Can jews really believe GOD gave them the land called Israel?

Question

Any criticism of Israel is answered by jews saying, "G-d gave us this land." Apparently they don't know how to spell GOD.
Who among you actually believes that GOD would single out one group of people and give them land? Where is the land grant? Where is this document? Show us the deed.

Oh, by the way, if Israel is "green and prosperous" I imagine it is the ONE TRILLION dollars that Israel has cost the US since 1947.
I could even turn North Dakota into a garden with that kind of backing!!!

So, if I go into court and tell the judge, "I want this guy's land, his farm. God told me it was mine."
Whatdya think the judge would do?

Answer 1

God gave them Israel and God took it away, the current Israel is not the real deal, otherwise it would be ruled by a king and no gay-parade would've been allowed in Jerusalem.

Answer 2

Two things....

One: Orthodox Jews do not spell or pronounce God in any of his many labels because it is disrespectful to their highest authority to do so.

two: God promised the Jew's land. The Bible doesn't say where, or what the size will be, or anything like that. The British gave the Jews Isreal after the Second World War, though the Palestinians were already there. The U.S. were the first to recognize Isreal as a country, and thus the problems began...again.

Answer 3

The earth was created by God and He can give land to whomever He desires. Note that historically, anyone else that had the land before and after the Jewish people have misused it and brought it to ruin. Look anywhere at Israel today. If it is cultivated by the Jewish people, it is fruitful and productive. If any other, it is dangerous, third world, and septic.

The Turks had it for a while, and they completely denuded it of trees. It became a desert, infected swamp and wasteland. The Jews returned, bought the lands, planted trees, drained the swamps, and now it is the 3rd largest exporter of fruit.

So, did God actually give the Jews the land? We know that only God can prophesy the future with 100% accuracy. There are more than 10 prophecies that said that God would bring them back into the land and that the barren desert would blossom and be fruitful. By this we know that it is indeed God that God gave them the land.
http://www.konig.org/page3.htm

Ezekiel 34:26-28
"I will make them and the places around My hill a blessing And I will cause showers to come down in their season; they will be showers of blessing. Also the tree of the field will yield its fruit and the earth will yield its increase, and they will be secure on their land Then they will know that I am the LORD, when I have broken the bars of their yoke and have delivered them from the hand of those who enslaved them. They will no longer be a prey to the nations, and the beasts of the earth will not devour them; but they will live securely, and no one will make them afraid."

Your argument is not with us or the Jews, it is with God. And I highly doubt He cares that the word is respectfully spelled G-d.

Answer 4

Every faith has its literalists, including Jews. The two greatest events in Jewish history are the Exodus, in which God rescued a people from slavery to give them a Law to guide them and a land to sustain them, and the Exile, in which they lost that land and had to reconstruct their theology as a result. The Diaspora taught many Jews to think of their "land" in more symbolic, spiritual terms. But as I said, their are some people who can't deal with intangibles and insist on literalism.

The Holocaust pricked the conscience of the world and allowed Zionists to have their day. Unfortunately, time had moved on and the "promised land" was in other hands. The more ardent Zionists saw their land overrun with Canaanites and Samaritans. Others realized that some kind of uneasy coexistence was necessary. (Invasion is less defensible without a divinely appointed Joshua in the lead.)

Unfortunately, there are remote "allies" helping promote the idea of a fully re-established "kingdom" of Israel, some driven by guilt, some by false nostaligia, and some by an ulterior desire to bring about the "end of time". They have no interest in the problems of real people living in the land. They are only interested in their own idealized desires.

The problem of modern day Israel/Palestine is nearly insoluble if people insist on ignoring reality for the sake of their theistic fantasies. People are threatened, injured, trapped and dying. Hatred grows when people are dehumanized, and there is blame to share on all sides. To seek the past in the future is to deny reality. We must live in the present and solve the problems it presents, not ignore them because they don't fit our mythology.

There are Jews now living in the land. There are also Palestinians living now in the land. Each is a people worthy of respect, protection and basic human rights. Those who can't understand this are doomed to always be at war. And they dishonor the reputed compassion and justice of the deity they claim to serve.

Answer 5

of direction. After the final Jewish conflict in the 2d century CE, the Roman emperor Hadrian sacked Jerusalem in one hundred thirty five CE and altered her call into Aelia Capitolina, and the call of Judea into Palestina, with the intention to erase the Jewish identity from the face of the Earth. most of the Jews have been expelled from their very very own land via the Romans, a actuality that desperate the commencing up of the great Diaspora. besides the undeniable fact that, small communities of Jews remained in the province then renamed "Palestine", and their descendants dwelled of their very very own u . s . consistently for the time of generations till the Zionist pioneers began on the mass return in the XIX century. consequently, the Jewish declare to the Land of Israel is justified not purely via an old Biblical promise, yet additionally via an eternal presence of Jews because of the fact the only indigenous ethnic community modern in the Holy Land. alongside the centuries and below diverse dominations, the "Palestinian" Jews did under no circumstances undergo assimilation yet conserved their religious and cultural identity, besides as their hyperlinks with different Jewish communities in the midsection East. the non-end pass of Mizrachim (Oriental) and Sephardim (Mediterranean) Jews to the Holy Land contributed to assist the existence of the Jewish inhabitants in the section. This enduring Jewish presence in the so-called Palestine preceded many centuries the appearance of the 1st Arab conqueror. .

Answer 6

Did you know that Muslims believe God gave them that land?

They each believe they are the descendents of Abraham. Jews of his son Isaac and Muslims of his son Ishmael.

So don't single out the Jews. Who gave our forefathers the entire Eastern Seaboard? They didn't pay for it, for the most part. Where was their document? They just created their own deeds. That is how things have always worked. People claim land.

I am a Christian, and I definitely believe the God gave Israelites the promised land. Jewish people write G-d out of respect.

Since you're interested in this topic, I recommend a history class or book on Near East history. Even if you don't believe that the Bible is God's truth, it is a fascinating subject and will clarify reasons and motives for Middle Eastern conflict.

PS The document is the Old Testament, imo.

Answer 7

No one's religious text, accurate or not gives anyone any right to any land, no discussion of who may be descendants of ancient Egyptians, no condemnations or justifications for any action the Ptolemaic, Seleucid, Roman, or Empires, or any legal discussion of whose parent were Jordanian or Egyptian citizens, makes the slightest difference in who has possession of any specific territory.
Possession is not 9/10ths of the law, possession and sovereignty makes law irelevent.

Answer 8

God doesn't need to write out a document for you...He doesn't answer to you or to anyone, He is God. He promised that land to the Jews...it's theirs, and they are right in saying so. They are the chosen people, whether you like it or not. I'm not Jewish, but at least I understand this.

God bless.

Answer 9

Well Christian felt that God gave them the Americas which gave them the right to slaughter and inprison thousands of men and women and children. Oh hey...they worship the same God. Maybe its a trend.

Answer 10

I'm sure a Jew or Christian will say its in the Bible, but since everyone doesnt follow the Bible and believe its word to be law, the entire Jewish claim on the Holy Land is subjective depending on who you ask.