This person I was talking to started saying that God has a plan for everyone and when you die that is the time you should die,but I asked him"What about the people that get brutally killed?"Did God plan that for them?He is like"Yes",that is what he had planned to that person's life...I could not believe that he said God is a murder,it really got me upset to know that someone thinks that way.God would never plan that for anybody, it can happened but that has nothing to with God,it has to do with evil people.What do you think?What can I tell that person to make him change the way he thinks?
2007-05-22 19:44:10 · 31 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
God wouldn't plan for you to get brutally stabbed to death or anything like that...the person I was talking to is a true idiot
2007-05-22 19:46:11 · update #1
God is Good all the time. People get brutally murderd because everyone is Kicking God out of our lives. How can God protect us when He is not let in. like a watch dog what good is it when it is locked in the dog pen.
2007-05-22 19:52:21 · answer #1 · answered by Kristenite’s Back! 7 · 4⤊ 3⤋
God indeed does have a plan for everyone. The statement the person gave you is valid. Please read up on predestination. We are here for his purpose not ours. Remember back to the days of David and Saul, there was a purpose for Sauls son Jonathon, Davids best friend being run through with the sword. While Jonathon was innocent, there was a predestinated purpose for his death. Even though we may not understand the reason, it is not our places to question Gods perfect will or his sovereignty. All we can do is pray that we are in Gods will and be obedient to his perfect word. By doing this we are always ready to meet him, no matter what he has predestinated for us.
PS Keep in mind the spiritual effect that Jonathons death played on the greatest king Israel had other than God. Sometimes something that may not make sense to someone, may save someone else.
Eph. 1:11
In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:
2007-05-23 03:05:37 · answer #2 · answered by John 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Which god? If the god you're talking about is bible god then of course he planned everything. God is omniscient, all-knowing...that means all, as in there is nothing he doesn't know and hasn't known forever. Bible god is described as all-powerful as well, which means he has the ability to stick his arm down here and do whatever he wants, like when he answers prayers etc.. Bible god is also described as all-loving which means that he would stop major injustices.
This is the classic problem from evil that has never been answered satisfactorily. It disproves the existence of a god described as all-knowing, all-powerful and all-loving.
“The gods can either take away evil from the world and will not, or, being willing to do so cannot; or they neither can nor will, or lastly, they are able and willing. If they have the will to remove evil and cannot, then they are not omnipotent. If they can but will not, then they are not benevolent. If they are neither able nor willing, they are neither omnipotent nor benevolent.. Lastly, if they are both able and willing to annihilate evil, why does it exist? ” -Greek philosopher Epicurus (341-270 BCE)
2007-05-23 03:01:33 · answer #3 · answered by AiW 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I am glad that you ask this. It is wonderful that you question God. That is what he really wants us to do. He NEVER meant for us to be blind sheep following some man-made religious drivel. God gave us independent thoughts and choices. I do believe that God is omnipotent and that the word "God" is simply a name that we have chosen. The truth is that he/it is an energy that flows through us all. Now as for this "plan" that you speak of, well, I think that there may be a set path that we are on, however, it is a shame that some lives are ended with violence, however, it is the way of life, "population control." I know that it sounds horrible, and please don't anyone email me and give me beef, this is my opinion. God's plan does not really concern our bodies (outer shell), but it concerns our souls. Does anyone really think that God is concerned with our wrinkles, gray hair or cellulite? No. There is no good way to change your friends' thought process, but maybe you can lead by example.
2007-05-23 02:58:15 · answer #4 · answered by alimon72 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I guess you need the old testament more. God has allowed a lot of things to happend. The book of Job is a good case. Job's children where all killed while they were at a birthday party. Samson died amonst the Philistines. Yes, I believe God has the power to stop these tragic deaths but He allows this to happen as man has free will.
God destroyed the entire world except for Noah and his family. God destroyed the first born of Pharoah and spared the first born of the Jews. Passover?
God's plan of salvation is wisdom to the believer but foolishness to the unbeliever.
2007-05-23 02:51:59 · answer #5 · answered by paul y 3 · 4⤊ 0⤋
I feel that God has a purpose and a plan for each and everyone of us. I feel that we have a truly loving, kind, and forgiving God. And no, I don't feel that God plans for anyone's brutal death. Murder is against the ten commandments, so why would God "break" one of those commandments as a plan. I feel that when someone is brutally murdered or dies untimely from a drunk driver or some such, that it is an accident. God set the world in order and gave us the Bible as our guide. But He also gifted us with free will. Many times, that free will goes hand in hand with evil and wrong doings. When someone is murdered, I don't feel it is God's plan, I feel that they were in the presence of evil and met their demise.
2007-05-23 02:51:24 · answer #6 · answered by ¤¤Je§§ica¤¤ 4 · 2⤊ 1⤋
I don't believe God exactly "planned" a brutal death, but I believe in karma and reincarnation and that all are accountable for their actions. We reap what we sow, therefore if a brutal death occurs, we are simply reaping what we have sowed. Because we have no memory of our past lives does not mean we are free from our actions. Cause and effect. We put forth an ill thought-out cause and we must live out the effects ....
God formulated the system, but we are the 'worker bees" that make it happen ... cause and effect.
Sorry I could not bolster your argument with your friend.
2007-05-23 02:51:35 · answer #7 · answered by MyPreshus 7 · 2⤊ 2⤋
I do believe God has a timetable for everyone. But I believe it is often times man that dictates the circunstances. I do not believe God plans murders or bombing or horrible car accidents those things are created by man and the free will God has given us.
2007-05-23 02:51:15 · answer #8 · answered by Mee-Maw 5 · 3⤊ 0⤋
The trouble with 'god belief' is that you can not just take as 'true', the nice bits.
The religious quickly latch on to the belief that god saves people but when something bad happens, cannot accept that to be thier god's work.
Life is all swings and round-a-bouts, bad things happen, as do good things.
There is no god deciding what should happen, just people.
2007-05-23 02:57:02 · answer #9 · answered by cananddo 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I do believe that God has a purpose for each of us, but to die or to suffer is not in that purpose. He does not control what we do. If he did, that would take away who we are.
What that person believes in just one of many thoughts preached by particular "religions". Men made religions. They are not from God.
I believe that people need to move away from specific religions and move toward a personal relationship with God. He alone can lead them in the right direction for their lives.
2007-05-23 02:49:48 · answer #10 · answered by Poohcat1 7 · 3⤊ 0⤋
There is nothing you can do or say to 'make' that person change their mind if they are intent on believing that. But you can give them the Word of God. God said that His Word will not return unto Him void. May God Bless U.
2007-05-23 02:48:55 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 0⤋