Dear Atheist, its me again...?

Question

I have asked you guys alot of questions and I hope it doesnt bother you. I am just a thinker, I think all the time about things that are normally hard to say outloud or convey to someone else. Anyway I will try to ask this question in a way that is understandable. This is NOT a sarcastic or attacking, or judgeing questions, it is simply a question in order to better understand, if you are willing to share with me the true inner nature of how you feel.............thanks in advance for your answers and responses.


Atheist meaning is that you dont believe in a deity right?

I was thinking on a deeper level though, of conscienceness...
Is it the "believing in God " part that you reject. Or is it the
" Being subservient to a superior being"
And hypothetically, what if you did believe in God, would you struggle with feeling subject to Him?

In case you check back, thank you all for your responses so far I have read through them all and will read through them again. The last one right now is lets torq so if you are after him/her I will get back to it . LetsTorq, one thing I have seen is not all atheist think the same. thanks for your answer, also, I am not looking to "convert anyone" nor am I looking to be "converted" (smiles)

Answer 1

The term "atheist" is designed and used by people of religious persuasion, so as to have a simplistic and blanket name for those who do not believe in an anthropocentric deity.

The need to simplify concepts and explanations to an infantile level of comprehension is typical of christian religions, and actively avoids in depth explanations or 'unsuitable' answers to their questions.

The concept of an as yet unquantified higher power, energy or force behind the universe, or universes, is not the problem that so called athiests have with religion, particularly christianity..

The problem is that within the whole scope of the universe and all it contains, these people believe they are so special that they can communicate with this 'divine' entity, and that it has a special interest in them, above other people, above other life forms, because they are in the allegedly "correct" religious 'club'..

Does this seem ludicrous to you yet..?

Answer 2

First off, the idea of being 'subservient to a superior being' is really just a Christian and Muslim thing. The concept just doesn't exist in most other religions. The concept also just doesn't exist, except as a philosophical question, for atheists.

It's the 'being' part that we find unbelievable. I understand full well that there are natural forces which are far superior to my will and strength. And not just the obvious ones like hurricanes and climate change, I live in a malfunctioning body that sits me back down severely and painfully if I try to do what I want. I struggle with that of course, but I don't think there's an entity behind it.

It's the 'being' part. I see no reason to ascribe such qualities to any aspect of the universe.

Answer 3

Agnostic is not believing in a Deity. Most atheists are looking for proof. Also, the gods of the old and new testament are phycho and most of us do not want to be subservient to that. Jesus may have had a much different answer to things, but as most scholars agree, the gospels were written 30 to 120 after Jesus died and the rest written over the next 200 years. It is not the word of god or of Jesus, it is the word of every political activist with an attitude and a quill pen. The Gnostic bible was written by Mary Magdalena and the apostle Thomas. But to even know about that could have gotten you boiled in oil for about 1900 years.

Answer 4

I'm a pagan Taoist. It's the belief in deities that I reject... and I don't understand the need to be subject to something. As a Taoist I am part of everything. I believe energy remerges and emerges like blobs in a lava lamp.

Why must there be a hierarchy? Why should it not be that all of us are really, honestly, One? I truly do not comprehend the subservient mindset. It makes much more sense to me that we are drops in the stream and will eventually merge with the ocean. I do not mind being part of something greater than myself. I do not mind riding along or coping with a current that is stronger than myself. But I don't get why something that is so very great requires an ego-feed.

The Tao is infinite, eternal.
Why is it eternal?
It was never born;
thus it can never die.
Why is it infinite?
It has no desires for itself;
thus it is present for all beings.
.....
The great Tao flows everywhere.
All things are born from it,
yet it doesn't create them.
It pours itself into its work,
yet it makes no claim.
It nourishes infinite worlds,
yet it doesn't hold on to them.
Since it is merged with all things
and hidden in their hearts,
it can be called humble.
Since all things vanish into it
and it alone endures,
it can be called great.
It isn't aware of its greatness;
thus it is truly great.

--Tao Te Ching

Answer 5

I'm an agnostic, and the main problem for me is not so much belief in a god but believing that god is worth following. His treatment of Abraham was wrong on so many levels, and his neglect of his children in the garden of Eden was criminal.

I don't believe in the existence of this god either, but that's secondary.

Then there's the reprehensible behaviour of some believers. It is arguable whether I should judge a god by it's followers, but I do choose to do so. Quite a few show an amount of hate above and beyond that seen in non-believers. Many clearly pretend a belief that they do not actually have, and the doubt is palpable. If this is what some believers become, there is no profit in it for me.

As for being subject... If I did believe in the existence and worthiness of this god and presumably love it, then it follows logically that I would have no problem being subject to it.

Answer 6

In other words, is it an ego thing?

No. It's a rationality thing.

If you believed in Santa Claus, would you struggle with feeling pressured to behave well all year, in order to live up to his standards and earn your presents? Is it a struggle for you to get through life knowing that the Tooth Fairy isn't real? Because that's how much of a struggle life is for me, knowing that any god and all gods are equally fictitious.

Other than that, who says that this being, if it existed, would be superior? From what I've read, this deity, if it existed, would leave a LOT to be desired.

Answer 7

Honestly it just means that I do not believe in God ANY God.
to be more honest when I did have all the relgious BS in my life I stayed pi$$ed off at God most of the time so I did have problems "serving" God. I guess that is why the concept of no God made more sense than everything I had ever believed in before.
Thank you for asking in a respectful way. I am sure not all answers you get will be nice

Answer 8

Hinduism is older than Judaism, why do reject their polytheistic deities. Do you really just not want to feel subservient to superior beings?

Yes, I could never worship the Abrahamic deity, assuming that is who you're speaking of, as it is prominent in our culture right now. After studying the Bible and other religions for ten years, I can safely say that the deity is the most twisted creation to ever come out of the human mind.

Answer 9

It is the actual idea that there is no god. I've never thought about having to be subservient, if I knew that he existed than I would worship, I suppose. I think it makes it easier to understand when I tell people that I see all religions as one would see Greek Mythology. It just seems unrealistic. If there was a Zeus and I could see and talk to him, I wouldn't want to make him angry. I would worship him, but doesn't that idea seem silly? A man in the clouds with lightening bolts? It's just ridiculous to me.

Answer 10

I have nothing against the idea of there being a god, in general, there simply isn't any compelling reason to believe there is.
However, I will tell you that if the deity described in Christianity and Islam were real, I would actively oppose such a monster.