Why is the Surge of American troops not helping in Iraq?

Question

Morgue Data Show Increase In Sectarian Killings in Iraq
ByWashington Post Foreign Service
Thursday, May 24, 2007


BAGHDAD, May 23 -- More than three months into a U.S.-Iraqi security offensive designed to curtail sectarian violence in Baghdad and other parts of Iraq, Health Ministry statistics show that such killings are rising again. This shows the United States may lose the Iraq war.

From the beginning of May until Tuesday, 321 unidentified corpses, many dumped and showing signs of torture and execution, have been found across the Iraqi capital, according to morgue data provided by a Health Ministry official who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to release the information. The data showed that the same number of bodies were found in all of January, the month before the launch of the Baghdad security plan. However, the war supporters still say all is well and going according to plans.

Answer 1

It is a little too early for your statistics to have any reliability. Let's just keep our cool and WAIT for enough time to get some valid results. The trouble with you "cut & runners" is that you tend to manufacture reasons to cut & run and you just can not understand why EVERYONE else is so stupid that they can't see things that way. This official that spoke on condition of anonymity certainly gets around. Strange that only you liberals ever talk to him. Maybe he is NOT authorized to release information that is lies. I have not heard any war supporters saying " things are going well and according to plan". Which ones did you hear say that?

Answer 2

You still have not learned how to copy and paste the site where you got this info into the source box? It is not hard. highlight the text with the left mouse button. right click on the text and choose copy. go to the source box. right click and choose paste.

stop making up stuff.

actual article....

Morgue Data Show Increase In Sectarian Killings in Iraq

By Sudarsan Raghavan
Washington Post Foreign Service
Thursday, May 24, 2007; Page A01

BAGHDAD, May 23 -- More than three months into a U.S.-Iraqi security offensive designed to curtail sectarian violence in Baghdad and other parts of Iraq, Health Ministry statistics show that such killings are rising again.

From the beginning of May until Tuesday, 321 unidentified corpses, many dumped and showing signs of torture and execution, have been found across the Iraqi capital, according to morgue data provided by a Health Ministry official who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to release the information. The data showed that the same number of bodies were found in all of January, the month before the launch of the Baghdad security plan.

Answer 3

The conservatives heard this from Walter Cronkite, the most trusted man of his time, about the Tet Offensive in Vietnam. He basically said that the North Vietnamese had crossed over into South Vietnam and all was lost. That's when the American public switched from pro war to anti-war. It wasn't helping that the KGB was giving bums, college kids and hippies free cash and drugs to launch these peace marches. There was a huge problem.

The Tet Offensive was a complete failure on the part of the North Vietnamese. Another famous photo was of South Vietnamese rushing an embassy helicopter and a guy punching one of the Vietnamese guys. The liberal newspapers pointed at this was the U.S. was fleeing for their lives and in full retreat. The main trouble with this was it happened around three years before the fall of South Vietnam, all those people were evacuated and the guy being punched was a South Vietnamese soldier with a pistol in his belt.

Time and other news agencies even hired the North Vietnamese spy Pham Xuan An to report on the U.S. progress in South Vietnam. That would be like letting Tokyo Rose write for Stars and Stripes.

To make things more interesting, the AP reporters in Iraq were quoting a police Capt. Jamil Hussein even though he never existed nor were any of the information creditable and some were just plain lies. Those reporters were then promoted to be editors of the fighting in Iraq. Most newspapers depend on using the AP for world events because it costs to much to send their own reporters. So now there are two very anti war people that have lied in control of most of the news information coming out of Iraq and into the U.S.

Now if the liberal or conservative papers were to flat out lie to get their point accross, then why should conservatives believe the liberal press and why should liberals believe the conservative press? So what is the conservatives reporting about? They are reporting on weapons caches being found, WMD being found (straight from live Congress coverage from CSPAN), bomb factories being destroyed, terrorists being stopped and Iraqis being trained to care for themselves. Those stories don't appear in the mainstream media.

As with the disagreement of WMD being found there is also a disagreement of violence. The offical talley is a 50% drop from May of last year.

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/04/26/764/

Answer 4

OF course the insurgents have stepped up the violence, they don't want the USA training the Iraq military and police to support the new democratic government that the Iraqi people voted for and won. They want Iraq to stay a bunch of hicks with lots of oil and chaos so that when the US moves out, they can move right in.

Answer 5

The surge in US troops has corresponded with a statistical decrease in violence over the final 6 months. I agree, the human sacrifices we've made are marvelous, and its unlucky that we've allowed them to make the ideal sacrifice jointly as we live luckily on. I see no ingredient in the "why did we flow to conflict with Iraq" argument now that weve been there considering the fact that 2003. We made the mess, we've a accountability to do what we can to repair it. if your argument is that we withdraw all troops and allow the area to fall into chaos then your answer is short sighted. there is not any longer something extra risky than a unexpected absence of ability, as we observed on the 1st few days of the invasion as quickly as we stood idly via as a results of fact the rustic burned from interior. We pull out thoroughly now and we are going to in uncomplicated terms could desire to flow decrease back in with a extra important stress. Im no longer arguing that it is suited or honest, that purely seems to be the region we come across ourselves in. carry your partisan accusations please, individually i come across the political spectrum to be an oversimplification of political philosophy used via people who can't see previous the confines of their psychological obstacles.

Answer 6

A surge of 500,000 troops didn't help in Vietnam, what makes anyone think that a piton surge of 20,000 in Iraq will accomplish anything.

The question in Iraq should not be "how do we win the war", the question should be "how do we make peace".

Answer 7

What about your statement proves that the surge is not helping? Maybe all this violence has increased just to impress those in the US who are now waffling on the war? I mean commie jane proved during Vietnam that casualties will impress liberals. How many of these deaths are the responsibility of liberals?

Answer 8

There aren't enough troops, and the don't have all the firepower they need.
After the Korean War we started fighting wars to not loose.
We used to fight wars to win. WWII the whole country got together and the Germans and the Japanese were not treated with kid gloves. We fought to win, and did.

Answer 9

Drinking the koolaid from the MSM,eh? Asking questions like that shows you hate the troops and rooting for America to lose. So quit being a cheese eating French.

Answer 10

Your stats are fine but this is very simple, stats are not needed. Why, Too little Too late, thats why.