why report this... asking why parents thing different drugs are the same.?

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why do many parents think drugs are all the same... except of course alcohol which they think is not a drug? Most drugs are very different as are the cultures that go with them, how they are used. How dangerous and additive it is for the user and those around. If there are benefits to the individual IF USED RIGHT or a society Example of postives would be the hippy movement leading to the civil rights and peace movements and all the creativity etc. Examples of bad culture could be gangster culture and crack. Whats likely to be tried by everyone ie alcohol and dope. What most grow out of. Whats a worry, whats not. What parents can do to help, what needs pro help and the fact alchol would be fairly high up in the bad effects categories. Why simply use the term drugs? Also it shows ignorance to kids so not taken seriously Like the boy who cried wolf show says has cookies are same as heroin. Kids sees thats not so thinks adult lier when says crack is bad as said dope = smack addict

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Its like parents say drugs are all evil, one joint and you will be a mainlining heroin by the end of the week. And all ravers are evil and wicked. So you stypical kid watches mates... sees them try dope, sees they dont trun into instant smack addicts Goes to pub... sees fights and vomitting etc. Goes to raves... Everyones nice and huggy and colourful. Lots of Greenpeace type stalls. Kids gonner think parent is a clueless lier. Now if parent instead says look ecstasy does have good effects IF thats what's in the pill ie making people hug and cuddle and dance all night. But it also can make you over heat, be suseptable to water poisioning. Its long term effects are unknonw. If you take it make sure you stay cool, and dont drink lots of water butt have lots of hydrate packs. you will be safer but really its supposed to be used by psyciatrists. or dope smoking has all the same effects as smoking cigarettes as you are smoking tabbacco with dope

sitting chatting crap and falling asleep... whats the point? Better to snog several people and dance all night. then you get taken seriously... Practically all parents I have come accross fit in the dumbass category... Only a few ex hippiy types were sensible and informed


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Its saying... why are people not honest... say the good and bad pints of each drug treated differently along with different culutres use.


Then adding it up so to say yes this does have this positive effect... but aint worth it due to those 10 bad effects.


And doing this is much better.

If honest you get taken more seriously and dont look a moron.


Which means your kid may live as took you seriously

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You get so many parents just saying drugs...


the question was why?

why not ecstacy in a rave culture environment as opposed to crack with its culture of gangs and violence which is highly additcive

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What you are doing is illegal, and your parents have every right to be upset.


Actually no...


Im saying simply be honest and base what you say on facts... All of them.


If you are dishonest as say something is compeltely bad...

ie ecstasy.


then a kid goes to a pub... counts the violent alcohol realted incidents.


then goes to a rave notes no violent incidents... various environmental and Green peace and help trible people stalls.


Everyone is being nice to each other.


then you say ecstacy and raves are evil.


Kids going to add up the evidence and think you are a lier.


Now if you say yes ecstasy is useful to pysciatrists and can make you freindly

Cant you do that without the drug? and leave it to be used by professional doctors.

Yes something that makes hardened gangs and football thugs hug and make freinds is good.


but has side effects too.

That can kill you or mess up head

in the future... So wont be able to be happy as all serotinin used up.


then kids can assess that. see its true and you have a good argument

when you say crack unlike E is totally evil as very addictive. those dealing it go around mugging and murdering people and look at all the crack addict hookers...


You can take you kid down to a red light distraict and show you are telling the truth comparing with a rave.


Likewise its a fact heroin is GOOD if you are terminally ill or dying in an accident as its a pain killer... and your dead soon anyway.


But if not dying in a mashed up car its bad for you as so addictive.


Or that yes there is stuff in dope that helps people with MS...

So you dont need to smoke it... chemists can extract the good stuff and make it into pills.



these are inteligent, knowledge based arguments instead of hysteria.

thats what im suggesting

Im not up to no good.


I dont want to see nice hippy kids who study hard and creative and care.


have their heads battoned in by riot police storming into their party in the woods, dragging them into jail and having them raped every other day in a jail with a criminal record for a few years.


as they took a few pills that made them as nice as the teletubbies.


As parents think having their kid raped, battered in jail, and missing out on uni, friends, and education to leave with no chance aof a job or career protecting them

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Actually alcohol and cigarattes are the biggest killers... and that includes instant alcholpoisioning and chocking on vomit as well as alchol realted violence and rink driving.


next down is solvents ie glue.

Some drugs are pshyically addictive like heroin and possibly some of the new hybri stains of dopw which are nothing like the 60s 70s stuff...

See again education.

Whilst hallucigences tend not to be but bad idea if you have any family history of mental illness or truma. But really are for more mature peopel who can handle it.


More like shaman types.

Have seen ssome freinds better off but they did not do masses whilst others who generally never did anything at all suffered socially.

So I have to go on what I have seen and leanrt.


And no I dont do stuff.

I hardly drink.


but wise enough to note hippy type cultures are generally positive.

That most of your professional were students once in uni emm

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Socail girl; thats actually a good answer as it is actually true

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NAD Im aged 34.

been around

Also in uni by dissertation was a major drug education video.

I was intouch with the best drug agencies in the UK, intertiewed addicts and was at the corinors court for Leah Betts the famous girl who died after taking Ecstasy whos corinor said without the water she would have been fine and interviewed her paernets who were very pro bs free education.


In case you are wondering... Most parents I have come accorss are cluess preaching the all drugs are evil line but any interogation of them on details shows they actully know naff all.

Now many kids also insist dope is harmless and they are just as wrong firstly as the typical joint is full of harmful tabbacco.


And the addicts and All described alcohol that it should be in case B or A due to the harmful effects.


I also analyse things like festival and rave culture which for the most part is pretty harmless.

99.9% of people come accross

have tried dope.


never said anythign was harmless.


But are skateboarding, rock climbing, cycling harmless and risk free?

I have studied up on medicianal and therapy use of these drugs and how they ended up in club scenes and most dont go onto heroin.


Many only try alcohol and dope.

Others just psycedleics



And not red bull the drink is in the same category and coccaine

So no Im not a stupid dope is harmelss kid.

Or a druggie

But its clear that present laws aint helping and jiling a kid in with gang members aint gonner help anyone...


infact likly to take a nice caring kid with a future and turn them into a cold blooded killed with all the wamrth removed

And jail is likly to get you hooked on heroin

Answer 1

I didn't get Ur question??????????

Answer 2

Bit of a garbled question....In one sentence you seem to be saying that some drugs are good, which they are not, and in another saying drugs are bad, which they are.
It is a huge generalisation to say that parents think all drugs are the same...I don't.
As a parent it is often impossible to find out what kids are doing..they rarely if ever come to a parent for advice, you just have to hope you brought them up with a responsible attitude.
The problem with 'soft' drugs is that they often lead to harder more destructive drugs...just look at smoking...usually someone starts on one ciggie a week and before you know it you are on 80 a day.....that's how drugs work, your body becomes dependant on them and needs more to have the same initial effect.
I think you were trying to say something interesting, but it turned into a bit of a garbled rant...but I think you are saying dont take drugs....which is a good thing...but don't generalise it spoils what could have been an interesting argument.

Answer 3

I think i get your point some "illegal" drugs ie. heroin CAN actually be very good if used in the right way.....
I know of an ex-police officer who was given the stuff after a major op (going back a few years now) & he was terrifed he would hallucinate or trip on it but the doctor told him that if he was in that much pain it would act as a pain killer only!
BUT most of the drugs you buy on the street are not the 'pure' form, they are not legal & they are not safe! Most of the time it is the stuff they are mixed with that is the most dangerous!

IF certain drugs were legalized & therfore were safer to take then alot more of 'us parents' would have no more of an issue with them than we do with smoking or drinking, which when my kids are old enough i will moan at them about that if they start!
I personally dont do drugs, gave up smoking 11yrs ago & only drink occasionally & no I'm not a boring goody-too-shoos I just dont like smoking or drugs have tried some in the past but didnt think much too it!!!! Alcohol is ok but cant deal with the hangover with kids shouting from 7 the next day!lol

Answer 4

Remain calm. Be very straight forward with him. He's a bit young, but sex at 14 isn't all that uncommon. Make sure he is practicing safe sex. Kids don't want to hear that stuff, so you should present it that way. "I know you don't want to hear this, and might even be sick of hearing it, but I can't stress this enough..." It may be only oral sex. For some young people they don't equate oral sex with 'regular' sex. If he's been a good student and so on I wouldn't be too afraid. And don't restrict his freedom. Just make very sure he knows what he is doing. That might seem like a lot of responsibility for a young man, but then again he's engaging in sex, so it may not be too much for him to handle. As long as you have no problems with the girl or her parents there's no reason to break up the friendship. That will more likely than not happen on its own anyway. Forbidding him from seeing her and lecturing "don't do it" about sex will just make it forbidden fruit, and all the more attractive. Remember when you were 14? Then, tell him he should not make videos of it. If the wrong person, a teacher, grandma, her parents, whomever sees it...or a schoolmate sees it, it ends up on the Internet...I think you get the idea. It's tough today, there are so many rules over young people, curfew, restrictions against working, and such. The cost of living is the highest in history. Hard for young people to go out and do anything. A boy and girl together with nothing else to do? Guess what. As for talking to her parents, I don't know. "What's going on in there?" - "nothing" Yeah, they're being supervised. And if something serious happened, someone got hurt for example, they'd be okay. I bet you don't monitor your son's every move but still consider him supervised. Good luck.

Answer 5

There should really be a limit on how many times you can go back and fill up the 1000 characters on the extra information part of the question.

Okay, first, it must be mentioned that your claim that an example of a "positive" of drug use is the hippies who brought about the civil rights and peace movements is absolutely ridiculous. The people who brought about those changes were intelligent, lucid individuals who were respectable and could be taken seriously. Millions of stoned college kids had much less to do with civil rights than Martin Luther King, Jr., Rosa Parks, or even Malcom X (even though he did believe in using violence to bring about change). What the hippies DID bring to society was the idea of "free love", which was revealed as the idiot idea it was when the AIDS epidemic began in the 1980's. Guess what, intoxicated, unprotected sex with anyone and everyone turned out not to be such a great idea after all.

Slowly working through your unbelievably long, rambling question.....

Alcohol is a drug. I would have a problem with my kids (when they're older) or teenagers I know using alcohol as much as I would if they were using one of the "medium" drugs, like crystal meth or ecstacy.

Any drug that causes intoxication can be dangerous for the person using and the people they're around, because it causes serious lapses in judgement and it can lead to addiction. Why should parents be okay with a teenager trying drugs because they MIGHT not get addicted, when they defiantely won't get addicted to anything if they don't start?

I agree, the majority of people who use drugs like marijuana don't become heroin addicts, but look at it this way. Maybe twenty out of one hundred people who use marijuana will go on to use and abuse other heavier drugs, but virtually 100% of heavier drug users started out using lighter drugs like marijuana. Logically (you remember logic, right?), it's safe to say that had they not used marijuana back in the day, they would not be heroin addicts today. Why take that chance? It would be completely irresponsible for parents to allow "lighter" drugs on the theory that their child might not become addicted.

Why don't you go sleep off whatever is in your system (unless you were just stoned during class and never learned that "Kids sees thats not so thinks adult lier when says crack is bad as said dope = smack addict" is not actually a sentence that actually is understandable).

Answer 6

I'm 18 almost 19 and I have never done illict drugs (marijuana, heroin, coke, estacy etc..).

I will admit I have drank a little but have never been drunk. I smoked a few ciggarets but don't smoke at all anymore. I think drugs are drugs pure and simple. Doesn't matter if it's marjana or heroin.

I had friends (most of them) in HS that did marijuana and some did coke and a few did estacy.

I never did drugs, not because of what my mom (who, even though she won't admit it was a hippy and graduated HS in 1969) or the media said but because I saw what it did to people when I was 14 and my friend was strung out.

True some of them have quit but most haven't and I have doubts rather some will ever "grow out of it".

But I truly think that because I made that decision, it shaped the rest of my life for the better. I am better off then anyone else I hung out with in HS. I'm married, didn't get knocked up in HS, own my car, have a job, go to college, have a nice apartment etc... and no one else I know from HS can say all those things and because I chose to stay in school (and not drop out and/or get my GED like so many of my friends did) I have a full ride to law school.

Simple fact: Most (I'm going to say about 95%) teenagers don't listen to their parents 80% of the time (I'm being generous). I know I didn't listen to my mom 100% of the time, I didn't learn to stay clean because of her or the media, I stayed clean because I KNEW what would happen from SEEING it myself. If those other kids don't know or can't see then I feel for them. You can't help anyone inless they want to help themselves.

Answer 7

One of the biggest fears parents have these days is that their teen gets into Drugs. Doesn't matter how positive that sounds to you now, its not.Your mom and Dad knows better and you will one day too.Drug can ruin your life.First kids say o i will never smoke one day.then they start to smoke then they say i will never drink, and they start to drink that leads to pot(marijuana) and then that leads to acid and Ecstasy and that then most often lead to cocaine and then to heroin etc.the ones that you really can't say no to anymore.The ones that you get addicted so badly that you would sell your own body to get money for drugs and then your future is ruined and you are dirty.And yes lots of kids use drugs and stop.Some die of OD. Some become lawyers.Some become the President(Bush).But then there are those many many lost kids, that's parents doesn't even know if they are alive...You think drugs is positive?Think again.Any drug kills your brain cells.and makes you stupid.really you think that is not true.drugs can also lead to depression and suicide etc.LISTEN TO YOUR PARENTS!

Answer 8

Rationalization is not a good sign my dear. The hippy movement was not a good thing it is an embarrassment. You really need to study the long-term effects of drugs especially on the adolescent brain that is not completely developed. You need to go play ball or something

Answer 9

I think it is because people only see what they want to see when it comes to drugs. Alcohol and some other items should be on that list of no-nos as well but people don't think about it. They are too worried their kids is doing crack that they just don't understand when their kid dies from huffing, or alcohol poisioning! Everyone is more worried about some drugs because they are the most commonly heard of, rather than worrying about what drugs (or alcohol) are the strongest and and most dangerous. I hope this goes with your question, you kinda lost me after a minute.

Answer 10

Stop trying to minimize your problem. What you are doing is illegal, and your parents have every right to be upset. I really don't think this "splitting hairs" over what you call a substance is going to get you anywhere. Your parents aren't nearly as dumb as you think, and they know you're up to no good.

Answer 11

just rember that all drugs are addictive and can kill you if you are not careful more ppl die threw taking gear than being addicted to alchol some ppl use drugs as an escape to there problems