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I am told there are in excess of 6 million witnesses world wide. If Heaven is limited to 144,000 what about the rest?

2007-05-23 04:10:02 · 23 answers · asked by anne b 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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144 000 are with god, the rest are in a paradise with thier friends and family. to the best of my knowlegde that's how it works. I see no difference but supposedly there is one.

2007-05-23 04:14:03 · answer #1 · answered by Kam 3 · 6 2

Heaven is not limited to Jehovah's Witnesses....it is limited to spiritual Israelites. But these spiritual Israelites are taken from all over the world.

The earth was made for mankind to live happily forever and ever. It is not a launching pad for heaven. God gave man a command to be fruitful and fill the earth. Even with all of the ones ever born resurrected the earth would still not be full.

Jesus picked a few men and women from the earth to rule with him in heaven in his 1000 year rule.
After Armageddon there will be 1000 years where satan will not be around. He will be in the abyss. (spiritual jail)

Jesus will have a cleaning work underway to clean the earth and
bring it back to perfection.
He will raise the dead and along with those that survived Armageddon will be taught Jehovah's ways..
If they obey they are blessed with life. If they refuse they will go to sleep forever.

....Jesus will restore the earth from a dangerous slum to a safe park for our happiness and joy.

I want to live and I want all my loved ones and those that came before them to be my family. It will be a world of hope and love and happiness.

2007-05-23 04:36:44 · answer #2 · answered by debbie2243 7 · 4 2

--WHAT ABOUT THE EARTH? AND its special mention and purpose as Jesus promised it indeed would be inhabited:

".....THY KINGDOM COME THY WILL BE DONE ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN......." Matthew 6:9,10
--"Happy are the mild-tempered ones for they will inherit the earth" Matthew 5

--WHAT ABOUT Jehovah God's unyielding promise to bless righteous mankind on earth:
(Isaiah 45:18) “18 For this is what Jehovah has said, the Creator of the heavens, He the [true] God, the Former of the earth and the Maker of it, He the One who firmly established it, who did not create it simply for nothing, who formed it even to be inhabited: “I am Jehovah, and there is no one else. . .”

--WHAT ABOUT the perfect present that the earth is and has been entrusted to lovers of him, as Jesus half-brother stated:

(James 1:17) “17 Every good gift and every perfect present is from above, for it comes down from the Father of the [celestial] lights, and with him there is not a variation of the turning of the shadow.”

--Here his what he going to do to those RAPING & RUINING the earth:
(Revelation 11:18) “. . . But the nations became wrathful, and your own wrath came, and the appointed time for the dead to be judged,.... and to bring to ruin those ruining the earth.. . .”

--WHY WOULD he burn up the earth because the vermin of men are ruining it , HE & HIS Son Christ indeed love the earth & SO DO THE OVER 6 million of Jehovah's witnesses and many more honest hearted ones who have the opportunity to live on it forever!

--ARE YOU A hater or lover of the earth,? What has it done to ou that you have such contempt for it?

--UPDATE:--The 12 tribes of Rev. 7 are not the original tribes-- JOSEPH HAD NO tribe , Please look at any map of Israel to see that fact!
--The principle of what makes a Jew(which means worshipper of Jehovah) is as Paul explains a true Christian to be:

(Romans 2:28-29) “28 For he is not a Jew who is one on the outside, nor is circumcision that which is on the outside upon the flesh. 29 But he is a Jew who is one on the inside, and [his] circumcision is that of the heart by spirit, and not by a written code. The praise of that one comes, not from men, but from God.”

--SO THEN A TRUE Jew would already have to be a Christian, that is why Paul continues to express this:

(Galatians 6:12-13) “12 All those who want to make a pleasing appearance in the flesh are the ones that try to compel YOU to get circumcised, only that they may not be persecuted for the torture stake of the Christ, Jesus. 13 For not even do those who are getting circumcised keep the Law themselves, but they want YOU to be circumcised that they may have cause for boasting in YOUR flesh......(Galatians 6:15-16) “15 For neither is circumcision anything nor is uncircumcision, but a new creation [is something]. 16 And all those who will walk orderly by this rule of conduct, upon them be peace and mercy, even upon the Israel of God.”

--THUS the "Israel of God"--would have to have been the Jews who had accepted Jesus as the true messiah, not any of those that rejected him and had him murdered!
--SOMETHING that the Jews of today find totally repugnent as their unchristian blood thirstiness shows!

2007-05-23 04:27:55 · answer #3 · answered by THA 5 · 4 0

Harpazo = Rapture

END-TIME BIBLE PROPHECY

The Messiah Lord Jesus said BIRTH PANGS would signal the time of the end (Matthew 24:8). There are NINE birth pangs, they are all PRE-TRIBULATIONAL and the 1st three already occurred.

The first birth pang was worldwide conflict coupled with famines and earthquakes (Matthew 24:7-8). Worldwide conflict was fulfilled in 1914-1918, major famines happened in 1918-1921 and most of the world’s major earthquakes began to occur since 1900.

The second birth pang was the restoration of a Jewish State (Ezekiel 20:33-38; Ezekiel 22:17-22; Ezekiel 36:22-24; Zephaniah 2:1-2). This was fulfilled in 1948.

The third birth pang was Jewish control of the Old City of Jerusalem (Revelation 11:1-2). For the third Jewish Temple (Tribulation Temple) to be rebuilt, Jerusalem needs to be under Jewish control and this was accomplished in the Six Day War in 1967.

The fourth birth pang will be the Ezekiel 38 war. Russia, allied states of Iran, Ethiopia, Somalia, Germany and Armenia will invade Israel. God will miraculously destroy the invading army by earthquake, civil war among the invading soldiers, pestilence, blood, flood, hailstones, fire and brimstone. This will bring a revival in Israel where many Jews will turn to the Lord, and Israel will spend 7 years and 7 months burying the bodies and burning for fuel the military equipment left behind (Ezekiel 39:9-16).

The 5th birth pang will be the development of a one world government (Daniel 7:23-24).

The 6th birth pang will be the splitting of the one world government into 10 kingdoms and this Ten Kingdom Stage will continue until mid-Tribulation (Daniel 7:24).

The 7th birth pang will be the revelation of the Antichrist (II Thessalonians 2:1-3; Daniel 7:24).

The 8th birth pang will be a period of peace and false security that will be shattered by the Tribulation (1 Thessalonians 5:1-3).

The 9th and final birth pang before the Tribulation is the signing of the 7-year covenant between Israel and the Antichrist. THIS EVENT IS WHAT BEGINS THE (7-year) TRIBULATION - NOT THE RAPTURE!

The Rapture of the Church (1 Thessalonians 4:16-18) is also a pre-tribulational event (Luke 21:34-37; 1 Thessalonians 1:9-10; 1 Thessalonians 5:1-10; Revelation 3:10; Revelation 19:6-8). The fact that the Church is not mentioned in any of the Tribulation Scriptures proves the Rapture is pre-tribulational. All raptured Christians will receive glorified bodies (Romans 8:22-23; 1 Corinthians 15:50-54)) and it can happen at any second.


THE FIRST HALF OF THE TRIBULATION (SUPPORTING VERSES IN REVELATION 6-9 AND 17)

The Ministry of 144,000 sealed Jewish believers will bring many throughout the world to accept Christ.

There will be a powerful Ministry of Two Witnesses who will also be anointed Jewish believers.

A one world religious system (Babylon the Harlot) will rule. Under this one world religious system, many who are saved during the Tribulation will suffer persecution and death.

The Political system of the 10 kings of the one world government will continue.

During the first half of the Tribulation there will also be war, worldwide famine, death (1/4 of the world’s population will die), a huge earthquake, a blackout and a meteor shower. 1/3 of earth’s dry surface will be destroyed, 1/3 sea life and salt water will be destroyed, a fallen angel called Wormwood will make 1/3 of earth’s fresh water bitter, 1/3 of earth’s natural light sources will be destroyed, there will be another blackout and demons in the form of “locust-scorpions” will come up out of the abyss led by Abaddon their king and they will inflict harm and pain for five months upon those who are not sealed by God (unbelievers). Another demonic invasion will occur and the demons involved will be led by four fallen angels who will be released from the Euphrates River and this army will kill 1/3 of the earth’s population.


MID-TRIBULATION (SUPPORTING VERSES IN REVELATION 10-14 AND 17)

The Antichrist will war against the 10 kings, and during the war the Antichrist will be killed.

Satan will be cast out of the atmospheric heavens onto earth and will resurrect the Antichrist.

The Antichrist will kill 3 kings (the kings of Syria, Egypt and Mesopotamia) and the 7 other kings will submit to him.

The Antichrist will kill the Two Witnesses in Jerusalem and the wicked people will celebrate this event. Three and a half days afterwards, God will resurrect the Two Witnesses and take them up to Heaven and the people who celebrated will become terrified. The city of Jerusalem where the murder of the Two Witnesses occurred will then suffer an earthquake which will kill 7,000 people.

The False Prophet will receive from Satan the power to perform great miracles and will deceive many. The False Prophet will command all people to worship the Antichrist and have persons create an image to the Antichrist. The False Prophet will use his satanic powers to give it life and the ability to speak. The False Prophet will cause those who refuse to worship the Antichrist and the image to be killed.

The False Prophet will issue his own counterfeit seal known as the Mark of the Beast and it will be placed on all those who surrender to the Antichrist’s authority and accept him as god. Those who refuse to take this mark will not be able to buy or sell. Those who take this mark will spend eternity in the Lake of Fire.

The Antichrist will break the seven-year covenant he made with Israel, cause the sacrifices to stop, sit in the Jewish Temple, declare to the world that he is really God and set up an idol called the Abomination of Desolation in the Temple (Daniel 9:27; Daniel 12:11; Matthew 24:15-16; 11Thessalonians 2:3-4; Revelation 13:11-15).

Through the Antichrist and the False Prophet, Satan will attempt to destroy the Jews once and for all but he will fail because 1/3 of the Jews will succeed in fleeing into the wilderness. These Jews who escape will accept the Lord Jesus as their Saviour during the Tribulation (Zechariah 13:7-9) and while they are in hiding, God will miraculously provide for them (Zechariah 13:8-9; Isaiah 41:17-20). Divine intervention will also destroy the pursuing army.


THE SECOND HALF OF THE TRIBULATION (SUPPORTING VERSES FOUND IN REVELATION 15, 16, 18, 19, 20)

In the second half of the Tribulation, those with the Mark of the Beast will suffer skin sores, the remainder of sea water and fresh water will be destroyed, the sun will cause terrible burns and the wicked will blaspheme God. There will be yet another blackout and persons will suffer gnawing pains.

Babylon will be the center of world economy and political system but Babylon will be swiftly destroyed by fire and become uninhabitable for man.

The Antichrist will locate the Jews who sought refuge in the wilderness and surround them with his armies to wipe them out. The Lord Jesus will then descend from Heaven with His angels and Saints. He will come with great glory riding upon a horse and will destroy the Antichrist, the False Prophet and all of their armies. After this, a loud voice will cry out “It is done!” followed by the greatest earthquake in the earth’s history and hail weighing 120 pounds will fall.

At the end of the Tribulation, there will be another blackout, the stars will fall from the sky and the heavenly bodies will be shaken (Matthew 24:29), the Antichrist and the False Prophet will be thrown into the eternal Lake of Fire and Satan will be cast into the Abyss and bound for 1,000 years.


THE MILLENNIUM

The Lord Jesus will reign over the entire earth during the Millennium. The Jewish and Gentile believers who survive the Tribulation will go on to populate the Millennium. Believers who died before and during the Tribulation and believers who were raptured will be present on earth during the Millennium and because they will have glorified bodies they will not reproduce. All believers will be given special tasks by the Lord Jesus (Revelation 20:4-6). There will be no wars (Isaiah 2:2-4), animals will return to the Edenic state and become vegetarians (Isaiah 11:6-9), people will not labour in vain but eat what they plant and inhabit what they build, there will be renovations in the heavens and earth and there will be righteous and unrighteous children born during the Millennium (Isaiah 65:17-25).

At the end of the Millennium, Satan will be loosed from the Abyss and will deceive and gather the unrighteous for a war against the righteous. This will be his final attempt to destroy the righteous and when the unrighteous of the Millennium surround the good people, God will send fire down from Heaven which will suddenly and massively annihilate all of the wicked people. Satan will then be cast into the Lake of Fire where he will remain in torment for eternity (Revelation 20:7-10).


THE GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGMENT

The Great White Throne Judgment will be the next main event. The old heavens and earth will be done away with and all will stand before God’s throne to be judged (Revelation 20:11-12). Those whose names are not found written in the Book of Life will be cast into the Lake of Fire which will be their final and eternal abode (Revelation 20:14-15).


THE ETERNAL ORDER (REVELATION 21 AND 22)

Those whose names are found in the Book of Life will enjoy paradise with God forever. The heavens and earth will be made new and the New Jerusalem will come down upon the earth making the earth like Heaven. All curses from the fall will be removed and the earth will be inhabited by the Triune God (The Father, Son and Holy Spirit), all angels and all of the righteous. The seas, moon, night and sun will be done away with and the glory of God will illuminate the earth. The River of Life will flow from God’s throne, the Tree of Life will bear health-giving fruits and leaves and the name of Jesus will be on the foreheads of all of the righteous.


God’s Plan of Salvation for Us
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZkDk1GZ7do

2015-03-23 04:48:50 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

hun its not limited to 144,000 Witnesses its limited to 144,000 people in general and the rest will live forever on a paradise earth or be destroyed... if anyone does not understand this its easy to pick up your bible and read it.. this is in plain writing no confusion.

2007-05-23 04:19:10 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 7 1

For those of you religious people who cannot answer this question you may see this as an opportunity to view your teachings in a different light by questioning intelligently as opposed to following blindly.

Religions do not reflect the true nature of reality ; there are Many Christian off-shoot religions and All claim they alone "are the way"; that is the one thing they have in common as they appear to be going "up" to heaven; yet, being so conditioned in ones own teachings hardly leaves room for teachings outside of that particular religion; and this is truth in religion as it has been; you shall believe what we teach, or you shall suffer the consequences; an age old extortion of "faith" based on fear. The fears your yours alone and you alone creat them.

2007-05-23 04:31:43 · answer #6 · answered by Adonai 5 · 1 3

Hey, anyone who is brainless/gullible enough to take as gospel the teachings of a religion which is only 138 years old and didn't even become known as the JW's until 1931 deserves to be slapped with a large wet salmon. I mean, what did the human race do for the previous few thousand years without this self righteous,preachy,hypocritical,and utterly detestable religion?

2007-05-23 05:22:40 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 4

The vast majority of Witnesses hope to enjoy life ON EARTH forever, rather than in heaven. Jehovah's Witnesses understand heaven to refer to the dwelling place of spirit creatures such as Jesus and the angels. They understand the Scriptures to teach that exactly 144,000 humans will join Christ Jesus as kings and priests to administer God's Kingdom (which will soon replace all earthly governments).
(Daniel 2:44) God of heaven will set up a kingdom... It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite
(Revelation 14:1) Lamb [Jesus] standing upon the Mount Zion, and with him a hundred and forty-four thousand
(Revelation 20:6) they will be priests of God and of the Christ, and will rule as kings with him

The men and women who make up the 144,000 are selected by God from among two thousand years of Christians. Over whom will they rule? Over the vast majority of mankind, most of whom will have been raised from the dead after Armageddon.
(John 11:23,24) Jesus said to her: “Your brother will rise.” Martha said to him: “I know he will rise in the resurrection on the last day.”

Hell is NOT someplace/something mankind needs to fear; there is no suffering in the grave. Sometime after the resurrection, death and "hell" will themselves be destroyed.
(Ecclesiastes 9:5) For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all
(Ecclesiastes 9:10) there is no work nor devising nor knowledge nor wisdom in Sheol ["hell"]
(Revelation 20:14) And death and Hades ["hell"] were hurled into the lake of fire


Almighty Jehovah God selects those few who have the heavenly calling. Each person "feels" his own hope and each person's hope remains unquestioned by his fellow Christians. Still the vast majority (literally more than 99.9%*) of Jehovah's Witnesses expect an EARTHLY hope, the same hope given to Adam and Eve.
(Genesis 1:28) God blessed them and God said to them: “Be fruitful and become many and fill THE EARTH and subdue it [caps added]
(Genesis 2:17) You must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will positively die [so never eating from that tree means never dying]

Learn more:
http://watchtower.org/e/20001001/article_02.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/20001001/
http://watchtower.org/e/jt/

2007-05-23 10:29:36 · answer #8 · answered by achtung_heiss 7 · 2 2

You are confused about this scripture. I used to think that was the total number of Christians that would go to Heaven, regardless of their denomination. However, I now understand that the 144,000 is the number of Jews who will accept Christ during the Great Tribulation.

Revelation 7:3-9

3"Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God." 4Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.
5From the tribe of Judah 12,000 were sealed,
from the tribe of Reuben 12,000,
from the tribe of Gad 12,000,
6from the tribe of Asher 12,000,
from the tribe of Naphtali 12,000,
from the tribe of Manasseh 12,000,
7from the tribe of Simeon 12,000,
from the tribe of Levi 12,000,
from the tribe of Issachar 12,000,
8from the tribe of Zebulun 12,000,
from the tribe of Joseph 12,000,
from the tribe of Benjamin 12,000.

Revelation 14:2-6
2And I heard a sound from heaven like the roar of rushing waters and like a loud peal of thunder. The sound I heard was like that of harpists playing their harps. 3And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. 4These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they kept themselves pure. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among men and offered as firstfruits to God and the Lamb. 5No lie was found in their mouths; they are blameless."

2007-05-23 04:25:59 · answer #9 · answered by Romans 8:28 5 · 1 5

The rest hope to live forever on a paradise earth. They (correctly) say only those anointed with God's Holy Spirit will get to be with Christ in heaven, and happily state they don't have that anointing, nor do they seem bothered that they don't have it. They think they can be Christians without being born again. Well. I'm not here to explain why they think that. You are going to get inundated with JW answers telling you!

However, I would suggest all JWs take a look at Paul's allegory of Hagar and Sarah in Galatians 4:21-31. In the JW scheme of things, the children of the free woman, Sarah / Jerusalem above, are a tiny number. Yet Paul said the children of Sarah would greatly surpass those of the bond-woman, Hagar. All JWs apart from the claimed 144,000 know they cannot expect to be in heavenly Jerusalem (above) because they have not been adopted into God's heavenly family. That means they are still in bondage! Only those adopted are set free! Yet they've turned this allegory on its head and limited the 'seed' to a mere 144,000 people from earth! No! It will be a vast, humanly impossible number to count that will be in heaven! I wish JWs would waken up to the bondage that chains them to earth.

2007-05-23 04:21:09 · answer #10 · answered by Annsan_In_Him 7 · 4 8

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