Paul's writings are the word of God
2007-05-24 16:42:56
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answered by ✞ Ephesians 2:8 ✞ 7
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