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Now Krsna has many kinds of avatars like shatkavesh Avatar, Guna Avatar, Aves Avatar etc.
Now, generally, we understand that Krishna is triyuga Avatari, but also He descends as Caitanya Mahaprabhu in some Kali yugas. We also know that He also has othe Avatars like Parasuram.
My question is, is there a possibility for Bhagavan to descend as, perhaps, a Shaktyavesh Avatar or something else in Kali Yuga?
Are all the Avatars, described in the Vedas or are some not?
sometimes Jesus Christ is described as a saktavesa avatara (--srila Sridhara Maharaja)

2007-05-23 19:34:12 · 9 answers · asked by Sukesu 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Saktyavesa-avataras are of two types- Direct and Indirect.
Direct is when the Lord Himself comes and Indirect when a jive is empowered. Jesus Christ being a jiva is indirect and not direct. Prabhupada also told Jesus Christ and also Hazrat Muhammad to be Saktyavesa-avatara.

Some references from Prabhupada.

During Morning Walk on April 6, 1974, Bombay:
Yes, there are different types of saktyavesa avatara. So when an ordinary jiva is specially empowered, he is called saktya avesa avatara, satktyavesa avatara, vibhuti. Yad yad vibhutimat sattvam. He is living entity, but especially empowered. Just like for certain business I give sometimes somebody power of attorney, that "He will do this. He will sign for me." Like that. He is also one of the disciples, but for particular purpose, he is given the power of attorney. In this way when a living entity is empowered specifically to do something, that is called saktyavesa avatara. Avesa avatara. Krishna sakti vina nahe nama pracara. These are explained in the Caitanya-caritamrta. saktya Mama tejo-'msa-sambhavam. So saktyavesa avatara is not visnu-tattva. He is jiva-tattva. So the Lord Jesus Christ or Lord Buddha, they come within the jiva-tattva especial power.

The Lord then pointed out that there is no limit to the saktyavesa-avataras and that they cannot be counted. However, some can be mentioned as examples. The saktyavesa incarnations are of two kinds -- direct and indirect. When the Lord Himself comes, He is called sakshat, or a direct saktyavesa-avatara, and when He empowers some living entity to represent Him that living entity is called an indirect or avesa incarnation. Examples of indirect avataras are the four Kumaras, Narada, Prithu and Parasurama. These are actually living entities, but there is specific power given to them by the Supreme Personality of Godhead. When a specific opulence of the Supreme Lord is invested in specific entities, they are called avesa-avataras. The four Kumaras specifically represent the Supreme Lord's opulence of knowledge. Narada represents the devotional service of the Supreme Lord. Devotional service is also represented by Lord Caitanya, who is considered to be the full representation of devotional service. In Brahma the opulence of creative power is invested, and in King Prithu the power for maintaining the living entities is invested. Similarly, in Parasurama the power for killing evil elements is invested. As far as vibhati, or the special favor of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, is concerned, it is described in the Tenth Chapter of Bhagavad-gita that a living entity who appears to be especially powerful or beautiful should be known to be especially favored by the Supreme Lord.

Examples of direct or sakshad-avataras are the Sesha incarnation and the Ananta incarnation. In Ananta the power for sustaining all planets is invested, and in the Sesha incarnation the power for serving the Supreme Lord is invested.
http://vedabase.net/tlc/8/en1

In this verse the word sakshat is significant. Prithu Maharaja was a saktyavesa-avatara incarnation of Lord Vishnu. Actually Prithu Maharaja was a living entity, but he acquired specific powers from Lord Vishnu. Lord Vishnu, however, is directly the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and thus belongs to the category of vishnu-tattva. Maharaja Prithu belonged to the jiva-tattva. The vishnu-tattva indicates God, whereas the jiva-tattva indicates the part and parcel of God. When God's part and parcel is especially empowered, he is called saktyavesa-avatara. Lord Vishnu is herein described as harir isvarah.
http://vedabase.net/sb/4/19/3/en1

Sometimes Lord Vishnu appears in His person as Lord Krishna or Lord Rama. All of these appearances are mentioned in the sastras. Sometimes He appears as a saktyavesa-avatara like Lord Buddha. As explained before, these saktyavesa-avataras are incarnations of Vishnu's power invested in a living entity. Living entities are also part and parcel of Lord Vishnu, but they are not as powerful; therefore when a living entity descends as an incarnation of Vishnu, he is especially empowered by the Lord.

When King Prithu is described as an incarnation of Lord Vishnu, it should be understood that he is a saktyavesa-avatara, part and parcel of Lord Vishnu, and is specifically empowered by Him. Any living being acting as the incarnation of Lord Vishnu is thus empowered by Lord Vishnu to preach the bhakti cult. Such a person can act like Lord Vishnu and defeat demons by arguments and preach the bhakti cult exactly according to the principles of sastra.
http://vedabase.net/sb/4/19/37/en1

"Some saktyavesa-avataras are the four Kumaras, Narada, Maharaja Prithu and Parasurama. When a living being is empowered to act as Lord Brahma, he is also considered a saktyavesa-avatara.
http://vedabase.net/cc/madhya/20/369/en1

"'Whenever the Lord is present in someone by portions of His various potencies, the living entity representing the Lord is called a saktyavesa-avatara -- that is, an incarnation invested with special power.'
http://vedabase.net/cc/madhya/20/373/en1

2007-05-24 21:05:16 · answer #1 · answered by Gaura 7 · 1 0

Shaktyavesh avatar means a soul or person empowered by Lord krsna to descend and help the Lord in preaching His mission and according to Chaitanya Caritamrta which mentions about senapati bhakta Srila AC Bhaktivedanta Prabhupada was this shaktyavesha avatara who has broadcasted the message of Lord in almost every part of the world and also fulfilled Lord Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu's order of spreading the glories of Holy name in every town & village so which Srila Prabhupada has accomplished in the shortest possible time .

Also Krsna takes up many incarnations or avataras so Srimad Bhagavatam gives information on the major avataras not all

2007-05-23 23:35:08 · answer #2 · answered by Hare Krsna 2 · 1 0

Thee was a Q.TV programmed about comparison between Hinduism and Islam. The speaker indicated that He had studied all the Vedas Top to Bottom and could not find any thing in Vedas about Sambhavami Yuge yuge.. He had absolutely forgot the previous sloka. Yadaa hi yada Dharmasya glanisr bhavathi bharatha.while he spoke and laughed at..How can Krishna to be an Avatar, when Vedas do not agree.. In the same context one of famouse BJP leader tried to pray the Islam to accept Sri Krishna at least as a prophet. .Does it look funny?

2016-05-21 08:34:35 · answer #3 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

All the Avatars of Lo Maha Vishnu is described in our vedas and nothing more is left. The last one is Kalki. It is the tenth and final Maha Avatara (great incarnation) of Vishnu the Preserver, who will come to end the current Kali Yuga, (The Age of Darkness and Destruction). The name Kalki is often a metaphor for "Eternity" or "Time". The origins of the name probably lie in the word Kalka which refers to "dirt", "filth" or "foulness" and hence denotes the "Destroyer of Foulness", "Destroyer of Confusion", "Destroyer of Darkness", or "The Annihilator of Ignorance". In Hindi kal ki avatar means "tomorrow's incarnation". Other similar and divergent interpretations (based on varying etymological derivations from the ancient Sanskrit language, —including one simply meaning "White Horse") have been made.

Hindu traditions permit numerous interpretations of what Avatars are and to what purpose they act. Avatara means "descent", and indicates a descent of the divine awareness into manifestations of the mundane form.All Hindu traditions declare all people to be manifestations of the divine essence, the Atman, and Avatars to be individuals who are far more acutely and extensively aware of this fact and its implications than most, and who have entered the mortal realms voluntarily to teach important truths to humanity, and who usually have extraordinary abilities to aid in these roles.

As with the prophecies of many traditions there are many diverse beliefs and depictions as to when, how, where and why the Kalki Avatar would appear, and the Divine purpose the descent will aim to fulfill. The popular image of the Avatar is that of a rider upon a white horse, which some sources name as Devadatta (God-given) and describe as a winged horse. The most common accounts declare Kalki will come riding upon a white horse, brandishing a sword intent on eradicating the reign of evil on the Earth, vanquishing the demon Kali, reconciling all opposites, renewing the processes of the Dharma (Paths of Virtue), of Creation, and establishing a reign of righteousness.

In sanskrit the verse derived from religious Hindu text, reads: "kalkiH kaleH kAla-malAt prapAtu dharmAvanAyoru-kRtAvatAraH

"May Kalki-deva, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, who appeared as anincarnation to protect religious principles, protect me from the dirt of the age of Kali."-

2007-05-23 20:50:42 · answer #4 · answered by Jayaraman 7 · 0 0

I have been told, that we were also there during the Avataar (descension) of Krishn, but dismissed him as yet another street romeo, dancing to the tunes of the Braj Gopikas unashamedly.

The incarnation is not a physical thing, it becomes physical when the worthy souls comprehend Him. For those like me, only the physical person stands infront, and I will generally make fun of him ( Him ).

So the point is not incarnation, the point is, are we prepared for it?

N. B.

You are in my fan list and I hope to be in touch with you as we progress.

2007-05-23 20:31:35 · answer #5 · answered by Vijay D 7 · 0 0

I heard that Vyasdev is a Shaktyavesh avatar and also that Srila Prabhupad is. (from God-brothers like Srila Bhakti Pramod Puri Goswami and Srila Bhakti rakshak Sridhara Goswami)
I can't quote them though

2007-05-26 17:47:20 · answer #6 · answered by superlativemoon 3 · 1 0

i think LORD KALKI WILL BE A PURNAAVTARA LIKE LORD KRISHNA. YES I ALSO AGRE THT GOD HAS TAKEN AVTARAS REPEATEDLY IN KALYUGA SUCH AS ANSHA AVTARA AND OTHER KINDS OF AVTAARAS, AND PURAN AVTARAA TOO. FOR EG. CHRIST, SAINBABA, AND OFCOURSE CHAITANYA MAHAPRABHU AS U JUST SAID. I HAVE SEEN LORD KRISHNA'S PURNA AVTARA MANY TIMES IN THIS LIFE TOO. HE IS SO BEAUTIFUL AND JUST LOOKING AT HIM MAKES YOU FORGET ALL EGO AND FALL IN LOVE WITH HIM. YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BELIEVE ME BUT I AM SPEAKING THE TRUTH.
HE WENT BACK TO VAIKUNTHA BUT I M SURE HE IS STILL THERE ON EARTH IN SOME OTHER AVTAARA NOW.ITS NOT NECESSARY THAT ALL AVTARAS OF VISHNU ARE MENTIONED IN SRIMADBHAGVATAM.
IF YOUR GURU HAS SAID SO THEN I M SURE THAT HE WILL BE OR MUST HAVE BEEN BORN IN SAKTAVESA AVTAARA TOO.AND JESUS MUST BE THAT AVTAARA IF YOUR GURU SAID SO.

2007-05-23 21:55:06 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Fantasy and falsehood.
Bhagavan does not descend on this earth in any way or form.

2007-05-23 19:37:55 · answer #8 · answered by Who? 2 · 0 4

good info... and what does it mean overall?

2007-05-23 19:37:04 · answer #9 · answered by ManhattanGirl 5 · 0 1

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