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I, even I, am Yahweh; and beside me there is no savior…a just God and a Savior; there is none beside me” (43:11; 45:21).

Ezekiel 18:20
The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

James2:24
Ye see then how that by works a man is just

Matthew 19:16-17
"And behold, one came up to him, saying, "Teacher, what good deed must I do, to have eternal life?"
"And he said to him, "Why do you ask me about what is good? One there is who is good. If you would enter life, keep the commandments."
Jas 2:26 "Faith without works is Dead"

2007-05-21 19:56:37 · 12 answers · asked by Punter 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

12 answers

I still can't get Psalm 32 out of my head,
"Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven,
Whose sin is covered.
Blessed is the man to whom the LORD does not impute iniquity,
And in whose spirit there is no deceit"


You all read Romans 3-4 and tell me that you can cooperate or contribute in your Justification. The beginning of chapter 4 makes an excelent point, if we work for our justification, it is a wage/debt that God owes us. If we don't work for our justification, it is a gift (grace). This is what happens when the church confuses Sanctification with Justification. It is also referred to as Pelagianism and Semi Pelagianism (ala Wesley or Finney).

Who ever quoted Ephesians 2, Thank you.

Jesus said, "You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about me," So I hardly think that the Bible slams Jesus. No John writes, "but these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name. "

2007-05-22 06:49:34 · answer #1 · answered by Martin Chemnitz 5 · 0 0

once again you are taking the text out of its context for your own purposes. That entire chapter is an explanation that faith and deeds must go hand in hand. Basically, in our faith you can't just say you have faith, but to prove it, you must live it. Not only all this, but you are quoting King James or a version based on the King James. Get a modern version and things will be a bit more clear. If you are seeking truth, than seek the whole truth, not the little tid-bits that serve your purpose only. This is not an example of a fatal flaw only a flawed mortal.

2007-05-21 20:08:50 · answer #2 · answered by christie 5 · 1 0

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

YET


Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward [is] with me, to give every man according as his WORK shall be.


YEAH
Jam 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?


Hbr 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,

2007-05-21 20:09:44 · answer #3 · answered by KITKAT 3 · 0 0

You are missing the point, taking it out of context. It is about faith working through love. Our works will show our love, our "fruits" if you will. The works will be a result of our love and faith.

"Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?" and He said to him, " 'YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.' "This is the great and foremost commandment. The second is like it," 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.' "On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets."

"For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men, instructing us to deny ungodliness and worldly desires and to live sensibly, righteously and godly in the present age, looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus, who gave Himself for us to redeem us from every lawless deed, and to purify for Himself a people for His own possession, zealous for good deeds."

"For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast."

2007-05-21 20:37:07 · answer #4 · answered by Bill Mac 7 · 0 1

I'll hand it to you. You don't give up too easy. Stick in there. Maybe in the next millenia you'll find whatever answer you try and twist scripture to give you. It's just not working in the here and now. Later.

2007-05-21 20:04:20 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Yes, our Christian Law of Faith demands works of faith for the believer to be saved.

See links
http://bythebible.page.tl/Works-%26-Faith.htm
http://bythebible.page.tl/Christian-Good-Works.htm
http://bythebible.page.tl/Once-Saved%2C-Always-Saved-f-.htm

2007-05-21 20:01:55 · answer #6 · answered by Fuzzy 7 · 0 0

Yes, there is lots of confusion about this topic in Christianity.

This topic is creating lots of divisions and new groups are splitting off all the time due to differences of doctrine.


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2007-05-21 20:07:41 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

Not me I'm ver much alive in faith and works

2007-05-21 19:59:24 · answer #8 · answered by Styme the Brave 3 · 1 0

Yup!

2007-05-21 20:02:21 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Their brains are dead. Rotten to the core.

2007-05-21 20:00:08 · answer #10 · answered by Honest christian 2 · 1 3

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