1 in 5 Million chances for a mistake if 'Jesus Tomb' does not belong to Jesus, so Jesus was just a human?

Question

the "Jesus tomb' documentary said pretty clearly that its going to be 1 in 5 million chance to be wrong, though its common name at the time, but mathmatically its one in 5 million chance to get it wrong, because all the names matches the bible, also his brother's nick name was on one of the tomb, so i guess Jesus was really just a human with a family?

Answer 1

Yeah,didn't you know,he is just a human messenger from God,but Christians' imagination is wide a little.

Answer 2

I found the following sites helpful:

http://www.TheLostTombofJesus.com

http://www.FakeTombofJesus.com


1. Ossuaries 'practice' were from 1 century BC to 2nd
century AD. Book and film assumes everyone lived at
the same time around 70 AD. Doesn't explore the fact
that this tomb encompasses over 100 years. This is
more than likely a multi-generational tomb.

2. DNA evidence proves Mariamne and Jesus did not have
the same mother. Which further supports the idea that
this was a multi-generational tomb. No data shows
they were married, only an assumption by the filmmakers.

3. Dr. Carney Matheson, the scientist from Lakehead
University who did the DNA testing for the filmmakers,
has pointed out publicly that his work was overhyped.
"The only conclusions we made was that these two sets [from the "Yeshua" and
"Mariamne" ossuaries] were not maternally related," he
said. "To me it sounds like absolutely nothing." He
added, "There is a statement in the film that has
been taken out of context. While marriage is a possibility,
other relationships like father and daughter, paternal
cousins, sister-in-law or indeed two unrelated individuals are also possible."

4. No dating has been done on any of these ossuaries.
Jesus could have been the grandfather of Mary, or Joseph
could have been the husband of Mary. There is no proof
that they were all immediately related (versus
multi-generational).

5. The James ossuary was found in 1976 (photo exist and
dated by FBI). Talpiot tomb was found in 1980. Scholars
contacted the archaeologist that cataloged these ossuaries
personally. His name is Joe Zias. "“…the 10th was plain
and I put it out in the courtyard with all the rest of
the plain ossuaries as was the standard procedure when
one has little storage space available. Nothing was
stolen nor missing and they were fully aware of this
fact, just didn't fit in with their agenda.”

Conclusion: James ossuary is more than likely not part
of the Talpiot tomb.

Also, this film was released without academic review.
Now what the heck is that? Like Consumer Reports, they
review products to see if it is safe and to see if the
proper research has been done. In this case, scholars
were not allowed to see the evidence or the hypothesis.
They hired one scholar (Tabor) but he is a paid
consultant who wanted to prove this tomb as Jesus'
tomb since 1996. So he is biased.

There is hope however. A new book I heard about on the
news the other day, combined with scholars,
archaeologists, and scientists -- have now been published.
This is what everyone has been waiting for.
The book is called The Jesus Tomb:
Is It Fact or Fiction? Scholars Chime In [isbn: 0978834690].

Answer 3

Where did you hear that? The "Jesus tomb" was considered a fraud when it was discovered over ten years ago, and its status has not changed, no matter what some "documentary" says. There are several reasons why the "Jesus tomb" is not actually the tomb of Jesus Christ. I'll name the three main problems with it:
1. The name is similar, but different.
2. Jesus would not have been known as "Jesus, son of Joseph." He would have been known as Jesus of Nazareth. Jerusalem was a pretty large city, even two thousand years ago. And Jesus was a common name. It's the equivalent of "John Smith." Joseph was a common name, as well.
3. No one at the time claimed that Jesus's tomb was not empty.

As a sidenote, archaeologists believe they found the real tomb. The story goes that when Hadrian became Roman emperor in about 117 A.D., he began heavily persecuting the Christians. One of the things that he did was have pagan temples built on two different sites that Christian pilgrims gathered at: One was an empty tomb in Jerusalem. The other was a cave in Bethlehem.
In the 4th century, when Constantine became emperor, he sent his mother Helena to find these sites. She found them, and built churches over them.

Fast forward over fifteen hundred years. Archaeologists uncovered two 4th century churches; one in Jerusalem and one in Bethlehem. Under these churches were the ruins of pagan temples. Under the ruins were an empty tomb and a cave.

Answer 4

First, according to the documentary, there was a chance of 1 in 600, not 1 in 5 million.

Second, the names on the ossuaries were not (according to experts) all written in the same language. Some were written in Aramaic, others in Hebrew, and another in Greek. This indicates they were not buried in a similar time period.

Additionally, it should be noted that the names of Jesus, Mary, and Joseph were extremely common in the first century. About 25% of the women in Jesus’ day were named Mary. Joseph was also a common name. And about one in ten had the name, “Jesua”.

The statistical support for the entire “Jesus tomb” theory rises or falls on the question of Mary Magdalene. So did the name Mariamene e Mara mean Mary Magdalene, as Cameron and Jacobovici attempt to prove? Not according to most experts. Their interpretation is simply not supported by evidence. Bauckham notes, “The first use of ‘Mariamene’ for Magdalene dates to a scholar who was born in 185, suggesting that Magdalene wouldn't have been called that at her death.“

But what about the DNA tests? Doesn’t that prove Jesus was in the tomb? Let’s look closer at what the DNA test measured. It took residue (there were no bones to examine) from the ossuaries Jacobovici identified as belonging to both Jesua and Mariamene, and used mitochondrial DNA testing to see if they were related. The results proved to be negative, indicating to him that the two individuals were not related maternally. He thus assumes the two were married. But Bauckham isn’t impressed. He writes, “If ‘Jesus’ and ‘Mariamene’ weren't related matrilineally, why jump to the conclusion that they were husband and wife, rather than being related through their fathers? “

Also, it was common practice in those days to bury somone in the city of their birth or hometown. So both Joseph and Jesus would have been buried either in Bethlehem or Nazareth, not Jerusalem.

Now I'll close with a question. Why would Jesus’ disciples endure torture for claiming he was resurrected, if they knew it was a hoax?

Answer 5

How many times have you heard that they found something like this? How many times have they been unable to prove anything conclusive.

It is sometimes an occurance that a tomb could be filled with someone elses body.

I would be careful of what you believe about this.

Jesus said, "There will be those who will say, 'Jesus is in the Forest, come and see' but I say to you do not go as I will not be there. There will be those who will say, 'Jesus is in the desert, come and see' but I say to you do not go as I will not be there."

Jesus also said, "Many will come in my name, and many will be decieved."

If Jesus is who HE claims to be as written in the bible, and you believe the corps in the tomb is HIM, then where will your belief lead you?

If I believe that Jesus is who HE claims to be as written in the Bible, and it proves that it is He who lays in that tomb, then what harm will my belief lead me to?

I would rather believe that Jesus is who he said he is, than be caught being a non-believer.

Matthew 24 also warns of "Wars and Rumors of Wars." Until recently I thought that rumors of wars were nothing but the reports of war on the news. I had no concept of this "War on Terror" which is truly a rumor of a war as there is NO Truly defined enemy. and these wars are the beginning of the end according to Matthew 24. Interesting that your corps and tomb comes at the same time as the rumors of war and both my quotes are from the same point in those scriptures.

Edit: Also it used to be common place to name another child the same as an older child lost at an earlier time. So, there is the posibility that a sister, or brother ( and he did have them) could have had a family member named Jesus that was related to Jesus the Christ. There are lots of possibilities. There are always going to be people who want to believe that Jesus is not the Christ.

Answer 6

It depends if you beleive in Jesus or not, if you are like me and others of this world you do beleive in Jesus, and know that he is not dead nor is he buried on this earth, he is up in heaven, he died on the cross for our sins and 3 days later he arose, and went up to heaven, so there is no chance his body can be here on earth in the so called Jesus tomb, there however could be many tombs with the bodys of people named Jesus, as this was and continues to be a popular name before and after Jesus came, as for his family tombs, well that is different as his "family" were human so it can be asumed that there tombs could be found, but I would think being a poor family that they wouldnt of had fancy tombs, also their names would of been popular names, at that time and definitly after Jesus was here on Earth.

Answer 7

That 'documentary' was very false and misleading. The contemporaries of Jesus would have known where the tomb was and would have been more than happy to disprove the disciples when they said his body wasn't in the tomb anymore. Likewise, the disciples would not have followed Christ in death for a lie they could have escaped from.

I'd be more likely to believe they had a 1 in 10^153 chance of getting it right (which is the statiscial possibility of somone fulfilling all of the OT prophesies of messiah - which Christ fulfilled to the letter).

Answer 8

Your problem is that you believe man more than you believe God.

No, there will be NO tomb that Jesus Christ, God's only son, would have remained in, because He rose from the dead and His body did not remain on earth.

I believe God over man. Shouldnt you?

Answer 9

Yes.. He came from heaven and acted like a human being in everything... The only difference was that He was with no sin
But no one knows were is His tomb...
And if they know.... what's wrong with that?
Is it just the only reason to deny him???!!

Answer 10

Its the satan talking inside of u ...get rid of it