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St. John Chrysostom: “I know that many people hold a high regard for the Jews and consider their way of life worthy of respect at the present time... This is why I am hurrying to pull up this fatal notion by the roots ... A place where a whore stands on display is a whorehouse. What is more, the synagogue is not only a whorehouse and a theater; it is also a den of thieves and a haunt of wild animals ... not the cave of a wild animal merely, but of an unclean wild animal ... When animals are unfit for work, they are marked for slaughter, and this is the very thing which the Jews have experienced. By making themselves unfit for work, they have become ready for slaughter. This is why Christ said: “as for my enemies, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them and slay them before me’ (Luke 19.27).”



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2007-05-22 16:26:16 · 21 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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You are citing an early Church Father, who is not himself calling for the slaughter of Jews, but quoting a parable of Jesus. The parable does indeed refer to all enemies of Jesus, be they Jew or Gentile, (false) Christian or Muslim, who will be destroyed when Jesus returns in power and glory to establish His earthly Kingdom and remove all the wicked from the earth.
I hope that doesn't include you.

2007-05-22 16:40:00 · answer #1 · answered by wefmeister 7 · 4 0

1. St. John Chrysostom did not write any portion of the Bible, either Old or New Testament. His quotes are his own opinions, and may not be taken as doctrine, unless declared so by some religious authority (like the Pope, whoever he was, at the time of that document's publication or afterwards).

2. The quote from Luke 19:27 is taken out of context. I can't tell if it was quoted by you or John C.? At any rate, the job really sucks. Jesus was telling a parable about another king's crowning, and likening it to the judgement at the end of the world. This is NOT a blanket endorsement for slaughter! If we read the parable in its entirety, we see that the king goes away to be declared king, and then returns. When the King takes full control of the Kingdom on his return, He passes out rewards and punishments as he sees fit. Some people are elevated to positions of authority, and others (who opposed him) are sentenced to death as rebels.

Now, obviously Jesus has not returned to rule the Earth! We don't see any particular Christians being handed entire cities to rule, do we? NO. If those parts of the paragraph have not been accomplished, why should we expect to see the latter done right now?

Those who suggest that Christ wants us to kill unbelievers have their own agenda, and it isn't Christ's! When the 12 apostles wanted to call down fire from heaven and burn up some people that wouldn't believe, Jesus stopped them. Jesus said that "The Son of Man came to save men's lives, not destroy them."

We should remember that!

2007-05-22 16:39:06 · answer #2 · answered by MamaBear 6 · 5 0

first of all, the apostles have been jews. they only weren't leaders of the Jewish faith. the favored concept on the time became that the arriving of the messiah may be a grand adventure that could desire to be impossible to pass over, ensuing in an excellent new age for the individuals of Israel. So whilst Jesus confirmed up and claimed to be the son of God, many did no longer have confidence him through fact he did no longer extra healthful their expectancies. Prophecy is a 2 edged sword, this is meaning is often open to interpretation.

2016-10-31 03:50:07 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Luke 19:27 But bring those enemies of mine who didn't want me to reign over them here, and kill them before me.'"

According to Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary:

Lu 19:27
v11-27 This parable is like that of the talents, Mt 25:1-46. Those that are called to Christ, he furnishes with gifts needful for their business; and from those to whom he gives power, he expects service. The manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal, 1Co 12:7. And as every one has received the gift, so let him minister the same, 1Pe 4:10. The account required, resembles that in the parable of the talents; and the punishment of the avowed enemies of Christ, as well as of false professors, is shown. The principal difference is, that the pound given to each seems to point out the gift of the gospel, which is the same to all who hear it; but the talents, distributed more or less, seem to mean that God gives different capacities and advantages to men, by which this one gift of the gospel may be differently improved.


According to The People's New Testament Commentary:

Lu 19:27
These mine enemies. This portrays the fate, not of church members, but of those who would not have the Lord reign over them. It embraces all the impenitent. Compare Mt 13:49; 21:44; 25:30; 2Th 1:8-10.


According to Family Bible Notes:

Lu 19:27
Slay them before me; an emblem of the ruin which would come on his persevering opposers.

My take on it...yes, that is what Jesus appears to have been saying in the time at that moment. I don't think he meant for that statement to stand as something to the effect of "Kill all those who would oppose me." to stand for all time in that sense.

2007-05-22 16:42:35 · answer #4 · answered by Rollover Mikey 6 · 3 0

As most would tell you I am a studier of Christianity, but not a friend of Christianity. However, I am a friend of truth. You thought was mistaken. Beginning at 19:11 it makes clear that Jesus is speaking a parable. The parable is not completed until the full of 19:28 is read. The protagonist of the parable is whom you attack.

2007-05-22 16:41:16 · answer #5 · answered by Terry 7 · 3 0

No, that is not what it says. You make the fatal flaw of taking the literal word and you take it out of context. You are also quoting a verse of the bible couched in a quote of St. John Chrysostom, which is also out of context. And in doing this you again taking the words not as intended in the prosaic, but in the literal.

2007-05-22 16:39:10 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 4 0

>> Does the New Testament say kill all those who refuse to believe in Jesus ?
The statement from Jesus is directly related to the preceding Parable of the Talents. Jesus is describing the end times, when the Lord shall return to judge his servants, and referencing himself as that Lord.

2007-05-22 16:41:15 · answer #7 · answered by w2 6 · 4 1

The nobleman's anger (vv. 26-27) is not intended to attribute such behavior to Jesus himself. Rather, it does picture the kind of response one might have expected in Jesus' day, especially from the Herodians. It also reveals the seriousness of flouting the orders of the King whom God has appointed Judge.

2007-05-22 16:38:28 · answer #8 · answered by j.wisdom 6 · 2 1

Jesus told a parable about a noble man, who wanted to be king, who gave three months of wages to his servants, and asked them to put the money to work. I think the quote you're referring to is what the man in the aforementioned story said to his servants, who didn't want him to become king. I don't have my Bible with me, so I could be wrong, but it wasn't meant to be taken as a commandment to slaughter all non-Christians.

2007-05-22 16:38:11 · answer #9 · answered by LeilaK 2 · 1 1

Sounds like ol' John Boy had some issues to deal with.


Jesus spoke in parables, and now John wants to kill people with it?

2007-05-22 16:32:44 · answer #10 · answered by Christian Sinner 7 · 1 1

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