Non believers - are you rejecting the idea of God because of the conditions? Read below carefully!!?

Question

This is a follow up to my previous question. Please read q&a's again.

As a non believer myself, I was disappointed to read how most of the rejection was less to do with suddenly knowing the truth and embracing it and more to do with worrying about how it's going to affects ones life.

Read answers from:Dave P, Joe M, Eri, Southpaw, Lokasenna, Tao, slave of 12gods, bring me sunshine, squirrel, Andrew W, Institution, Aniime_Dragon, sister flump

Remember, this would be a God and would explain all the awful and hideous occurances that have occured.
God is now here, full proof is demonstrated for you, offers eternal happiness and explains how you might not understand how that works.

Humour me here, but are you still going to reject God because it means worshipping and following God and you would have to give some of your valued life doing I don't what.
How important would that seem now?
(just playing devil's advocate - how apt)

Please understand this is a God - NO CONNECTION TO JESUS

Please people, work with me here...
Still getting "I can't believe" answers.

Reject God fine but Don't reject my scenario.

God would not be forcing you - you still choose..

Wow - am I the only total non believer that when presented with this, I would say thank you v much, eternal happiness, you say it works fine-your god-you should know, be with my wife, kids, family forever.

A no brainer surely...

Answer 1

The only chance of having sympathy/empathy towards a God would be the following scenario.
If the God that created everything was a non-interventionist type of god, i.e all he could do was create the initial conditions for the universe to exist, and he was most apologetic for the fact that life arose from it and all the suffering that can entail from having a nervous system and a brain i may have some sympathy.
But really, he would have had to of been some sort of renegade scientist, messing around with an idea and things sort of lost control. I`m sure he`s scientific ethics committee would not have been best pleased.
However - eternal happiness - mmmm... all i can think of is either being like a drugged up E-head for eternity (not a pretty picture) or some really annoying hippy.
We need to be unhappy to understand/feel what happiness is.
So no, i just think i find the whole idea rather unpleasant and actually quite horrific.
Give me a finite life anytime :)

Answer 2

You're a little more detailed here than you were in the previous question.

I suppose I would be stunned and fascinated - and probably a bit skeptical. (pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!)

It's an interesting speculation there that this god would explain anything - gods don't really seem to be into explaining themselves to folks.

Then I think I'd probably be a little pissed - ok, so great, you've got this awesome plan for eternal happiness but first I had to jump through all these hurdles of crap to prove that I was worthy of being happy? Yeah, not really sure I could go 'oh, yeah, now I get it'.

Answer 3

Cool, my name was mentioned in yet another question.

I wouldn't reject acknowledging the existence of a god, no, not if there was enough evidence for his existence. As I said, I would be rather happy if Odin showed up. I think it'd be pretty neat to spend the afterlife in one of the many halls in Asgard, feasting, drinking mead with my ancestors and preparing for Ragnarök.

AND as I said, rather disappointed of the biblical god showed up. I would not and cannot bow down and worship such an evil deity it would go against everything I believe. Even if you were to prove to me that YHVH was running the show I would not worship him for moral reasons. It would by default make me a maltheist. And yeah, I'd be with Acid Zebra...such a god would have to be exterminated for the good of humankind.

You didn't get my last answer at all did you? I don't reject your god because I don't like the idea of worshiping gods (as stated, I'd have no problem going back to worshiping the Norse deities should I ever get evidence that they exist), I reaction your god for two reasons: A) No evidence and B) He is evil.

And as I said last time, I have absolutely no desire nor want for "eternal life". Sorry but that sales pitch does not work on me. One of the things that appealed to be about Asatru was that even though there is an afterlife, it doesn't go on for all eternity. You do at some point cease to exist. This is important. You want to know why I don't want to life forever? Because eventually you would have experienced everything there was to experience. You would learn everything there was to learn. Then what? Most people don't think that far ahead. Sure the afterlife spent with loved ones sounds like a pleasant idea in theory, but not eternal life. No thanks.

Answer 4

My disbelief has nothing to do with the alternate of embracing some fantastical idea of a living god. I simply don't believe it because I haven't seen it or tasted it, or felt it or seen any evidence of it. The only reason the subject og god crops up is because other people believe it and feel that they should promote their belief by telling hearsay stories that have no evidentiary value whatsoever and accordingly does not sway me from my state of being atheistic.

Answer 5

For a rational person, the evidence in support of the idea that invisible, magical sky-fairies (gods) exist is not compelling, and is therefore insufficient to initiate or sustain a state of 'belief'. There is really no more to it than that. It is equivalent to NOT believing in the Tooth Fairy, bridge trolls, garden gnomes and monsters-under-the-bed... which are equally silly (but not nearly so dangerous) ideas.

Answer 6

If you really want to know what I've been thinking about God and all that, check out my most recent blog entry on my 360 page (link's on my Answer's profile)

I don't fully reject the idea of God, I just have a lot of questions.

Answer 7

Example of an Atheist who has reverted back to religion is Professor Jeffery Lang (Phd), a professor from University of Kansas. He was a Roman Catholic. He became an Atheist when he was 18 years old. In early 1980s he reverted back to religion.

Answer 8

I think you're correct in saying that many do not want to even consider the idea of Christianity because of "what they would have to give up." But all that shows is an incomplete understanding of Christ.

It would be like thinking about marriage in this manner: "I will have to give up my freedom, my "say" in things, my time, possibly some of my income, my space, etc." without considering the immeasurable benefits of marriage.

Or like thinking that having children is ONLY sacrifice, and not considering the amazing treasure that is found in being a parent.

Why is it when it comes to Christianity that the first thing people consider is what "they are giving up", instead of the amazing miracle that is available to them, unmerited and undeserved, out of true love....

I don't know, but that was the case for many of us who now believe.

Answer 9

I reject the idea of God because it has no basis in fact
It has no appeal as a fiction either..

Answer 10

"God is now here, full proof is demonstrated for you, offers eternal happiness and explains how you might not understand how that works."